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Mal Paso
05-23-2020, 11:54 PM
The only public range (county) never reliable before the virus has been totally closed for two months now. With the help of some forum members down in the airgun section I opened my own range today. It's 27 yards but I can weedwack a few more. The Bench is my old Beartracker that melted in the fire but wouldn't quit running. It's also transportation to and from the range. A piece if 1 1/8 subfloor is bungied to the rack for a shooting platform covered by a recycled plastic blanket. The rifle is a RWS 48 from Midway that I've not put 100 rounds through yet. It's rated at 900 fps and pellets go right through 3/4 plywood. I was shooting 14g pellets and tried 16g which seem more accurate. There weren't many different pellets available but I got some of each of the 4 available. There is no load development, only one power level so it's finding the right boolit. I shot until the mosquitoes drove me in. DEET next time. I musta blown through $2 worth of ammo today. LOL

David2011
05-24-2020, 03:51 AM
Welcome back to a little fun!

abunaitoo
05-24-2020, 04:29 AM
Wish we could do that here.
We have no place to shoot since the gooberment closed the range
Only public range on island.

kevin c
05-24-2020, 05:08 AM
Are the guys in Maui still shooting? Island hopping for matches or practice isn't really an option I guess.

tominboise
05-24-2020, 09:58 AM
Air rifles rock - a great adjunct to powder burners. I have a range in my basement and have shot thousands of pellets into a homemade trap down there. Only thing that kept me in the game for years when I couldn't sneak out to shoot much.

WHITETAIL
05-24-2020, 10:40 AM
:coffeecomRemember when that nut was in the white house.
You could not beg borrow or steal any ammo.
So I went on line and got a Gamo 22 cal. pellet
rifle. and made a range in the basement.
That keep me sane ( ha ha ) for the rest of his term.
Air guns are great, and can save a rainy day.

Larry Gibson
05-24-2020, 10:42 AM
I've a M54 which is basically a M48 with a recoiless feature. With the 14.3 gr pellets you'll get 800 fps +/- right at 20 ftlb +/-

I've found the Crosman Premier domed to be excellent pellets and I use them almost exclusively. Given the twist of the barrel they are very accurate out to 90 yards. There are more expensive Field Target or Match grade pellets but the CPs work well for me. If I weight sort them to 1/2 of a tenth grain (balance beam scale) accuracy improves a bit, especially at longer ranges past 30 yards. For the majority of my shooting just "out of the tin" works for me. The Match WCs are very accurate but only at short ranges as they're made just for 10m shooting. Other tricky pointed pellets never shot as well as the domed either. Also for vermin elimination and even hunting snowshoe rabbits and squirrels for eating the domed pellets worked best all around. Back some years there was a pellet called the "Lamprey". It was super deadly at 30 yards or under as it was a gaping HP but it hasn't been available for some time.

With my M54 22 cal I've killed a lot of rats, squirrels, rabbits, starlings and crows. I also shot a bit of Field target matches with it as it was that accurate.

A USE FOR RATS

By Larry M. Gibson

Was it the cold bleak gray light of the short winter day through its somber mood that had defused my sense of alertness? Perhaps it was the mesmerizing stories, which had my mind, if not my soul, in a far distant land and time. My mind was adrift in Africa walking the banks of the Tana River with Meinertzhagan some 97 years ago. Closing Volume VIII, “Hunting in Kenya”, I contemplated whether my recent sigh was one of disgust at being born a century too late or merely because my coffee cup was empty. With that lingering thought another plaintive sigh brought me to my feet and had me headed for the coffeepot. I could have inquired of my good and lovely wife, Kathleen, for a refill but I have long been conditioned that such a request may invoke a dreaded “honey do”!

Therefore, I advanced stealthily upon the “Mr. Coffee”. However, as always, an instinctive habit took over and I glanced out at the “bait” tree. It had been two weeks now since any rats had been to the bait. The squirrels would usually make a daily visit to their feeder, though usually on these cold wintry mornings they came later in the day. The blustery, still dark shadows of that cold March mid-morning lent a camouflage screen to the squirrel perched on the ledge of the feeder. As I reached for the coffeepot the thought struck like a Tyson right cross up along the side of my head! That “squirrels” tail was not bushy! Two short steps brought me back to the edge of the sliding doors with a quick peek confirming the rat was still there. Or at least I was thinking it was more rat than squirrel.

Now why is it Murphy’s full time job to just follow me! There I was on one side of the sliding doors and, of course, the binoculars were on the other side sitting on the end table. Dropping down low I began the long painful low crawl to the other side. My years of such experience in the Army were indeed paying off, until that is, my wife walked in! With both hands on her hips I got that tongue “clucking” sound that only a wife, with a disdainful point of view, can make. “Another rat?” she inquired. It’s time I move quickly so I grab the ‘nocs and tell her to get away from the doors, she’ll spook the rat. Now I ask, is my wife any different than yours? Does she silently step away as her great white hunter, her PH for life, her Bwana says to? No, of course she does not! She steps right up to the full length sliding door and gives it the classic outstretched hand over the eyebrow, “Umm, Tonto see-um” look!

“That looks like a squirrel to me” she says matter of factly. A quick glance with the ‘nocs confirmed to me it was a rat, and a damned big one at that! I hand the ‘nocs to her and head upstairs to my “hide”. “You just make sure that’s not a squirrel, it still looks like one to me” she yells over her shoulder. Fortunately for me I was halfway up the stairs and moving fast when I said, “You don’t have your glasses on”! I would have probably been “’noc’d” upside the head had it not been for my lightening speed! Slipping into the bedroom I could later claim I didn’t hear her next remark. I picked up the R9, pulled the scope cover off and stepping into my “hide” cocked the rifle. I leave a .20 cal Crow Magnum pellet in the breach with the rifle uncocked. The 4X Simmons is already pre-focused on the “bait” so cocking the rifle is all that’s necessary.




Standing in the tub the pungent fragrance of many candles, incense, and whatever other smelly stuff I get her assails my senses, wafting me off to far away exotic lands. Something to be said for “atmosphere”. Fortunately, my wife was not taking one of her “relaxing” baths. I’ve often pondered the consequence of us having a meeting engagement in her tub, my hide, should I spot a rat. It could get “distracting”, but alas, this was not the time to find out. I slowly slid the window open about three inches to the left. The rat seemed not to notice. It was intently devouring the very spendy “squirrel mix” Kathleen buys at the trendy pet shop in the “snobbish” part of town. I could get six times as much for the money at the local feed and seed but then, it just “isn’t the same”. So OK, the squirrels might eat expensive grits, but I’ll be damned if the rats will.

I pushed the R9’s barrel out the window taking a nice rest with the back of my left hand on the windowsill. The crosshairs are settling as my right thumb slides the safety off. Shallow breathing now as the first stage is taken up on the trigger. Be careful, the second stage breaks clean at two pounds. A precise aiming spot is picked on the close shoulder, which will allow the pellet to drive down through the shoulder, through the heart/lungs and low out through the offside shoulder. The crosshairs lock on that spot as my breathing is checked and the final pressure applied to the trigger.

At the shot the rat crumples then tenses. I have seen the shot hit and some feed is blasted away on the offside. The shot was precisely as expected, but long experience tells me to reload very quickly for this one is not finished. Cocking the R9 another Crow Mag is thumb pushed hard into the breach, no time to use the seater and the barrel is closed. The rat seemed to be mortally wounded but begins to thrash violently and falls the five feet to the ground. It is recovering quickly and has gotten its legs under itself. The legs then begin doing what legs do, move it! I do not want the rat to get into the dense brush, mere inches away, because once there, it may be difficult to “sort things out”. I try for a headshot but there’s too much movement. I quickly shift the crosshairs to the front shoulders again and fire. That finishes it, the movement stops the rat collapses and is dead where it lies. Kathleen is duly impressed; she forgives my transgressions regarding her vision and pours me a cup of hot coffee!

And thus, it turns out, on this Twelfth Day of March in this year 2000, rat #35 has succumbed to the .20 cal R9 with Crow Magnum pellets. This is the third rat killed so far with the R9, the other 32 having been killed with a .22 cal RWS M54 with Crosman Premiers. Since rat #31 I have only been using heart/lung shots attempting to determine what is the difference in the “effectiveness” between the two rifles and calibers. I may switch to Crosman Premiers or FTSs in the R9 for a more valid comparison. This rat #35 was a very large, tenacious and apparently very pregnant female. She went 14 ½ inches “between the pegs” and weighed a tudge over 3 pounds, as weighed on a small hand held fish scale. Of three rats killed with the R9, #35 is the only one which has required an “insurance” shot, so far. A 15 inch male, rat #32, shot with the M54 did not require the “insurance” shot and barely quivered before it died. Too small of a sampling for now, but time will tell and of course with the cooperation of more rats!

Now let us see what’s next. Ah yes, “A Lion Drive on Lake Nakaru” with Chapman, circa 1904…….mmmm and that coffee sure is good!

WHITETAIL
05-24-2020, 10:52 AM
good going Larry!:Fire:

Green Frog
05-24-2020, 11:35 AM
Magnificent Larry. It takes a real writer to bring the task of exterminating rats to a level of excitement and adventure in the way you’ve done here. I salute you!

Froggie

Der Gebirgsjager
05-24-2020, 11:52 AM
Great story, well written. Almost makes me wish I had rats.......

sundog
05-24-2020, 12:06 PM
Which brings to mind Rooster Cogburn's, writ for a rat.

"Mr. Rat, I have a writ here that says you are to stop eating Chen Lee's cornmeal forthwith. Now, It's a rat writ, writ for a rat, and this is lawful service of same! [to Mattie] See? He doesn't pay any attention to me. [shoots the rat] You can't serve papers on a rat, baby sister. You either kill him or let him be."

So, y'all suppose Rooster's hog leg was a bit much for Mr. Rat?

Mal Paso
05-24-2020, 04:34 PM
Thanks Larry! I was out weedwacking the range. What great posts to come back to!

Texas by God
05-24-2020, 05:26 PM
Thanks for the great tale! I hate rats and crows above most any critter but I balance it out by loving to kill them;-)

Mal Paso
05-26-2020, 12:52 AM
I spent time each of the last 3 days at "the range" and shot about 250 pellets. The scope is pretty well dialed in for the RWS 14.5G Superdome pellets I have. The Crosman Premier Domed will be here Wednesday and I'll see if they tighten up groups. I built a simple pellet trap today but the plywood face must have been better quality as not many pellets made it through. Still experimenting.

Thanks for everything! This is a Blast!

abunaitoo
05-26-2020, 03:17 AM
Are the guys in Maui still shooting? Island hopping for matches or practice isn't really an option I guess.

Travel between island is forbidden.
My friend goes to Lani to offer veterinary care for animals there.
There was no care before.
He hasn't been able to go since this thing started.
Interesting note about Lani.....
Larry Ellison of Oracle Corporation.
Owns almost the whole island.
He's probably the best thing to happen to that island in a long, long time.
I'd say he's spent over a billion building it into a luxury resorts.
He is providing much needed jobs and has helped small business there.
He rebuilt, and reopened, the shopping center.
He hired my friend, who lives on Oahu, to go there once a month, for a week to provide veterinary care.
Pays for his airfare, hotel, meals.
Last I've heard he still paying all his workers there, even with almost everything closed down by the gooberment.
Unlike zuckerman, Larry Ellison is helping people, not just stealing their land..

dale2242
05-26-2020, 08:51 AM
Larry, have you considered writing a collection of hunting stories?
This one would be a good place to start.
You had me on the edge of my seat wondering if you would get the shot off.
Well written and fun to read.
We need to hear more of such from you.

IHuntDragons
05-26-2020, 02:25 PM
Congrats on your own range...27 yards is a start.

35remington
05-26-2020, 05:46 PM
My brother likes to say tree squirrels are really rats with better PR. They have done a real number on his deck, edging, and roof.

Mal Paso
05-26-2020, 11:32 PM
Thanks! Larry's pellet recommendation was spot on. The Crosman Premier Domed pellets got here today so I drove down to the mailboxes, got them and they grouped tighter and to the left of the RWSs. I even got a couple ragged holes. The flies drove me in tonight. Hard to focus with a fly on your nose. LOL

I know in some areas squirrels are the most hated rodent. Here the squirrels do not invade man made space. Rats, Mice and Gophers are prime targets here. We have some Wood Rats that qualify as ROUSs.

Jniedbalski
05-27-2020, 12:21 AM
Now I want to get the air rifle and pistol out. Good story.

frkelly74
05-27-2020, 08:59 AM
Reminds me of a raccoon safari I went on once. The part about the dear wife with her hands on her hips was just typical. Thank you for sharing. I need a range in the basement or some property someplace out of hearing of nosey neighbors.

WRideout
05-27-2020, 12:21 PM
Back when I was in the TN Army National Guard, we had a number of "good 'ol country boys," in my unit. I don't qualify as such (I was born in California; don't judge me.) At that time, my family owned a dog that was one of the stupidest animals that ever lived. Lucy was half Catahoula hound, and half Airedale. She got none of the good qualities of either.

There was construction near our home that required clearing of woods . The resident rats had moved out of the clearing, and into the neighborhood where we lived. The rats soon began burrowing under the dog's house, where they lived a fine life-style, eating the dog's food and drinking the dog's water. Lucy paid them no mind at all. One morning, when I went in the back yard to check out the day in my pajamas, I saw rats scurrying around the dog house. Lucy was sleeping inside. I retrieved my air rifle, I think a Gamo sold by Beeman, and loaded it. When one rat leaned over the water dish, I got him clean with one shot.

At the next guard drill, I announced to my fellows, "Hey guys, I get five redneck points. I shot a rat in my pajamas yesterday." One of my comrades, who knows about these things asked, "what kind of weapon did you use?" I told him it was my precision air rifle. He told me, "That's minus points. You have to use a weapon that is loud enough to wake up the neighbors and arouse suspicion." I was crushed.

Wayne

TNsailorman
05-27-2020, 05:04 PM
Great story Larry. My problem is that I now live in the so called country (actually suburbs of a small city) and I haven't seen a rat around here in some 15 or 20 years. We do have squirrels, dove, birds of all kinds, turkeys, deer, ground hogs, possums, and coons with an very rare black bear which will pass thru looking for food. But if I were to harm one of them, my wife would immediately revoke my PH license. In the winter we feed the deer, turkey, squirrels and any others that manage to find the corn we spread on the ground. Seleous, Capstick, Patterson, Lyell, Stigand and the boys will just have to go it alone without me I guess. james