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Prodigal Son
04-27-2020, 10:55 PM
I'm having JES Reboring do a 375 Whelen for me. It's a 1951 Win M 70 and was wondering where to get the dies and what boolits and loads have been being used! Can't wait to see it! I have a 9.3x62 and a 338 /06 AI just wanted another medium bore to sling some cast!

FLINTNFIRE
04-28-2020, 12:40 AM
CH4D get your dies there the stoner at rcbs mumbled about getting them through midway , I called CH4D and the older gentleman [his name escapes me at the moment | called well after they would have been closed , He checked shelves and none in and said he would make them when he had time as they were backed up a ways , He did not want payment till they were ready , I asked to pay ahead of time and he let me .

Few months later half of the time he said it would take , the dies showed up .

I had jesse do mine it was a 1903 springfield , wonderful man .

unclemikeinct
04-28-2020, 04:29 AM
I always knew you could do that. Until today I never heard of it. I want to see & hear about this conversion when completed. I really like the 375 bore & I like my old 35 Whelen. Great Combo. uncle mike

richhodg66
04-28-2020, 07:53 AM
CH4D get your dies there the stoner at rcbs mumbled about getting them through midway , I called CH4D and the older gentleman [his name escapes me at the moment | called well after they would have been closed , He checked shelves and none in and said he would make them when he had time as they were backed up a ways , He did not want payment till they were ready , I asked to pay ahead of time and he let me .

Few months later half of the time he said it would take , the dies showed up .

I had jesse do mine it was a 1903 springfield , wonderful man .

Surprised to hear that about RCBS, every time I've ever dealt with them over the years, their customer service has been top notch.

A .375 Whelen sounds interesting. Lots of potential for cast too, with all the molds out there for the .38-55 and such.

Prodigal Son
05-09-2020, 12:46 PM
Got my 375Whelen dies and making brass when my gun gets here! CH4D dies are very nice craftsmanship and reasonably priced! Now to decide on a boolit mold!

Tripplebeards
05-09-2020, 07:46 PM
I might have to get another Remington 7600 carbine In 35 whelen and have it bored To 375.

Prodigal Son
05-09-2020, 11:10 PM
I'm waiting for mine to get back so I can start developing loads!

Stephen Cohen
05-10-2020, 02:55 AM
I have a 375 Whelen built on a Mauser 98 action, I took my very first deer with this rifle some 6yrs ago. I have used both the Lee 250gr FN .378, and the RCBS .375 259gr GC moulds. I have driven the Lee PB to 1,800fps with good accuracy but the RCBS GC mould is a better option for higher velocity. I would have o agree with a good mate of mine who calls the 375 Whelen the perfect 30/06. You will be happy with this calibre. Regards Stephen

Prodigal Son
05-10-2020, 10:48 AM
Would like to shoot heavier boolits than 250 gr. 275-300 gr. I will see what it likes to determine what I will shoot! Hopefully on the heavier side!

mart
05-10-2020, 11:09 AM
I had Jes do a 375 Whelen for me several years ago. It was a Sedgley Springfield with a rough bore. He got it back to my in 10 days, from my door back to my door. I got the dies from CH4D. At that time they had them on the shelf. I shoot everything from 235 grain to 300 grain jacketed. I never found a bullet it didn't like. I did not try any cast bullets with it. I truly regret selling that one. I thought it kind of duplicated what I already had, a 35 Whelen, 9.3x57 and 400 Whelen. I wish I had it back. I've made offers to the buyer but he likes it a lot.

You might keep an eye on eBay. It is surprising what turns up there for odd or wildcat dies. I found some Redding 401 Winchester Self Loading dies there once. And I had a 401 at the time and grabbed them.

Stephen Cohen
05-11-2020, 03:23 AM
Would like to shoot heavier boolits than 250 gr. 275-300 gr. I will see what it likes to determine what I will shoot! Hopefully on the heavier side!

I agree that heavy for calibre s the way to go, I also hope to try some 300gr cast when I get the chance. I get outstanding accuracy with cast in all cal above 308 and hope to get there with those when I get around to them. I feel a GC mould will be an advantage and I also use Hi-Tek coating. Regards Stephen

Prodigal Son
05-11-2020, 10:56 AM
I have found medium to large bores seem to be more accurate than smaller bores at least less work to make group good? I shoot .412, .338, .358 and .366 bores and all shoot great under 2000 fps, PB or GC makes no difference.

Prodigal Son
05-11-2020, 07:15 PM
Got my rifle back from JES today shot some 278 gr GC with 40 gr of Varget nice load no problems with feeding or head space. OAL of case was 2.445 and was a light load as I had soot on the neck and primer still round on the primer. My scope base was crack on the front base, sending it back to a Leupold for a replacement so I can mount my scope! Anyone with some loads could be helpful!

Stephen Cohen
05-11-2020, 08:25 PM
Prodigal Son, May I suggest you use close to full load to form your shells properly, I found out rather early that light loads tend not to fill out the case properly and have caused head space issues. I also agree with you on the medium to large bores being easier to get accurate cast loads for. I have 3 shot clover leaf groups of dime size with my 458 wm and I have never shot a group larger than 1 1/4'' from my 357 Max rifle. You will love the Whelen it is a fine cartridge and should have been a factory load years ago. Regards Stephen

Prodigal Son
05-11-2020, 08:28 PM
Thank you Stephen I will try to boost the load as it is mild right now, but case formed nicely don't know where my load is just know it can be hotter! Thanks for the input! Otis!

waksupi
05-12-2020, 09:30 AM
Prodigal Son, May I suggest you use close to full load to form your shells properly, I found out rather early that light loads tend not to fill out the case properly and have caused head space issues. I also agree with you on the medium to large bores being easier to get accurate cast loads for. I have 3 shot clover leaf groups of dime size with my 458 wm and I have never shot a group larger than 1 1/4'' from my 357 Max rifle. You will love the Whelen it is a fine cartridge and should have been a factory load years ago. Regards Stephen

When I fire form, I fire each case twice before serious load development.

beltfed
05-12-2020, 10:08 AM
A friend of mine has a 375 Whelan Improved that has a "blown out" sharper shoulder for more sure headspacing
beltfed/arnie

Stephen Cohen
05-12-2020, 11:53 PM
A friend of mine has a 375 Whelan Improved that has a "blown out" sharper shoulder for more sure headspacing
beltfed/arnie

I have heard of at least 4 different shoulder angles in the Whelan, mine is the 40 degree shoulder angle and the Improved version. Mine shot so well my brother pulled the barrel from his Sako 08 and made a 375 Whelan as well. I believe the 06 case is a perfect match in so many cals. Regards Stephen

Fast Asleep
05-13-2020, 09:48 AM
Agree on the 375 Whelen—I have JES rebores in 338-06 and 375 and 400 Whelen plus a 35 Whelen barrel in a Mauser. The only way to improve on the 30-06 is to open up the case neck and use bigger bullets!

The 375 is my favorite and I am using 375 JDJ dies (already had on hand) for loading until I get proper dies rounded up.

Prodigal Son
05-13-2020, 11:05 AM
CH4D has them on the shelf

Prodigal Son
05-14-2020, 09:28 PM
Loaded some 278 gr GC boolits with 50.0 grs of Varget made a sharp shoulder and no signs of pressure! Still soot on the neck. JES said he tested the rifle with 58.0 grs of 4064 with a 270 bullet shot fine. Looking for a Redfield one piece Jr mount for a M 70 pre '64 to mount my scope!

Gray Fox
05-14-2020, 10:11 PM
I wonder how the .375 would be in a min-80s Browning 1895 that is now an '06? Cast boolits only, of course! GF

Stephen Cohen
05-14-2020, 11:03 PM
Prodigal Son, I load 55gr of Varget behind a 270gr Sierra and if memory is correct it gave a velocity of 2,471fps, I have loaded several grains more but found 55gr to be the sweet spot in my Whelen. Grey Fox, in my view a Whelen is great in any action it fits, but I do like the way you think. Regards Stephen

Prodigal Son
05-15-2020, 05:56 PM
262160262161 got the scope mounted and bore sighted loaded up a few for testing later!

Prodigal Son
05-15-2020, 05:59 PM
262163262164 the old M70 brought back to life as a cast boolits gun! Can't wait to thump something with this sweet as classic gun and nostalgic cartridge! Love' n it!

Prodigal Son
05-15-2020, 06:00 PM
Thanks to JES reboring always does a super job!

Stephen Cohen
05-15-2020, 09:44 PM
262160262161 got the scope mounted and bore sighted loaded up a few for testing later!

Man they look sweet and nice rifle as well. A good friend of mine has a 300gr mould I am eager to try. Did I mention I just love this calibre. Regards Stephen

Prodigal Son
05-15-2020, 10:24 PM
I'm starting to think it's going to be a goodern

Texas by God
05-15-2020, 11:01 PM
"But you messed with a classic"
Yes, you (and JES)made it better!

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Prodigal Son
05-16-2020, 09:08 AM
Takes balls to do a vintage collectors gun!

Stephen Cohen
05-16-2020, 06:52 PM
Takes balls to do a vintage collectors gun!

Or great man with a vision lol. Regards Stephen

taco650
05-18-2020, 06:46 AM
What twist rate did JES put in the barrel?

Prodigal Son
05-18-2020, 08:38 AM
1 in 12

richhodg66
05-18-2020, 08:42 AM
What does a set of dies for that set you back? A few years ago, I bought a Santa Barbara Mauser with the intent of getting it bored for .35 Whelen. Actually shot it a lot as a .30-06 plinking with cast here at the house and had about decided to just leave it alone for that, but since then, I have gotten neck deep in a .38-55 project and have a lot of cast bullets and molds for it, so this might be as good or better than a Whelen.

Prodigal Son
05-18-2020, 08:47 AM
CH4D had them on the shelf and was $109.00 plus tax! Took less than a week after ordering!

richhodg66
05-18-2020, 09:09 AM
CH4D had them on the shelf and was $109.00 plus tax! Took less than a week after ordering!

That's not bad at all. IS forming cases difficult? Seems like you'd want to neck that up in steps, or do you just fireform them somehow?

Prodigal Son
05-18-2020, 09:14 AM
No I have a taper die that only open the mouth but does not touch the original shoulder, then neck down to .375 seems to be working out nicely! One pass with the sizer die is no much different, trim to square the mount! From '06 brass too!

Stephen Cohen
05-18-2020, 10:32 PM
I have actually made the 375 Whelen from 270 win as well but I did use the cream of wheat process for that. My brother just opens 30/06 the 375 and seats a bullet and forms them on first firing. Regards Stephen

Prodigal Son
05-20-2020, 03:52 PM
Well 54.7 grs of Varget is all I think I need right now! Rocks your world after 5 shots next to shoot for group just have to brush hog my range first!