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11-21-2008, 06:06 PM
How about a show of hans from anyone that likes 32 cal revolvers, me, nme, me, !
Now how many have a dream of finding an afordable K-32? (dream on)
OK then how many can settle for a less expensive gun until that K frame comes your way.
Well that kinda the way it is for me with the 7.62 Nagant pistal. Affordable,yes durable, yes shootable,NO! Why not?
Well I can answer that in one word, triggerpull. Is at one word? Well who cares its too much.
For $70.00 for one of these little gems its worth trying to find some (cheap) way to get these little guns to act more like a refined sporter.
Well we finally got to it and the results are perty good.
First to address the ammo issue. Remember my emphasis is always on cheap. First those cylender throats are outa here. An 8mm boolit at .325" drops right through. Barrel slugs a plesent .314". Remember the correct case length will have the boolit in the case neck until it enters the forcing cone. The best I can come up with without ordering the right stuff available from starline is 32/20. 32/20 come up a tad short but will get the boolit close to the forcing cone without much of a gap there.
Using a Lee carb sizer for 30 carb dimentions the case about right for easy fit to the cylinder.
So with some suitable ammo how bout that trigger? Here is what we done to make a very nice single action and a decent double action pull.
are real simple to take apart and work on. We took out the triger and reduced the width of the sear to very nearly a point. As issued it is about .35" (guess). Reducing that much surface area helps but you still have a very powerful main spring to overcome.
The gap in the main spring can be reduced by about 1/3 and still get positive primer ignition. We used a small propain torch to heat the spring to red hot the close the gap by about 1/3. Reheat to red again then quench in oil to get the temper back. This results in a very nice single action pull and at least for half the stroke a nice double pull too.
At this point grouping capability went from not being able to hit a rabbit at 30' to being able to make head shots at the same range in single action.
Now as I said the double action pull is very nice for half it stroke, until the gizmo that pushes the cylender forward to engauge the forcing cone is engauged. At this point there is another spring that must be overcome.
It is contained in the cylender, accessed from the front. To get an even nicer double action pull this spring can be replaced with a lighter one. Its a coil spring and must closly fit the cylender bushing.
Now admitedly when I started out this little revolver would dependably ignite small rifle magnum primers. It will no longer do that but does dependably ignite small pistal primers. Staying withing safe pressures for the revolver small pistal primers are just fine.
This rather simple procedure has completely changed my view of these cheap, read inexpensive little guns. The more I use it now the greater my admiration grows for it.
Any of you folks that have them but were greatly dissapointed with them dont give up yet. Ist looking like they may be nice little pistals after all.
Until that K-32 comes along shoot that Nagant, you may just quit looking for the Smith.
BIC/BS
Now how many have a dream of finding an afordable K-32? (dream on)
OK then how many can settle for a less expensive gun until that K frame comes your way.
Well that kinda the way it is for me with the 7.62 Nagant pistal. Affordable,yes durable, yes shootable,NO! Why not?
Well I can answer that in one word, triggerpull. Is at one word? Well who cares its too much.
For $70.00 for one of these little gems its worth trying to find some (cheap) way to get these little guns to act more like a refined sporter.
Well we finally got to it and the results are perty good.
First to address the ammo issue. Remember my emphasis is always on cheap. First those cylender throats are outa here. An 8mm boolit at .325" drops right through. Barrel slugs a plesent .314". Remember the correct case length will have the boolit in the case neck until it enters the forcing cone. The best I can come up with without ordering the right stuff available from starline is 32/20. 32/20 come up a tad short but will get the boolit close to the forcing cone without much of a gap there.
Using a Lee carb sizer for 30 carb dimentions the case about right for easy fit to the cylinder.
So with some suitable ammo how bout that trigger? Here is what we done to make a very nice single action and a decent double action pull.
are real simple to take apart and work on. We took out the triger and reduced the width of the sear to very nearly a point. As issued it is about .35" (guess). Reducing that much surface area helps but you still have a very powerful main spring to overcome.
The gap in the main spring can be reduced by about 1/3 and still get positive primer ignition. We used a small propain torch to heat the spring to red hot the close the gap by about 1/3. Reheat to red again then quench in oil to get the temper back. This results in a very nice single action pull and at least for half the stroke a nice double pull too.
At this point grouping capability went from not being able to hit a rabbit at 30' to being able to make head shots at the same range in single action.
Now as I said the double action pull is very nice for half it stroke, until the gizmo that pushes the cylender forward to engauge the forcing cone is engauged. At this point there is another spring that must be overcome.
It is contained in the cylender, accessed from the front. To get an even nicer double action pull this spring can be replaced with a lighter one. Its a coil spring and must closly fit the cylender bushing.
Now admitedly when I started out this little revolver would dependably ignite small rifle magnum primers. It will no longer do that but does dependably ignite small pistal primers. Staying withing safe pressures for the revolver small pistal primers are just fine.
This rather simple procedure has completely changed my view of these cheap, read inexpensive little guns. The more I use it now the greater my admiration grows for it.
Any of you folks that have them but were greatly dissapointed with them dont give up yet. Ist looking like they may be nice little pistals after all.
Until that K-32 comes along shoot that Nagant, you may just quit looking for the Smith.
BIC/BS