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Wm Cook
07-01-2020, 11:54 PM
Has anyone worked up loads for the Ruger PC 9mm? One in 10 twist with a 16” barrel.

If you could share your thoughts or experiences with 9mm carbines I’d appreciate it.

Thanks, Bill Cook.

AnthonyB
07-02-2020, 02:14 AM
Bill:
No load work up with mine; I have been to busy shooting it! I brought it home and killed three turtles in my pond straight out of the box. It has eaten everything I fed it, and only a M92 in 357 is more fun. I have multiple 9mm pistols, and some of them won’t tolerate ammo the others will. The PC Carbine is getting all the old ammo while I work to develop one load that will work in all.
Tony

dale2242
07-02-2020, 06:58 AM
3.6 gr 700X with 120gr Lee TC bullet worked fine in my grandsons gun with a quick 5 round rapid fire test.
Bullet cast from lino with 50/50 lube.
I have just cast some from #2.
I will post when we get more results.

jdgabbard
07-02-2020, 09:28 AM
I haven’t loaded for mine. Mostly just shoot ball out of it. But I’d like to hear what works for you.


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Froogal
07-02-2020, 09:50 AM
I do not yet have one of those P.C. Carbines, but my local FFL has a bunch of them on order, and my name is on the list.

Cosmic_Charlie
07-02-2020, 10:01 AM
Bill:
No load work up with mine; I have been to busy shooting it! I brought it home and killed three turtles in my pond straight out of the box. It has eaten everything I fed it, and only a M92 in 357 is more fun. I have multiple 9mm pistols, and some of them won’t tolerate ammo the others will. The PC Carbine is getting all the old ammo while I work to develop one load that will work in all.
Tony

In respect to ammo that didn't do well in my pistol, my FM9 carbine eats everything too.

Cosmic_Charlie
07-02-2020, 10:04 AM
Has anyone worked up loads for the Ruger PC 9mm? One in 10 twist with a 16” barrel.

If you could share your thoughts or experiences with 9mm carbines I’d appreciate it.

Thanks, Bill Cook.

Try a slower powder like AA7 if you want to get the most velocity out of that barrel.

Russel A
07-02-2020, 10:09 AM
My daughter shoots Steel Comp with her FM9. It also eats anything.
Currently munching on 115 grain RN. 3.9 grains TightGroup.

Panman213
07-02-2020, 10:11 AM
I use 4.2 gr HP38 in front of a Lee 120TC powder coated. Kind of a light load but it functions good.

Mytmousemalibu
07-02-2020, 10:44 AM
I have Ruger PC Carbine, great little rifle!
I got it because i wanted a nice little PCC and also to have a little fun in USPSA PCC division, mostly just because it was a cool gun. The big selling point was the ability to use Glock mags, very good move by Ruger. The takedown is pretty cool too, makes it easy to pack.

I use my standard USPSA 9mm minor power factor load in it and it shoots great! Accurate enough and super soft.
Its a 135gr. TC coated Blue Bullet, 4.6gr of Vectan Ba9 or the 124gr/125gr version with 4.8gr. Thats what it takes to make minor from a 5" pistol at about 1300fps. Very nice pistol load but also a treat in the Ruger PC. The Vectan Ba9 is very close to Vhitavouri N320 as its almost a clone but a little faster whereas Ba9.5 is almost a dead match. Great powder if you can get it, very affordable and clean burning. Its sold by the LB but they are 1.10lb cans so on top of the affordable price, you get .10lb for "free".

My PC has some nice speed parts from Taccom and MCarbo. Magwell funnel, compensator, oversized mag button, Holosun 510C cheek pad, solid recoil pad, oversized charge handle, (not shown) MCarbo trigger, bolt pins and recoil spring & buffer. Taccom rear sight pic rail & dot relocated to rear sight location, fire control springs) I also did some fire control work, smoothing/polishing and recut the sear, the trigger is much better!

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Burnt Fingers
07-02-2020, 01:56 PM
I've had my Ruger for a couple of years now. It eats everything!

Right now I'm mostly feeding it the MP 358-125 RNFP over 4 gr WST. https://www.mp-molds.com/product/357-359-125-flat-round-nose-flat-base-8-cavity-aluminum-no-lube-groove-mold/

This load shoots into one hole at 25 yards as long as I do my part. My shooting buddy and I sized 67 lbs of those bullets yesterday. That should get us through the summer! I've probably got 2500 of these loaded and in the range truck right now.

Another favorite load is the NOE ELCO over 2.8 gr Ramshot Competition. This one is stupid accurate in both my Ruger PCC and the pair of PSA 9mm AR pistols my buddy and I shoot.

dverna
07-02-2020, 02:09 PM
Blue Dot should do well in a carbine. Some interesting stuff on the net. Some loads looked very hot to me. Close to .357 Mag performance. Not a good powder for pistol use.

I was going to work up loads for a Sub2000 and bought a pound but wound up selling the gun.

JMax
07-02-2020, 04:06 PM
4 gr TiteGroup with a powder coat Lee 120 TC, I pick clay pigeons and pieces at 100 yards, I use a 3X scope.

kenton
07-03-2020, 08:18 AM
If ammo prices ever come back down and you're lazy like me; At 50 yards mine shoots Wolf steel case into a 2"-3" ten shot groups with a couple flyers pulling it out to 5"ish. Tula steel case shoots 4"-5" groups with flyers pulling out to 7"-8".

Hogtamer
07-03-2020, 09:22 AM
I load Casting Machine's (vendor sponsor in swap and sell) 122 gr fp coated boolits sized .356 in mine over 6.5 gr HS-6. Best load I have found and works great out of mag swapping Ruger SR 9 pistol.

autopilotmp
07-03-2020, 11:37 PM
I'm shooting an fx9 16" PCC in USPSA. I have been using the same charge as my pistol loads but my PCC likes a really long OAL (read barely fits in mag). I really like the lyman 358242 (mine weighs in at 130gn) pc-coww loaded w/ one lube groove exposed. loaded over initialy 4.2gn unique (@1180fps) and recently 3.2gn titegroup (@1080fps), haven't decided which one I like better recoil impulse wise but loaded up a bunch for this Sunday's match. Both group well at 25yds, cycle the action, and meet minor power factor.

WinchesterM1
07-04-2020, 07:32 AM
I’ve had my PC9 since before they were released to the public (perks of being in the gun magazine business). I use the MP 59-130 rf designed for PC over 3.8 of bullseye. I have shoot this round for years and years out of my PC9 (over 200k so far) and it does excellent! I even killed a deer with it out of my PC9 a couple of years ago. She was around 35 yards away looking at me so I put one right through the neck. Needless to say she dropped

Wm Cook
07-04-2020, 01:02 PM
Well those were sounding indorsements for the Ruger PC 9. Recommendations included over 8 powders and 7 different bullets. Powder included 700X, TightGroup (3), HP38, Vectan Ba9 (VV 320), Ramshot, HS-6, Unique and Bullseye.

So all I need to do now is sort out what's required to trim it out with sights, cheek piece, optics, mag release, magazine capacities, etc.

I have a 10 meter range in my shop and no neighbors withing 200 yards. The indoor range brings me a lot closer to my loading bench as I work up loads. Even at 10 meters I can get a feel whether the load will shoot 5 MOA or a 1 MOA. I think a supressor will make the first cut as well. I think there is a rail under the muzzle so I think there's probable a bipod out there somewhere.

This could turn into a long term relationship. A firearm that can perform in competition as well as being a real hoot to shoot for both young and old. And crazy cheap to shoot.

Burnt Fingers
07-05-2020, 12:33 PM
I have the M*Carbo shock buffer, their extractor and their tool steel pin set in mine. The extractor is MUCH better than the factory unit. The factory extractor in mine gave up the ghost after a couple thousand rounds.

I have the Tandemkross charging handle, Taccom rear optic sight mount, it replaces the rear sight with a rail. My optic mounted on the receiver didn't always return to zero when assembling the carbine.

I have a copy of the Noveske Flaming Pig muzzle device on it.

I have a Volquartsen trigger pack. I picked up a blem on eBay for half price!

All in all I love the setup. I'd like to get one of the forearm replacement rails that covers the barrel. But they are in short supply right now.

WebMonkey
07-05-2020, 02:23 PM
Has anyone worked up loads for the Ruger PC 9mm? One in 10 twist with a 16” barrel.

If you could share your thoughts or experiences with 9mm carbines I’d appreciate it.

Thanks, Bill Cook.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?369617-New-Ruger-PC-Carbine-with-some-test-data

this was my post about my ruger pistol caliber carbine.

Wm Cook
07-05-2020, 06:51 PM
So here is where we stand with the recommended accessories for the Ruger PCC.

Mcarbo
- Mcarbo Ruger PC Carbine Shock Buffer = $20
https://www.mcarbo.com/ruger-pc-carbine-shock-buffer.aspx
- Ruger PC Carbine Exact Edge Extractor =$30
https://www.mcarbo.com/ruger-pc-carbine-exact-edge-extractor.aspx
- Ruger PC Carbine A2 Tool Steel Bolt Head Pin and Extractor Pin Kit = $17
https://www.mcarbo.com/ruger-pc-carbine-a2-tool-steel-bolt-head-pins-extractor-pin-kit.aspx
- McCarbo Ruger PC Carbine Extended Charging Handle = $20
https://www.mcarbo.com/ruger-pc-carbine-extended-charging-handle.aspx
- Tandemkross Challenger charging handle = $19.95
( Unable to get the link for this but it has a pronounced charging handle shaped like your finger.
- Ruger PC Carbine Extended Magazine Release =$30
https://www.mcarbo.com/ruger-pc-carbine-extended-magazine-release.aspx
- Ruger PC Carbine Recoil Pad/Neoprene adhesive Cheek Piece = $13
https://www.mcarbo.com/ruger-pc-carbine-recoil-pad-neoprene-adhesive-cheek-pad.aspx

Taccom
- Barrel rail mount from Taccom +$20 https://taccom3g.com/product/ruger-pc-carbine-rear-optic-sight-mount/

Volquartsen
- TG9 Trigger Assembly for Ruger PC Carbine. $273. https://volquartsen.com/departments/ruger-pc-carbine/inventory_configurations/1735

Could anyone recommend Red Dot Optics for this setup? Thanks for all of the help. Bill.

fcvan
07-05-2020, 07:52 PM
I don't have the Ruger, but I do have a Marlin Camp 9 and an AR 15 in 9mm I built. The Lee 356-125 2R over 5 grains of Unique has been my go to load for 35 years. In recent years I started powder coating every thing, but my lubed lead loads never gave me any troubles. My mold drops ant .358 and that is what I size to. 4" pistol goes 1100 fps, 10" AR 15 pistol goes 1325, 16" carbine goes 1350. It kills tin cans

sghart3578
07-06-2020, 06:06 PM
I like the Lee 358-125-RF sized to .358" loaded over 5.6 gr of A #5.

Wm Cook
07-06-2020, 08:36 PM
Has anyone shot anything over 140 grain. Not sure what mold looks like this but Laser Cast has a 147 grain FP (https://oregontrailbullets.com/xcart/?target=product&product_id=86) that might make a good self defense / survival option.

Maybe you might have a mold in mind that would replicate this? Thanks again, Bill.

shell70634
07-06-2020, 11:18 PM
I shoot 147 gr round nose over 3 gr AA N100 thru my Ruger PC with a can. Works great. Fun load. Consistently rings the 6 inch plate at 100.

36Power
07-07-2020, 09:32 AM
So here is where we stand with the recommended accessories for the Ruger PCC.

Mcarbo
- Mcarbo Ruger PC Carbine Shock Buffer = $20
https://www.mcarbo.com/ruger-pc-carbine-shock-buffer.aspx
- Ruger PC Carbine Exact Edge Extractor =$30
https://www.mcarbo.com/ruger-pc-carbine-exact-edge-extractor.aspx
- Ruger PC Carbine A2 Tool Steel Bolt Head Pin and Extractor Pin Kit = $17
https://www.mcarbo.com/ruger-pc-carbine-a2-tool-steel-bolt-head-pins-extractor-pin-kit.aspx
- McCarbo Ruger PC Carbine Extended Charging Handle = $20
https://www.mcarbo.com/ruger-pc-carbine-extended-charging-handle.aspx
- Tandemkross Challenger charging handle = $19.95
( Unable to get the link for this but it has a pronounced charging handle shaped like your finger.
- Ruger PC Carbine Extended Magazine Release =$30
https://www.mcarbo.com/ruger-pc-carbine-extended-magazine-release.aspx
- Ruger PC Carbine Recoil Pad/Neoprene adhesive Cheek Piece = $13
https://www.mcarbo.com/ruger-pc-carbine-recoil-pad-neoprene-adhesive-cheek-pad.aspx

Taccom
- Barrel rail mount from Taccom +$20 https://taccom3g.com/product/ruger-pc-carbine-rear-optic-sight-mount/

Volquartsen
- TG9 Trigger Assembly for Ruger PC Carbine. $273. https://volquartsen.com/departments/ruger-pc-carbine/inventory_configurations/1735

Could anyone recommend Red Dot Optics for this setup? Thanks for all of the help. Bill.

Love my PC9. One of the funnest guns I have to shoot aside from my brass receiver Henry .22 lever action.

It's not the most accurate gun at distance, but inside 50 yrds, it's awesome. I don't think you'll ever coax tack-driver accuracy out of it so go easy on spending a buncha money on accessories. A decent optic is a good idea, maybe some extra magazines(?)

Mine likes to eat hot loads. I drive them over 1100 fps in my carbine. I powder coat a basic 115 gr smooth sided RNFB cast bullet and load it over 6.5-6.7 gr VV 3n37.

Burnt Fingers
07-07-2020, 10:27 AM
Has anyone shot anything over 140 grain. Not sure what mold looks like this but Laser Cast has a 147 grain FP (https://oregontrailbullets.com/xcart/?target=product&product_id=86) that might make a good self defense / survival option.

Maybe you might have a mold in mind that would replicate this? Thanks again, Bill.

I shot the NOE ELCO out of mine. That's 155 gr.

I have 147 gr MP molds in both FP and RN but I don't load them at this time.