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Alstep
07-23-2020, 12:23 AM
My good old Maglite didn't work tonight, so went to change the batteries. The batteries corroded and swelled so bad and had one heck of a time getting them out. Replaced them not so long ago. Any good way to neutralize the corrosion & clean out all the gunk on the inside?
Another question, is there any conversion to LED?

HamGunner
07-23-2020, 12:45 AM
I am not sure of the best way to remove the corrosion, but there are replacement LED bulbs that last for ever and are easy on batteries. I replaced all my Maglites with the LED bulbs. They are as bright as the regular incandescent bulb and maybe a bit whiter as well.

samari46
07-23-2020, 12:46 AM
Try baking soda and warm water and a old tooth brush. Repeat as needed. For the threads on the end cap use silicone grease.The baking soda neutralizes the corrosion aka "white stuff" and the warm water helps to break it down and the tooth brush does the cleaning. This on a regular flashlite with standard carbon or lithium ion batteries but be careful not to get any water in the head as this is where the electronics are.Frank

StuBach
07-23-2020, 05:18 AM
A pencil eraser will also do well on polishing any surfaces the toothbrush won’t scrub clean. Especially useful on the terminals that connect to battery.

smithnframe
07-23-2020, 05:46 AM
The same thing happened to me about 10 years ago with a 6-cell mag lite I had. Couldn't get it out no matter what I tried. Bought my first Surefire and never looked back!

StuBach
07-23-2020, 05:55 AM
The same thing happened to me about 10 years ago with a 6-cell mag lite I had. Couldn't get it out no matter what I tried. Bought my first Surefire and never looked back!

I’ve also had great luck with the $10 knockoffs of lights like SureFire. My dad gave my wife a high end one years ago for Christmas ($120 price point from amazon) and a couple years ago I bought myself a $10 one at 7-Eleven. Only way you can tell the difference is the color of the button, all other parts and features are identical including brightness.

Hers came with a large single battery that’s expensive to replace cause it’s a weird size. Mine takes AAA in an adapter or the large oddball one my wife’s does. I stick to the adapter.

winelover
07-23-2020, 06:35 AM
Alkaline batteries went to hell in a hand basket. I won't leave them in flashlights, anymore. I've switched over to the Lithium batteries. They are more expensive but last longer and are not prone to leakage. Another thing you can do is leave the alkaline batteries out, next to the flashlight. Install, only when you're going to use it.

Winelover

Land Owner
07-23-2020, 07:48 AM
I have DOZENS of mini-Mag and 2/3/4 D-cell Maglite flashlights. Quite a few have had corroded alkaline batteries in them - most particularly DURACELL. I take the flashlights apart routinely now.

1.) Take the flashlight COMPLETELY apart.
2.) Baking soda and water as indicated above. Tooth brush too.
3.) Sandpaper (220 grit) on a dowel in a hand drill for inside the barrel. Be aggressive.
4.) Steel wool for the threads. Be aggressive.
5.) I have successfully used Rubbing Alcohol on the electronics and a toothbrush.
6.) Tread lightly using alcohol and place everything in the heat of a closed car for a day (or two) to dry completely.
7.) Vaseline on the O-rings, inside barrel, and all threads when putting parts back together.
8.) If it won't light at all, keep the components for spare parts.

GhostHawk
07-23-2020, 07:55 AM
Buy a cheap ebay knockoff that uses rechargeable 18650 battery's. They last longer, recharge in a few hours, and do not seem to ever do what the alkalines do.

I have an 8$ light with an 8$ battery mounted under my 12 ga 870. For 5 years if I push the button I have light, and lots of it.
Good enough for me. YMMV

Mal Paso
07-23-2020, 08:57 AM
Alkaline batteries are just that, alkaline. Baking Soda is also alkaline and will not neutralize an alkaline battery. Baking Soda will only neutralize an Acid Battery.

Buzz Krumhunger
07-23-2020, 11:57 AM
If the stuck batteries are Duracell brand, send the whole thing to Duracell. They’ll fix it for free, or send you a check to buy a new flashlight with.

I’ve had Duracell batteries destroy several flashlights over the last few years. Their batteries are junk nowadays. I’ve even had them leak in the package, unused.

gwpercle
07-23-2020, 12:10 PM
I have found some "brands" of batteries are more prone to corrosion than others .
In my experience I try not to leave Ray-O-Vac batteries in my lights for any extended period of time and any no-name cheap-o batteries ... all have leaked and one destroyed a good Maglite with the leaked acid .
I don't believe I have ever had a Duracell battery leak and even if they cost more I buy them .
Gary

gwpercle
07-23-2020, 12:14 PM
If the stuck batteries are Duracell brand, send the whole thing to Duracell. They’ll fix it for free, or send you a check to buy a new flashlight with.

I’ve had Duracell batteries destroy several flashlights over the last few years. Their batteries are junk nowadays. I’ve even had them leak in the package, unused.

Well ... there goes my theory on Duracell not leaking ... Just ignore post #12 !
I don't know what batteries to buy now !!!!
Gary

Alstep
07-23-2020, 01:07 PM
If the stuck batteries are Duracell brand, send the whole thing to Duracell. They’ll fix it for free, or send you a check to buy a new flashlight with.

I’ve had Duracell batteries destroy several flashlights over the last few years. Their batteries are junk nowadays. I’ve even had them leak in the package, unused.


Darn, as luck would have it, I already threw them out.
Thanks for all your replies. Might just go for a new LED light.

smithnframe
07-23-2020, 01:16 PM
I’ve also had great luck with the $10 knockoffs of lights like SureFire. My dad gave my wife a high end one years ago for Christmas ($120 price point from amazon) and a couple years ago I bought myself a $10 one at 7-Eleven. Only way you can tell the difference is the color of the button, all other parts and features are identical including brightness.

Hers came with a large single battery that’s expensive to replace cause it’s a weird size. Mine takes AAA in an adapter or the large oddball one my wife’s does. I stick to the adapter.

I'm positive the one bought at the convenience store is nowhere near Surefire quality! I have a rechargeable Surefire that after 5 years a battery would no longer hold a charge and I called Surefire and they sent me 2 no charge. I'll stick with Surefire and not mess with the Chinese made knock offs!

Der Gebirgsjager
07-23-2020, 01:16 PM
265143 These, maybe? 10 year shelf life. I've had no problems.

redneck1
07-23-2020, 01:29 PM
It won't solve all the problems , but if you use some die-electric grease on the batteries themselves along with the terminals it does a decent job of at least slowing the corrosion down if not eliminating it .

bangerjim
07-23-2020, 01:37 PM
That is why I threw all my Mag's out years ago. The tolerances are so tight in the metal tubes even the slightest swelling of even premium alkaline batteries will cause sticking. Since the goop that leaked from the batteries is alkaline, use a weak acid mabe even white vinegar to loosen the garbage and then 0 steel wool swab on a dowel. Once you can get new batteries to go in, grease them up as mentioned. and switch to LED's! Or buy CHICOM knock-offs for a few dollars and just throw them away if you forget to change the batteries. I only use CopperTop batteries. They have a published shelf-life on them.

banger

kenblacksmith
07-23-2020, 01:39 PM
I have used Windex with Ammonia to great effect in these situations, apply and use air & towel to remove.

JonB_in_Glencoe
07-23-2020, 02:01 PM
Most big-time battery manufacturers will replace your flashlight, just send it to them for replacement.
BUT, if they can't tell if it was their batteries in the flashlight, then they lightly won't replace it.

LUCKYDAWG13
07-23-2020, 05:30 PM
I keep a old mag light the 6 D battery one in my truck more for just a club but pretty much switch over to Fenix brand for EDC home and weapon's light also pick up a rechargeable headlamp

xs11jack
07-23-2020, 07:43 PM
I am like LuckyDawg13, If I got stopped by a cop all he/she will see on the back seat floor is a 5 cell maglite NOT a baseball bat.
Ole Jack

GOPHER SLAYER
07-24-2020, 02:23 PM
I have a three call Mag-Lite and left the batteries in too long. I got them out and tried cleaning the tube and contacts, no go. I went to the Mag- Lite factory which is about twenty five miles from me. They told me they could repair it for $11.00 or sell me a new one for $21. I did neither and a short while later I bought three in a yard sale for $2.00. I put batteries in them and two of them worked. I don't leave batteries anymore.

higgins
07-24-2020, 04:39 PM
Check with both Maglite and the battery manufacturer before sending a corroded Maglite to anyone. Seems like the policies change every few years.

A couple of years ago I got LED replacement bulb units for my 3-D cell maglite and the difference in brightness and distance the beam is visible is amazing. I got mine from Amazon, 30-something dollars for two conversion kits. Highly recommended, and they will work on either a 2- or 3-cell light.

trebor44
07-24-2020, 04:42 PM
Any device that use batteries is subject to corrosion. I have had batteries corrode EVEN when they were still in the package and had NEVER been used. Cheaper batteries are the worse, but name brands do corrode. My solution is when I am not going to using the device is to remove the battery or batteries and place them in a ziplock with the device. Having ruined cameras, flashlights, red dots and numerous devices, batteries are cheap and are disposable. And they can be dangerous, the chemical reaction in a battery is sufficient to cause a fire (had it happen). As for cleanup, a baking soda solution does the job and commercial products can be handy for hard to reach places where you don't want to use water.

Thunder Stick
07-24-2020, 05:25 PM
I recently salvaged a pair of Cobra handheld FRS radios. The old batteries leaked badly and the radios were a mess. White junk from the batteries was all over the battery compartment.

White vinegar to the rescue.

With paper towels, Q-tips and some white vinegar, the battery compartment and battery contacts look new. The radios fired right up. Try white vinegar to clean up after leaky carbon zinc, alkaline and NiCad batteries. The stuff works great!

akajun
07-24-2020, 07:01 PM
Early in my LEO career, we were still required to carry And buy a 3 cell mag light batteries too. The last straw was when I went to use it one night and it was dead , I put fresh batteries in it. Next night same thing, except now they were cemented in from corrosion.
Bought my first stream light rechargeable stinger and that was that. Now even cheap led lights from wal mart out perform and Outlast a mag light

Mal Paso
07-24-2020, 09:22 PM
I bought my last Maglite about 25 years ago. Back when the quality of LEDs got good I started buying Coast LED Lensers. 1" in diameter and 4 1/4" long, they run on 3 AAA batteries and fit in a regular 9mm mag pouch. They light like a full size flashlight and are small enough I always have one with me. Since it's LED it needs 1/10 the batteries.

I just had some Kirkland AAAs go bad. I'm thinking they were 6 years old and were under the seat of the truck in a 44Mag ammo box. Just lost a Fluke voltage probe to an AA. I misplaced the probe then found it too late.

Martin Luber
07-24-2020, 09:29 PM
Trouble with LEDs is they prolong battery life to the point of battery failure.

Keyword is "alkaline" so you need acid to neutralize it. Vinegar works well.

I had a $360 circuit board fail due to a battery leak. Vinegar fixed it.

DougGuy
07-24-2020, 09:54 PM
Har, Eveready sent me a check for $40 to replace 2 mini mags that their batteries destroyed, Duracell wasn't nearly as forthcoming, but they sent me a $5 gift certificate that was more of an insult than anything else so at least I got something. Like I want to go buy $15 worth of Duracells just to use their paltry $5 "gift" ya right. All that did was insure I am an Eveready customer for good now.

Bottom line = if you want to leave your maglite in a vehicle year round, store the batteries in a separate plastic bag and put them back in the bag after each use. Batteries have to vent with changes in temperature so they can't be sealed, and the extreme spread of temps is simply too much to expect to leave the batteries in the maglite full time.

dtknowles
07-24-2020, 11:01 PM
I’ve also had great luck with the $10 knockoffs of lights like SureFire. My dad gave my wife a high end one years ago for Christmas ($120 price point from amazon) and a couple years ago I bought myself a $10 one at 7-Eleven. Only way you can tell the difference is the color of the button, all other parts and features are identical including brightness.

Hers came with a large single battery that’s expensive to replace cause it’s a weird size. Mine takes AAA in an adapter or the large oddball one my wife’s does. I stick to the adapter.

The odd ball sized battery is actually a very common Li-ion cell, 18650, they are rechargeable. They are the same cells that are in laptop computers and cordless power tools. I bought a flashlight from a vendor at a gun show that like yours came with the AAA adapter, a 18650 cell and charger. I have a lot of 18650 cells and other chargers and have modified other flashlights to use them.

Tim

MT Gianni
07-26-2020, 02:38 PM
The newer led minimags have so tight a cylinder that when the batteries swell they are not coming out. The front no longer opens up completely either. Plenty of other flashlights to go with though.

brassrat
07-28-2020, 12:02 AM
I clean the junk battery messes with Evaporust. Works great and the junk just falls off. Basically use rechargeables only,now. No messes

megasupermagnum
07-28-2020, 02:04 AM
There is an awful lot of Maglite hate when it was the batteries that failed.:confused:

I'm sure like most, I've used the basic lights available from Maglite, mostly their big D cell ones and their mini mag. Thankfully times have moved on from the 1990's, and better designs, and better batteries are an option. I now use the XL50 light daily at work, and it is a fantastic light. Work provides AAA's for free, which I replace every couple weeks or so. I've had that light for 3 years now, and it is every bit as good as new except some scuffs. I'm a machine technician, working on CNC's and die cast machines, but also do quite a bit of fabricating, and other odd jobs. I've had this light at the bottom of a 100 gallon hydraulic tank on numerous occasions, as I'm trying to find a fitting that fell into the oil. I've tried a few of the top brands out there, but nothing has ever stood up to Maglite for reliability and durability. The worst was the most expensive, a Surefire that I cracked the housing on the first time I rolled over it, which is a daily occurrence for a maintenance tech.

Now if you are looking for something to have and forget, you are looking in the wrong area with a basic AAA. Try something like their mag tac, which uses a modern lithium battery. I've had one mounted on my shotgun for a couple years now. They hold up to recoil, and don't seem to degrade over time. At least they don't turn into a battery explosion like alkaline batteries can.

car16
07-29-2020, 02:24 AM
I had good luck with maglite I had 6 junk aa and AAA mini maglites I boxes them up and send them in and got 6 new ones

uscra112
07-29-2020, 04:17 AM
The same thing happened to me about 10 years ago with a 6-cell mag lite I had. Couldn't get it out no matter what I tried. Bought my first Surefire and never looked back!

DITTO! Every Maglite I've ever had succumbed to leaking alkalines, especially the bigger ones. Hundreds of $$ ruined. Except the one I converted to Li-Ions back when the only source of them was dismantling phone batteries; (remember those old "brick" cellphones?) It got stolen.

Now I'm 100% Li-Ion/LED. Wouldn't take a Maglite as a gift.

But to answer the O.P.'s question, I used sandpaper on a stick to clean corrosion out of Maglites before I gave up on them.

Land Owner
07-29-2020, 05:57 AM
After inheriting an estate I have more than a dozen mini-Mag lights and a number of them had corroded batteries. I cleaned, sanded, and lubricated them all (with Vaseline). I have had only two that wouldn't light again. No matter what I try, they fail. I kept their useful remnant parts for spares (idk why).

Batteries, especially alkaline, have not significantly improved over time. I am not saying manufacturer's aren't trying for substantial alkaline improvements, but in the meantime they're raking in profits. Batteries remain problematic and are infused into everything used in a daily life.

"Chip" batteries are in computers, watches, Tablets, cell phones, hearing aids, blood pressure monitors (AA and AAA), and FIL's new pace maker, (sheesh, I am getting "up there" in age too). Thinking around the house, there are batteries in the wife's rechargeable tooth brush, shaver, alarm clocks, smoke detectors, mp3 player, hand held calculators, weather monitors, gun safe combination keypad, chronograph, lasers, range finder, trail cameras, hand held cameras, digital security cameras, each automobile and truck, and both blister pack and stockpiles of replacements.

fcvan
07-29-2020, 06:26 AM
I only had one battery failure take out a Mini-Mag. I tried, but I just couldn't get it cleared and functional again. I already had several others, each fitted with a tail piece button and LED bulbs. I carried one on my duty belt, had one in each car, and in the saddle bags of the MC. I started out carrying the 2 cell D Mag-Lite on my belt before the Mini-Mag came out, but stopped carrying the big light after I promoted to sergeant. I did keep it with my lunchbox and other gear. A couple of years later, I made lieutenant and stopped dragging it to work but had it in my car.

Before I retired, I joined our version of 'SWAT' and switched lights. I made a belt clip that used a picatinny rail and mounted a better flashlight in a holder that was designed for a rail on either the carbine or the pistol. I could use the light as a flashlight or as a weapon lighting system, with a much longer battery life than typical weapon lights. Between LED bulbs, and modern rechargeable batteries I could go all month without recharging but generally charged each week. I still love the Mag-Lite products I own, they just stopped being my duty light, and became my tool box lights.

Idaho45guy
07-29-2020, 07:05 AM
If the stuck batteries are Duracell brand, send the whole thing to Duracell. They’ll fix it for free, or send you a check to buy a new flashlight with.

I’ve had Duracell batteries destroy several flashlights over the last few years. Their batteries are junk nowadays. I’ve even had them leak in the package, unused.

Yep. I no longer buy Duracell after having a set destroy a D-cell Maglite. I've also experienced them ruining other various electronic devices they are left in for about a year. Even in a low humidity environment, they will start to leak. I buy only Eveready now.

As for flashlights, I have had good luck with the Surefire G2 I mounted on my hiking carbine. In my SUV, I have a cheap Chinese rechargeable light that has worked the last couple of times I've used it. Before it, I bought another cheap Chinese light that lasted a few months then started having issues. The current one has gone a year and been used a few times and is holding up. If I were a rich man, I would have Surefire lights everywhere.

The light on my kitchen counter used for investigating bumps in the night is a 3-cell Maglite with the LED bulb and a green body and black head since it is a conglomerate from the ruined Maglite and a non LED light.

Ironically, the tiny pocket light with the S&W M&P logo on it that my brother gave me for Christmas last year throws out nearly as much light.

265421

Thunder Stick
07-29-2020, 10:06 AM
Duracell are the worst batteries I've ever experienced. Below are two reasons why. Leakage and reversed polarity.

https://i.imgur.com/SrhZdqr.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/F9ymULb.jpg