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mickbr
06-14-2020, 11:08 AM
fellas on a 1873 uberti 44 mag (which I will probably run just at 44-40 power levels), just wondering if there are some sighting options a little easier than standard factory sights? My astigmatisms caught up with me in the right eye and I just dont do well with standard open sights anymore.I dont hunt long ranges but getting onto medium game and targets at 80-90 yards would be nice. Someone suggested a 'marble tang sight' in the store, or a 'williams reciever peep'. Failing that I will find a way to mount a red dot like I did to a 357 rossi, but I am trying not to committ sacrilege just yet. Thanks for any opinions of the sights mentioned above or other suggestions.

Outpost75
06-14-2020, 12:39 PM
When I was in your situation ten years ago, before cataract surgery, I got best results with an XS ghost ring peep with the XS Express Rifle bead shown below.

Not a "precision" sight for group shooting, but absolutely great for fast shooting in the woods and for ringing steel. If you don't care for a tang sight, Marbles has what they call a "Bullseye" forward-mounted peep in both "short" and "long" tang versions on a dovetail base which uses the existing barrel cut: https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/sights/rear-sights/rifle-short-bullseye-rear-sight-prod27265.aspx. That combined with the big Express Rifle bead is a viable option.

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In my .44 Magnum rifles and revolvers, like you, I also load to .44-40 levels. Accurate 43-206H with 7 grains of Bullseye is quite adequate. Getting 1000 rounds for a pound of powder has a nice "ring" to it.

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Ozark mike
06-14-2020, 02:28 PM
Im not a fan of scopes but in your case a low power glass might be what the dr ordered

pietro
06-14-2020, 03:39 PM
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In keeping with the K.I.S.S. principle, I would suggest a Williams Gun Sight Co Firesight set (Front & rear) for Marlin & Winchester leverguns.

https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/sights/sight-sets/marlin-dovetail-fire-sight-set-prod26035.aspx


https://cdn-fsly.yottaa.net/53ff2f503c881650e20004c9/www.brownells.com/v~4b.10e/userdocs/products/p_962602170_1.jpg?yocs=p_


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frogleg
06-14-2020, 04:33 PM
263584

I have used these with good success .

indian joe
06-14-2020, 06:48 PM
If you are a bit handy in the workshop and dont have spare cash ........find a set of old sights off a junker someplace ---replace the blade of the front sight with something thick - ridiculously thick! if the uberti has a 24inch barrel go to maybe 1/8 inch - then cut a wide square notch in the rear to suit -- you might be surprised what you can do with old eyes if you can actually SEE the sights. I have done this with my muzzleloaders for competition - wound the clock back about 15 years I reckon - and if I was burning as much powder as I did then ........results would be as good.

Winger Ed.
06-14-2020, 06:51 PM
No matter what your vision is-- I'm another fan of fire sights.

LtFrankDrebbin
06-14-2020, 07:26 PM
If you are a bit handy in the workshop and dont have spare cash ........find a set of old sights off a junker someplace ---replace the blade of the front sight with something thick - ridiculously thick! if the uberti has a 24inch barrel go to maybe 1/8 inch - then cut a wide square notch in the rear to suit -- you might be surprised what you can do with old eyes if you can actually SEE the sights. I have done this with my muzzleloaders for competition - wound the clock back about 15 years I reckon - and if I was burning as much powder as I did then ........results would be as good.

I can agree to this. I've been through the whole saga of tang, receiver, red dot on my 92 Winchester. Ended up with a thick front post, got a Marbles rear leaf and took to the U notch with a jewellers file. Suddenly I can shoot groups again :razz:

Bazoo
06-14-2020, 08:36 PM
Being in my mid thirties my eyesight is still pretty crisp. However I've found I do much better if my sights are plain black. I prefer square top rear and square front sights, but bead sights will do okay if the rear sight is all black. I have a marbles semibuckhorn on my winchester 94 carbine and I reversed the diamond insert so it was black. Much improvement for me. I've yet to do anything to the front sight but I'm satisfied at present.

Wheelguns 1961
06-14-2020, 09:54 PM
Being in my mid thirties my eyesight is still pretty crisp. However I've found I do much better if my sights are plain black. I prefer square top rear and square front sights, but bead sights will do okay if the rear sight is all black. I have a marbles semibuckhorn on my winchester 94 carbine and I reversed the diamond insert so it was black. Much improvement for me. I've yet to do anything to the front sight but I'm satisfied at present.

I am 59 and my eyesight is not like it once was, but I also prefer all black sights with square notches. I usually put peep sights on my lever guns, but I think my biggest problem with the buckhorn sights is that whie diamond. Maybe I will have to blacken one out and revisit it.

prs
06-14-2020, 10:08 PM
I am very farsighted and now presbyopic too. I do quite will Skinner's ghost ring peep sights on my Marlin '94.

http://www.skinnersights.com/1894_marlin_33.html

prs

GhostHawk
06-15-2020, 07:33 AM
Me and open sights have had a love hate relaitionship for most of the last 25 years.

Prior to that I was the iron sights for .22lr poster child. But times change.

Old eyes LOVE Red Dot sights, although they may not be as accurate as a scope at punching paper.
But they are quick to get onto the target and easy to use.

My personal favorite looks more like a small scope.
It is the trueglo 2x Red Dot. So its like a 2 power fixed scope with a lighted dot. 2.5 MOA. So at 100 yards that dot is covering essentially the whole deers heart. But if you put that round in there, it is going to go down.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000OICEUM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Prices are back up, They started in this range some 5 years ago, slowly dropped to the low 50's, and now are back up high again.
Still worth a look.

Castaway
06-15-2020, 08:14 AM
I’m a big fan of Marble tang sights. Not only are they elevation adjustable, but also windage too. An aperture puts rear sight, front sight and target in one plane for a clear sight picture. The extra sight radius plus the inherent ease of sighting an aperture allows for quick and accurate shooting. If you can’t look down the barrel of a buddy’s rifle, make a small hole about the size of a the tip of a ball point pen in a piece of paper. Place card with hole an inch behind your hammer and try to focus on your front sight and a target beyond. My eyes are 67 years old and I can clearly see to target shoot and hunt with a tang sight.

415m3
06-15-2020, 10:35 AM
I also have astigmatism and red dots look like red jellybeans. I like the Skinner peep on my R92

mickbr
06-15-2020, 11:34 AM
lol yes a red dot looks like a jagged L shape to me but I can tell which part is the centre.

pietro
06-16-2020, 03:21 PM
lol yes a red dot looks like a jagged L shape to me but I can tell which part is the centre.


FYI, fiber-optic sights are available in several different colors (and dot sizes) by various manufacturers for folks with different color perceptions.

I have FO sights in red, amber, green & yellow & with both "fine" (1/16") and coarse (3/32") from different makers like Tru-Glo, Hi-Viz, Williams, Marbles, T/C & others.


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GregLaROCHE
06-16-2020, 04:44 PM
I have an astigmatism and had a pair of glasses made that corrected it, but not as much as normal. Far away isn’t as crisp, but the sights are easier to see.
My Williams peep sight has served me well for thirty five years. Also peep sights on other guns. There is the phenomenon of the diopter effect with a peep sight, that is amazing. However, the opening has to be 1mm or smaller to achieve the true diopter effect.

dverna
06-16-2020, 04:56 PM
Same issue. I put a tang sight on both an 1873 clone and a Marlin 1894. For CAS I remove the aperture and make it into a ghost sight...very quick to use. For more accurate work, put the aperture back in.

salvadore
06-20-2020, 10:16 AM
I put the bullseye sight, mentioned.above, a month or two ago on an Uberti '73 .45 Colt. Works for me, but I need a taller front sight. 70 year old eyes.

Geezer in NH
06-23-2020, 07:46 PM
Receiver sight such as a Williams or Lyman and a Williams fire sight front.

This has saved me for the last 20+ years.

doulos
06-29-2020, 06:54 PM
263584

I have used these with good success .

Ive used those on a Henry BBS. They work well? I like it that its mounted farther down the barrel than a peep on the receiver. It helped me because my glasses are for distance causing a close up peep to blur out. You have to have the right height front sight.

prs
06-30-2020, 11:39 AM
When I was in your situation ten years ago, before cataract surgery, I got best results with an XS ghost ring peep with the XS Express Rifle bead shown below.

Not a "precision" sight for group shooting, but absolutely great for fast shooting in the woods and for ringing steel. If you don't care for a tang sight, Marbles has what they call a "Bullseye" forward-mounted peep in both "short" and "long" tang versions on a dovetail base which uses the existing barrel cut: https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/sights/rear-sights/rifle-short-bullseye-rear-sight-prod27265.aspx. That combined with the big Express Rifle bead is a viable option.

263573

In my .44 Magnum rifles and revolvers, like you, I also load to .44-40 levels. Accurate 43-206H with 7 grains of Bullseye is quite adequate. Getting 1000 rounds for a pound of powder has a nice "ring" to it.

263574


263584

I have used these with good success .

Outpost75 and frogleg; I just installed the nice big white dot sight up front and the Bullseye long sight at the rear. Have not shot it yet. The front sight is definitly a HUGE improvement over the tiny brass dot that came on the 24" 1892 rifle. I could even get by with the original buckhorn sights with that big white dot. The Bullseye sight is kind of strange where the inner aperture sort of fades as my eye gains focus on the front dot. Looks good.

Thanks to both of you for posting the pics!

prs

jimb16
06-30-2020, 05:13 PM
I'm 71. I'm astigmatic and wear trifocals. I went with a Marble's tang sight and couldn't be happier. It really improved my shooting.

bigted
07-02-2020, 05:51 AM
Another option is Marbles FULL BUCKHORN. I find that removal of the tiny plate in the bottom of this sight gives a nice round bottom peep looking sight that when relaxed and not over trying ... gives me an accurate and easy to use BIG peep barrel mounted sight. Looks very cool as well. I ust the full curl where the "horns" come together as a longer range sighting settup.

I also have that bullseye sight but to be honest ... I like that traditional looking and acting FULL BUCKHORN.

Norske
07-02-2020, 12:27 PM
I'm so old I have variable bifocal glasses. I tried a rear aperture, but saw 1 1/2 apertures. My 45-70 now has a 1-4X heavy crosshair scope in an old Weaver pivot mount and the front sight is a Tijicon tritium dot. The rear leaf has been milled to make it an express v.

Walks
07-02-2020, 01:01 PM
I'm with bigted.
33yrs ago I put a 3/32" Brass bead and a Marble's Full Buckhorn on My Win 94 - .44Mag For Cowboy Shooting. I was 33yrs old then.
Ya, use the rear sight like a peep, just focus on the big Brass front sight.
I switched to a Uberti '73 - 24" in .44-40 a year later, same sight setup. I have setup all My pistol caliber Cowboy Rifles the same way ever since.
I was able to keep 10 shots in a 4" group at 50yrds on a 12 steel plate in under 7 seconds. And I was considered SLOW. That's minute of bunny.
My Cowboy Rifle caliber Levers all have Tang sights and 1/8" Brass bead front sights.
My other levers all have receiver peeps and 1/8" brass or "ivory" fronts.

samari46
07-04-2020, 01:44 AM
Maybe I'm the odd man out. My problem is the iron sights either as issued or after market. Have problems with them all in one form or another. I used an Lyman 10x All American perma center with adjustable objective for sight in and working up handloads. Bought this scope some years back and has done its job on at least 4 lever actioned rifles. While some folks will say optics don't look right I say you cannot hit them if you can't see them. Frank

mickbr
07-04-2020, 02:36 AM
Yes Im swinging back to scope or red dot options again myself.