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abunaitoo
05-16-2020, 02:47 PM
I know what this one is.
But wonder how many know old tools.
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Smoke4320
05-16-2020, 03:12 PM
in Puerto Rico its called a domesticator.
When she done good you roll her back with it
When bad you use it on her thumb :) :)

Pressman
05-16-2020, 03:19 PM
This sort of cleaned up image might help.

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super6
05-16-2020, 03:23 PM
A certificate Stamp of some thing?

Oyeboten
05-16-2020, 03:36 PM
I love old Tools, and I know many odd ones, but I sure do not know know what this one is.

I hope I can find out as the Thread progresses..!

square butte
05-16-2020, 03:41 PM
It's designed to inflict pain if you use more than your allotted share of toilet paper - You won't miss it until you don't have it

JSnover
05-16-2020, 04:36 PM
Almost looks like an old mop head but if it was the roller on the bottom wouldn't serve any purpose.

JimB..
05-16-2020, 06:33 PM
Angle guide for sharpening a plane iron.

abunaitoo
05-17-2020, 02:07 AM
Bingo!!!!!!!
It wasn't very well known, even back in the days.
They do make modern one's.
Very few use those to.

David2011
05-19-2020, 03:17 PM
Wow. I can see it now but wouldn’t have guessed. I use century old tools daily but my plane/chisel sharpening guide is a modern one that looks very different.

M-Tecs
05-19-2020, 03:57 PM
Wow. I can see it now but wouldn’t have guessed. I use century old tools daily but my plane/chisel sharpening guide is a modern one that looks very different.

Same I can see it now but wouldn’t have guessed..............

abunaitoo
05-20-2020, 03:24 AM
This one is one of the better one's.
You can adjust the angle with out having to move the blade.
The bottom thumb wheel holds the blade.
The top one mover the roller on the bottom.
Kind of like fine tuning the angle.
Marked............
Millers Falls Co,
Greenfield Mass
No 240 Made in USA
Old American tools were the best in the world.
Now almost everything is chinese junk.

JimB..
05-20-2020, 08:09 AM
Yes, in use you set the primary angle and sharpen to the edge, then you lower the wheel just a bit and hone a secondary bevel. In the process you can flip the blade over to polish the back of the blade without removing the guide. For subsequent sharpening you reinstall the blade at the same length as before and just hone that secondary bevel. Once that bevel gets too big you start over with the primary bevel.

Millers Falls made some good tools.

abunaitoo
05-21-2020, 04:33 AM
Back in the days, we used to make tools that would last and do the best at what it was designed for.
These days it's all about profit, so workmanship and durability is a non-factor.
The same can be said of the 'new generation" of workers.
Very sad.

Bazoo
05-21-2020, 05:56 AM
Neat, thanks for sharing.

I don't find it hard to sharpen a plane iron by hand. Course, you have to know how the particular plain is used and sharpen the iron accordingly. Only plane I have currently is a #4 jack. Good old fashioned all purpose #4.

I always think about making a knife out of the iron when I take it out to sharpen it.

bangerjim
05-21-2020, 05:18 PM
JimB beat me to it. But is definitely IS an angle holder for sharpening chisels and plane blades on a flat stone.

Have a couple of them. I collect olde tools.

If you want an exact flat angle on your blades, you WILL use this! I never used to hand sharpen cutting blades with out one. Your hands/body cannot hold the blade in the exact same angle/position for many repetitive strokes over the stone. Once you use it you will wonder how you got along with out it!

It is the same as the guy that tells you he can sharpen a twist drill without a sharpening guide! Cannot be done. Sure the drill will cut, but both flute faces have to be exactly the same angle, length, and position to cut correctly. That is why I use a Darex bit sharpener! Perfect grinds, perfect angles, chips come off the cutting faces in equal shape and thickness!

Today I sharpen most of my plane and cutter blades on a 200 RPM 14" powered whetstone. It has an adapter similar to that old tool above except it is held firm at the angle you dial in and then press the blade against the slowly revolving wet stone. No burned blue steel there! That is how I get perfect bevel-ground blades just like the factory does it!

banger

Bazoo
05-21-2020, 08:02 PM
I have found setting up a planes frog and chip breaker is far more critical to get the desired cut than the sharpening angle of the blade. Problem with an angle guide is you can't get a slight convex on you blade. Any rough work it's desirable to have a slight convex.

Only a finish plane and a joining plane needs a square and flat edge. The angle really isn't critical, just that the edge isn't wavy. Least this is my experience.

JimB..
05-23-2020, 09:53 PM
I have found setting up a planes frog and chip breaker is far more critical to get the desired cut than the sharpening angle of the blade. Problem with an angle guide is you can't get a slight convex on you blade. Any rough work it's desirable to have a slight convex.

Only a finish plane and a joining plane needs a square and flat edge. The angle really isn't critical, just that the edge isn't wavy. Least this is my experience.

I’ve had many long discussions about the importance of the bevel angle on bevel-down plane irons, I’ve always viewed it as just being a clearance angle. Have spoken to Ron Hock and he agrees as do some other folk, others do not, it’s the 9mm vs 45 of the hand tool world. FWIW, I tend to put a slight curve on all my plane irons, even the finishing ones. Using a guide I put a bit of pressure on the outside of the blade.

I do enjoy a bit of hand tool work, but there never seems to be enough time for all my hobbies!