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fiatdad
05-15-2020, 09:19 PM
I loaded a few cases with gas checked bullets, but found that I had the wrong load. When I used a kenitic puller the gas checks came off inside the case. Were these checks too loose or is that normal.
Nick

Winger Ed.
05-15-2020, 09:22 PM
If they don't crimp on like a old style bottle cap the way Hornady's & some others do, it kind of is pretty normal.

I've had a couple of Hornadys do it too if the boolit base is a bit too small,
or I didn't size them down as small as others. Like sizing to .0311 instead of .0309 or .0310

BK7saum
05-16-2020, 06:37 AM
It is a fairly normal occurrence. If you need to remove the check, push down on one side and turn the check vertical in the neck, then pull out with needle nose pliers.

DHDeal
05-16-2020, 08:29 AM
For me it's probably more often than not when the GC bullets are really crimped in. Luckily I don't have to pull very many bullets.

dimaprok
05-18-2020, 09:11 PM
For homemade / Sage gas checks this is normal, It happens to me all the time to me. Push it in with sizing die and take it out with needle nose pliers sideways.

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Super Sneaky Steve
07-11-2020, 02:01 PM
I had an idea on how to bond the GC to the boolit. Do your powdercoat shake, then apply the check before the bake.

This should bond it. Haven't tried it yet but I plan to.

Retumbo
07-11-2020, 02:07 PM
I had an idea on how to bond the GC to the boolit. Do your powdercoat shake, then apply the check before the bake.

This should bond it. Haven't tried it yet but I plan to.

too much work...a drop of crazy glue will get you there

Super Sneaky Steve
07-11-2020, 02:43 PM
too much work...a drop of crazy glue will get you there

Crazy glue would be extra work. I'm going to powder coat and apply a GC the only change is what order things are done. No extra work. The PC should be a better bond than crazy glue.

725
07-12-2020, 03:40 PM
I had a loose check problem. Took my knife and scraped the mold at the check line and increased my mold by a hair. Checks then held.

Eddie17
07-12-2020, 05:31 PM
How do you keep uncured PC from coming off in the GC install?
I size an install GC after PC coating!
Works for me.

LAKEMASTER
07-16-2020, 10:33 AM
I gave a box of loaded 3006 ammo that won't load into my pump action rifle because the bullet is to large and my rifle throat is to small. I started to pull the bullets and the checks will not come out of the case neck. All 250 rounds are sitting in a box until I know what do do with them. So it's a common problem my friend

gwpercle
07-20-2020, 02:18 PM
Turn the gas check sideways inside the case just enough so you can grab the check with a small jewelers needle nose pliers and pull it out .
Some checks have a crimp onto the boolit feature and some don't ...these will sometimes slip off when pulling the bullet . No biggie , a dental pick , knitting needle , small needle nose pliers all can be used to "worry out " the pesky check . Be sure and dump the powder ...the first check I pulled out I forgot about and spilled the powder .... only did that once !
Gary

trimar009
08-09-2020, 02:57 PM
Loose GC seater idea. Works for me with my home made alum GC's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxm-lQovp5U

Baltimoreed
08-10-2020, 12:49 PM
I’ve found that copper checks have a small amount of spring back which I noticed with some of my cast boolits with a little too small of bases. I annealed the checks which removed the spring but was an extra chore so I switched to aluminum checks that have no spring back, they work fine and seat tightly. I haven't tried to pull any of these boolits though. Give some aluminum ones a try. I got mine from Sarges.

Shamus
09-17-2020, 09:10 PM
Gas checks are designed for a specific shank dimension and overall diameter. Hopefully the mold is made right in the first place too! When I shot into old phone books my bullets kept most of the gas checks on even mushroomed out a lot. Many of the "problem" ones guys sent me over the years were under sized and sometimes with very hard mystery alloy's. I saw lots of 6.5's with .249 shanks. I made a Small Shank 6.5 mm for those. Lots of those 6.5 molds with small shanks out there sadly.