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koger
04-23-2020, 08:04 PM
I have several 30/30's, and I want to start hunting with them, with cast. I figure most will be 150yd shots or less, most under 100 yds. Does Lee make a good bullet with a flat nose, that will do the job? I am thinking between 150-180 gr with a gas check? Or a plain base will work, I am thinking, 1500fps or thereabout. I am also powder coating now, so figure that in the equation, if you have any experience with that.

Chad5005
04-23-2020, 08:07 PM
yes lee has a 309-170 2 cavity,i think its19.99 at midway,its gas checked,mine and my sons 336 both shoot them well coated with smokes powder

koger
04-23-2020, 08:26 PM
Chad thanks for the reply, I have a double cavity Lee 170 but it has the round nose, is yours that one or the flat nose one.

Rattlesnake Charlie
04-23-2020, 08:35 PM
Yes, the Lee 170 gn FN GC is a good bullet. I did run into one mold that cast the nose fatter than a Marlin would take. Another mold of same make and model worked fine. I have a lot of Lee molds, and they work fine. Been using them since the 1970's.

Winger Ed.
04-23-2020, 08:39 PM
I shoot a .30 RCBS 170 RN, and have been quite happy with it.
I've only shot 4 deer with it at 80-100 yards, but after they were hit- they never took another step.

Until everybody all crazy about meplats- the world was happy doing most of their hunting
with RN or SPs for well over a hundred years.

The Lee should do a good job for you too.

Chad5005
04-23-2020, 08:39 PM
Chad thanks for the reply, I have a double cavity Lee 170 but it has the round nose, is yours that one or the flat nose one.

mine is the flat nose,c309-170-f

Texas by God
04-23-2020, 09:56 PM
The 150 and 170 flat nose Lees both shoot great for me. I’ve only killed one buck with the 150gr at 1800 FPS at 40 yards no drama.

rtyler8140
04-23-2020, 10:27 PM
I'm shooting both the 150 and 170 Lee flat nose in my 30-06. Hope to take a deer with them this fall. They have proven to be very accurate for me. I gas check and powder coat both of them.

richhodg66
04-24-2020, 07:54 AM
The Lyman 311041 is the classic .30-30 bullet. I've also had real good luck with the Ranch Dog bullet, NOE still makes molds in it. If I were gonna start from scratch and my rifle would feed it, I believe I'd opt for the RCBS 180 grain flat point now.

Good read here on the subject; http://www.castbullet.com/reload/meplat.htm

dg31872
04-24-2020, 08:04 AM
Plus one for the RCBS 180 FP. With a book load of 2400, it gets the job done.

atr
04-24-2020, 10:15 AM
with my bolt action 30-30 I use a 180 gr RN

725
04-24-2020, 11:12 AM
I like the 311041, too.

quilbilly
04-24-2020, 12:54 PM
I like the 311041, too.
This boolit has worked well for me on deer but I have also used a 130 gr flat nose semi-point boolit out of a Mihec mold and the deer were just as dead. Both size/style boolits left the muzzle at a leisurely 1600-1650 fps.

koger
04-24-2020, 01:10 PM
Thanks for the replies guys.

GregLaROCHE
04-24-2020, 02:39 PM
If I were power coating and using it for hunting, I would consider skipping the gas check. That’s my personal opinion trying to save a buck to shoot more. Let’s see what others have to say on the subject.

gumbo333
04-24-2020, 04:49 PM
If you don't cast there are a bunch of good boolits you can buy, 165 gr on up. Some are HyTek or PC. Get them sized right. If you prefer j bullets, it's hard to beat the Speer 170 gr flat point. It works.

richhodg66
04-24-2020, 05:17 PM
with my bolt action 30-30 I use a 180 gr RN

What bolt gun? I used a Savage 340 in .30-30 to kill my first "small bore" cast bullet deer. I'd been doing it with muzzle loaders for years, but that's no real trick. I used an old Ideal 31141 cast of wheel weights plus 2% tin propelled by 25 grains of the B-West BW 36 imported powder they used to sell that burned about like IMR 3031, worked well, but I switched to a softer alloy for subsequent deer hunting after that one.

I like that little 340, not picky at all about cast bullets, seems to shoot any design I load in it pretty well.

koger
04-25-2020, 10:19 AM
Gumbo I have been casting close to 40 years, so that is a no brainer. Greg I am planning on trying the PC coated ones without aGC to see how it performs. I have recently started PC and I love it so far.

gumbo333
04-25-2020, 07:36 PM
Kroger if you have been casting for 40 years you likely can cast up boolits way better than I can ever buy. I do like the PC or HyTek boolits.

NorthMoccasin
04-25-2020, 08:13 PM
+1 on the 311041. I like it hollow pointed driven about 1600-1800fs. If you dont have a HP mold, Forster makes a nifty HP attachment for their trimmer. A shallow Hp and softer alloy works best. works on any 30 cal.

CASTER OF LEAD
04-25-2020, 09:04 PM
I shoot the Lachmiller 174 gr. FN GC, Powder coated ,and traditional lubes over 21 gr. Of IMR 4198. They shoot equally well out of my lever guns , and my 788 bolt gun. YMMV

richhodg66
04-26-2020, 10:25 AM
I shoot the Lachmiller 174 gr. FN GC, Powder coated ,and traditional lubes over 21 gr. Of IMR 4198. They shoot equally well out of my lever guns , and my 788 bolt gun. YMMV

I think that mold is a copy of the 31141, there's one on evil bay right now. Seems a lot of the Herters molds were very close copies of Lyman designs too. All the Lachmiller stuff I've seen and have is very high quality, you probably got a better mold than a Lyman.

444ttd
04-26-2020, 12:27 PM
165gr ranch dog noe werks wonders in my 30-40 krag

MT Gianni
04-26-2020, 12:31 PM
RCBS 180 FN is another good killer, as is the 150 FN. Almost anything with a fn you can put through the lungs will kill them.

Les Staley
04-26-2020, 12:49 PM
Koger and GregLaRouche, please post how well/or not the PCed Lee 170 309 shoots w/out gas checks. I've had excellent results on whitetails with gas checks (2 in 2 years), but am also known as the king of cheap! Gotta keep up appearances, you know.

Texas by God
04-27-2020, 12:01 AM
I give a thumb up for the C309170F- here's 4 of them from my 30-30 @ 100 yards.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200427/24fd242305e6dc9d41c8127e8d099a03.jpg

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koger
04-27-2020, 05:14 PM
Dang good shooting Thomas. I had a "duuhh" moment today, when I checked the 170g Lees I had casted, they were flat nosed, don't know what I was thinking. I had some checked and sized, so I powder coated them, going to PC some without checks tomorrow. Thanks for all the replies so far.

missionary5155
04-27-2020, 06:02 PM
Good afternoon
I am very happy with the RBS 180 FNGC in most any caliber 30. At about 1750 fps cast of 50-50 or even range scrap at 50 yards and under (river bottoms) it does a fine job on any thing it sacks into.
Mike in LLama Land

fcvan
04-29-2020, 05:36 PM
Years ago, I bought the Lee C309-150 RF just because it was on sale. I didn’t have a 30-30 but what the heck. I have shot it through Dad’s sporterized 03-A3 and it shot great. Years later, my Wife inherited her grandfather’s Winchester and I loaded some for her she hasn’t shot yet. Works great in my AR10, M1A, and scout rifle. I was really impressed how it shot through the AR15 in 300BO. I will get a heavier RF in the future for the bolt guns.

koger
04-29-2020, 09:38 PM
Fcvan, I shoot a lot of 300BO, could you pm me some data. I have had good luck with some Lee 230 gr I cast and coated with moly, in both my AR's and a Ruger Ranch bolt gun. I will be powdercoating some of them shortly.