10 Grs. Unique. The Universal Cast Boolit Rifle Load?

[No_1]

I have read a lot about Unique being the universial powder for cast loads. Could you share your experience with cast boolit loads using Unique. Do you consider 10 grs to be the universal load for mid-size cases using middle weight boolits?

Thanks in advance for your input.

Robert

[NHlever]

I sure have had a lot of luck over many years using the 10.0 grain of Unique load in everything from the 30-30 through the 30-06, etc. Often though, it is a starting point. It won't seal .308 cases in most chambers so has to be moved up for that to around 12 grains, and I've found that 7-8 grains in the 30-30 is very accurate, and will do about the same thing with most bullets, especially the 311316. In the 35 Remington, 10.0 is a bit much for plain base pistol bullets, and I found 8.0 grains works better, and that 11.0 grains works better with gas checked bullets. Your mileage may well vary of course. I have used it with success in the 30-30, .257 Roberts, 30-06, 7x57, 8x57, .243 Win., 45-70, .308, etc. It is too much for cases as small as the .223.

[missionary5155]

I use Unique in my 44-40 Colt New Service (8-9 grains 220 grain Saeco) . In my Winny 1892 44-40 I use 8-10 grains with the same Saeco or a Rapine 260 grain. Burns clean and fills up the case well. But then 44-40 is a pistol cartridge.

[Larry Gibson]

I concur with NHlever. It is a good starting point. The mid size cartridges generally do better with 11-12 as he mentioned and the '06 with 12-14 depending on the "middle weight" bullet. With lighter weight cast bullets or PB bullets I most often use Bullseye because with Unique at the load you get consistant ignition you are above the velocity/accuracy level of the bullet. In larger bores like the 45-70 13 gr of Unique works fine for 300-400 gr bullets.

Larry Gibson

[txbirdman]

A friend and I latched on to some of the 200 gr. Lee .30 cal single cavity mould when they were listed on their "discontinue" listing. My buddy "plain based" a couple of them and I've been using that boolit with 10 gr. of Unique in my Savage '06 with good success (2" groups at 100 yds) for awhile now. It's fun for target shooting at know distances but seems to have more of a "rainbow" trajectory this I like for general use. It's a very pleasant load to shoot and it seems to seal well for me.

[jack19512]

I have tried using 10.0 grains of Unique in my Ruger 44 mag with little success and used the same load in my Marlin 1894 44 mag and it wasn't good at all. Maybe I'm just not using the right boolit or load though. I'm having a lot better luck with 296 as far as the 44 mag is concerned.

[kir_kenix]

Unique is one of my favorite powders in the whole world. I have found that 10 grains is usually not a great load, but a good place to start as well. I like 14-16 gr's over a 160-170 gr boolit in the '06 is usually very accurate and cleaner burning then lighter loads. 8 grs in the 30-30 is good range fodder as well.

I think I have used Unique is just about every cartridge I've ever reloaded for, and it takes a bit of tweaking to get that sweet spot, but its usually a mild and accurate load.

[Larry Gibson]

I have tried using 10.0 grains of Unique in my Ruger 44 mag with little success and used the same load in my Marlin 1894 44 mag and it wasn't good at all. Maybe I'm just not using the right boolit or load though. I'm having a lot better luck with 296 as far as the 44 mag is concerned.

Don't know the bullet you are using but if your muzzle velocity is in the sub/trans/ sonic area at the muzzle my experience with Keith SWCs is that accuracy is not good. Either drop back to under the speed of sound or load up so you are sufficiently over it. I us 9 gr Unique (my most often load with 6-7.5" barrels) and it runs 1050 fps out of my 6.5" barrel Ruger FT. It is very accurate. Above that I switch to a slower powder also. If it shoots good with 296 at higher velocity i don't think it's the bullet. If it is a PB bullet I've found the same 1050 - 1100 fps in rifles gives the best accuracy. Above that accuracy can be good but not close to the speed of sound. Things vary with altitude and baromentric pressure so your velocity my be +/- mine. Trick is to stay out of that sub/trans/ sonic area. Each bullet has it's own range in that area also and some don't seem affected by it. SWCs and WCs seem to be the worst.

Larry Gibson

[MtGun44]

I have found that 10gr Unique gives excellent accuracy in 7.5 Swiss, 30-30, 44 mag
7.65Argie, and 30-06 with various cast boolits. My 45-70s do OK with it, but
do better at about 14 gr or so.

I heartily recommend it as a great starting point in .44-40, 44 mag, 45 Colt
and any of the 20th century military bottleneck cartridges with cast boolits.
Best load in the world? Probably not, but pretty likely to shoot at least pretty
good, and in numerous guns it is a great shoote for me.

Bill

[NHlever]

I recently bought some lead, and in the boxes were 300, or so .458 "Bear Creek Supply" swaged 300 gr. dry lubed bullets. This morning I loaded ten of them over 10.0 gr. of Unique, and shot them at 50 yards out of my 1895 45-70 with the fire sights. Here are the first five. They were so much fun to shoot that I just plinked with the other five.

[bcp477]

I should like to point out, just for the record, so to speak, that Unique....though it IS very useful and will give good results in most rifles..... it is NOT suitable for anything but light target or plinking loads. One could certainly assert that Unique is as "universal" a cast bullet powder as one can find - but, it's usefulness IS limited to very light loads. If one wishes to hunt anything larger than a rabbit....or do any target shooting much beyond 100 yards, then Unique is NOT a good choice.

No desire to "split hairs", but I just thought it important to qualify the concept of the "universal" powder for cast shooting.

[35remington]

bcp, I mostly agree, but 10 grains or more of Unique and a light to moderate weight bullet approximates the 32-20 to 30 carbine and that will do for most game smaller than deer in size. That's a pretty wide range.

16 grains Unique gives a 405 grain lead bullet 1260 fps in my Marlin 45-70 and with a hollowpointed or flatnosed bullet is certainly adequate for deer.

So Unique does have some utility for game shooting depending upon how you load it. Bigger game than rabbits will fall cleanly to Unique loaded rounds.

[crabo]

I have never had any luck getting decent groups with the 10 grains of Unique load with several different boolits ihn .44 caliber handguns. The best I can get seems to be 4 to 6 inches at 50 yards. When I bump up the powder charges and go with a slower powder, I can cut those groups in half or less. I haven't done any testing to confirm this, but I think you might need to use the lighter boolits for caliber if you want to shoot that load.

[Three44s]

I have tried using 10.0 grains of Unique in my Ruger 44 mag with little success and used the same load in my Marlin 1894 44 mag and it wasn't good at all. Maybe I'm just not using the right boolit or load though. I'm having a lot better luck with 296 as far as the 44 mag is concerned.

Unique works best for me in the "Skeeter Skelton" loading range ....... 8.5 gr. and if I want it cleaner .... I switch to a magnum primer ..... so long as that switch does not result in leading.

For more beans ......... I use HS-6 and a magnum primer.

The RCBS 250K, 11.8 gr. of HS-6 ..... a Federal 155 (magnum) primer and either a long barrel revolver ..... for just under 1200 fps OR my Smith MG (four inch tube) and 1066 fps ....... a VERY good combo!

Three 44s

[unclebill]

this is a funny thread to me because a buddy and i have a running joke.
whenever a load question comes up between us the answer is 10 of unique.:mrgreen:
and half the time it seems that is right!

[ratherbefishin]

so...what charge would you use with a cast 280 gr bullet in a 9.3x57?I have 200 cast bullets[half with a gas check] and am trying to come up with some load data

[jimkim]

this is a funny thread to me because a buddy and i have a running joke.
whenever a load question comes up between us the answer is 10 of unique.:mrgreen:
and half the time it seems that is right!

Now who would this buddy be? Hmm??? lol

[rayg]

I have used 11grs Unique in my .303 British Enfield and 7.7. Jap and it is a real mild load in those rifles. Just wondering how much more can the Unique powder be loaded up in those calibers to increase the velocity a bit more to help reduce that rainbow effect? For example what would the velocity be at, lets say 15grs? And would that create too high of pressure?

Has anyone loaded more then the 11-12 grs? Ray

[RugerBob]

Fot those of you loading Unique for the 45-70, isn't there a lot of dead space between the powder and bullet? If so, isn't that a bad thing? I am just asking this as I just got a 45-70. Thanks, Bob

[Ben]

This may not win any matches, but with a 230 gr. bullet it is still a very powerful load. I would not be afraid to shoot a deer with this 8 X 57 mm load with 12 grs. of Unique.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v494/haysb/8%20X%2057%20mm%20Sporter/3333.jpg

[35remington]

RugerBob, Unique is relatively position insensitive. So the airspace doesn't matter.

[unclebill]

Now who would this buddy be? Hmm??? lol

stop followin me.
besides mom told you to stay home!

[Newtire]

I get spreading groups with anything over 8.5 grains of Unique and a 120 grain boolit in the 30-30. I get fantastic accuracy in .30-06 with 11.5 grains and a 150 grain boolit and 12.5 grains with a 175 boolit. 12 grains in the .444 with a 200 grain boolit. 12.5 grains in the .35 Remington. I've grown quite fond of the stuff.

Your results may vary!

[870TC]

10 grains of Unique, with a 250pb is a favorite plinking load of mine in the 38-55. It will duplicate the current Winchester factory ammo velocity of around 14-1450fps in my Marlin Cowboy.

[wonderwolf]

10gr in my .44 mags with a 429421 make it something I can reach out at 200 yards and hit a 12" gong with all day with no wear on me or the gun

11gr in my .44 mags and 429421 is what I would carry if I was up against something big. Its faster and abusive to me but it does hit a lot harder. Harder to control if you shoot more than 150 rounds in one sitting you really start to notice it.

80% of my .44mag shooting is done with the 10Gr load and the Keith bullet

[Harnic]

10 grs of Unique has worked very well for me in my BSA Australian Cadet Rifle I rebarreled to 30-30 AI & a 175 gr cast boolet. I used it for a while in my S&W 44 mag as well, but it's a filthy powder & I was coated with soot up past my elbows every time as well as my pistol needed to be torn all the way down & cleaned frequently to prevent jamming.

[Lloyd Smale]

got to watch generalizations. Theres no such thing as a majic load that works in everything. For an example in a 44 mag its a good load with about any bullet weight. In the 45 colt your pushing the envelope in colt and smiths even with a 255 grain bullet. change that to a large framed ruger and your ok again. In a 44 special its not a safe load with any bullet weight. When you get into the bigger cases like the linebaughs and smiths it should work again. Now in rifles. Ill use it in some but not all. I dont go much about 8 in a small case like a 3030 but in a case as big as say a 308 it works fine. Rugerbob ive shot unique in 4570 brass and even bigger cases with no filler for years and never saw a need to use it. Now in the 44 mag and strong 45 colts it may seem strange but 9.5 grains has usually shot better then 10 for me. It kind of a standard load for me. Another one with 44 mags and 45 colts is 9.3 grains of herco. That is my go to load in the 45 colt. It is down in pressure from the 10 grain of unique enough that it doesnt wear on weaker guns.

[NoDakJak]

8.5 grains of Unique behind a 210 grain Lyman boolit fired thru a Taurus Tracker is possibly the most accurate round that I have ever fired thru any revolver. During the last 45 years I have probably shot more Unique than all other powders combined. It may be dirty and not the easiest to measure but it has been around since handloading began and their is certainly a good reason. Neil

[NoDakJak]

Whoops! I neglected to state that the above entry was ffor the 41 magnum cartridge. I stand abashed! Neil

[john66]

Hi!
Unique shot good in my old Omark with Lyman 311332/295 mold with 14 grn
Will shoot 1/2inch groops at 100m all day.
I wanted to put pictures of the groops but cannot work out how to do it.
Cheers, John.
:Fire:

PS: I worked out the uploading pictures, thanks to HABCAN.
I'll dig some more pictures and load tests on 45/70 later.

HERE IS 9 SHOTS FROM MY OLD OMARK WITH A WORN OUT BARREL AT A 100 M

[jack19512]

I wanted to put pictures of the groops but cannot work out how to do it.








Do you have an account with a site such as photobucket?

[ken grant]

Marlin 30/30 Micro-groove barrel.
10 grs. Unique, 165 gr. commercial bullet,plain base(no gas check). Extra lubed with Liquid Alox( very light coat)
Accurate,fun to shoot and no leading in the Micro-Groove barrel.

[Boondocker]

Well I got quite a few sample boolits from 3 different forums I could not believe the response I got. I offered up a trade and only one fella wanted to try something I had ( Alladin). What a great bunch of cast shooters. I have 8 lbs of gifted Unique so I am work these up in the Marlin 336w of the grandsons. He will learn good on this rifle with light loads as he is 5 so in a couple years we shall be ready. He is pretty good with the Daisy Buck allready. I will buy a mold or three for this when we find the sweet ones. :castmine: Steve

[Rocky Raab]

It surprises people to hear (and some will not believe it) but Hercules made and advertised Unique as intended for reduced and gallery loads in rifles. That's absolutely true. I have copies of the loading pamphlets and have seen powder cans with that claim printed right on them.

That was unknown to me some 30 years ago when cobbled up my first reduced loads using Unique in my 308 Win. I was delighted with the results then, and have remained so ever since. I even wrote an article on it called "The Universal 30 Load."

http://www.reloadingroom.com/index_files/Universal%2030.htm

Lloyd Smale is correct that there are no truly "universal" loads, due to the almost extreme spread of case volumes, bullet weights and gun strengths. I personally think that 10.0 Unique is too hot a load for the 45 Colt for all but the very lightest bullets. But I'm a rather cautious reloader.

[jh45gun]

I think Unique is a great powder I use it for shotguns and for my 45 Colt loads. For Cast Rifle loads though I prefer 2400 as a "Universal Powder" I load for 30/30, 7.5 Swiss and 45/70 all using 2400.

[Boondocker]

Rocky thanks that is a great article and website. It is nice that folks like you share your experiences and knowledge. Speaking of 30 cal do you think this will do well in my m38 762x54 and 8mm as a start load. JH I think I have some 2400 down in the cabinet to give a try.:castmine: Steve

[Gerry N.]

My "standard" load in military bottlenecked cartridges from 6.5 Carcano to 8X57mm is a 1.3cc Lee dipper of Unique and whatever cast bullet I happen to have handy.

Several (very tasty) Coast Blacktail deer have died honorable deaths due to lead poisoning administered with .303 British caliber rifles loaded with this load and an as cast, tumble lubed, non checked wheelweight alloy 311299. These were administered at ranges as close as ten and as far as 75 yards. I've also snipped the heads off several grouse and ventilated some bunnies with it.

I propose that this qualifies it as a game load. The same load is equally effective in .30-06, 7.65 Arg. Mauser and .308 Win. (For .30-30 I drop to 1cc.) I never owned an Arisaka, but have no doubt it would be as good in that as well.

This load would make little clusters of holes I could cover with my palm at 50 yds from my $19.95 (1964) M91 Arg. Mauser long rifle with issue sights.

Universal cast Boolit load? Damn near.

Gerry N.

[jimkim]

Here's a new one.
Marlin 336CR
30-30win
55gr cast bullet loaded in sabot
10.0gr Unique
2400fps, 30fps deviation. Tested by Gunarea on CBA forum.

[Rocky Raab]

Boondocker, yes. Your 7.62x54 meets all the necessary provisos. You can use either the 13.0 RedDot or 10-12 Unique loads and be fine. If you can get enough bullet tension, you can even use those little Plinker bullets in it. They are soft enough to bump up nicely. I know several folks who use them in .310" 7.62x39 with quite good results.

[jh45gun]

Boondocker I am shooting 17 grains of 2400 in the 30/30 with a 170/180 grain cast bullet 20 grains in the 7.5x55 with the same bullet. I used 20 grains in 308 when I had a 308 barrel for my Enocre same bullet and I use 25 grains for my 45/70 and a 405 grain cast bullet.

[Boondocker]

Thanks Rocky and JH looks like I am going to have lots of fun tinkering with these loads. Now time to slug some barrels. Boon

[Franklin Zeman]

I use 10 Unique in 45-70 for a pumpkin roller fun plinker. A tuft of polyester makes it more accurate.

[357maximum]

[QUOTE=bcp477;433238] One could certainly assert that Unique is as "universal" a cast bullet powder as one can find - but, it's usefulness IS limited to very light loads. If one wishes to hunt anything larger than a rabbit....or do any target shooting much beyond 100 yards, then Unique is NOT a good choice.


No desire to "split hairs", but I just thought it important to qualify the concept of the "universal" powder for cast shooting.[/
QUOTE]

Too many forget what our forefathers were able to kill a deer regularly with I spose.

32/20, 32/40, 38-56, 22LR and the 22WMR have been the tool of the deed in alot of venison making in my neck of the woods over the ages. One should go and compare the ballistics of them with that of "the load".

BTW 8grs of unique in a 30/30 flatnose will pretty much split a hare right in half if taken amidshps.:p You must have some tough rabiit/hare/deer in your area. Personally I have yet to see one of them kevlar coats on a whitetail.

[thx997303]

Marlin Guide Gun
45-70
350 gr Ranch Dog .460" diameter
LLA/JPW dip lubed
15 gr Unique
50 yards.

http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll331/thx997303/100_1673.jpg

Now of course, this is the only group I've shot with that load, so it may be a fluke.

[AviatorTroy]

One of my very favorite and fun loads to shoot is the Lee 311-100-2R sized to .310 over 9 gr Unique in a Krag. Very light load and plenty accurate out to 100 yrds or so. I have no idea how fast its going, but it bet it's no slouch.

You guys shooting the .45-70 with 10 gr Unique and a 450 gr cast, would that load be suitable for a trap door or a Remington rolling block? I'm always very very conservative with loads for these things, but I've been thinking of trying the Unique load in them.
:coffee:

[358wcf]

In the past year, I've had to start shooting 4 old, but new-to-me rifles, all with cast boolits-- Calibers 30-30 (2 of 'em), 35Rem, and 38-55. You might say I appreciate well-seasoned calibers-- Anyway, after considerable research, in my extensive library of loading manuals, data, texts, etc, gathered over the past 40years of loading, I came up with the conclusion that a great starting load for each rifle was exactly 10.0 grains of Unique-- In each case, it worked out just great! Couldn't ask for anything simpler--
Unique has always been my "go-to" powder, in cast boolit rifle, revolver, and shotgun (I shoot mostly 28gauge, where it works very well). Yes, Unique (the old stuff) is a bit dirty, but I need to clean the guns after shooting anyway---
Unique is exactly what the name says--- believe it!

358wcf [smilie=1:[smilie=1:[smilie=1:

[Dutchman]

6.5x55 Swede m/38 @ 50 yds.
10.5 grs Unique
Lyman 140 gr 266469 .266".

As much as I like Unique I'm also going to work more with 700X and Reddot. I've had some really good initial results with 700X.

http://images41.fotki.com/v1580/photos/2/28344/157842/65x55140105Unique1b-vi.jpg

[indymadcaster]

i wonder about this in 762x39 with 125gr lead GC and 312 155 2r lee

[No_1]

Thank you Rocky and Lloyd for pointing out that this load is not for everything. When I started this thread I was thinking strickly common rifles, not magnum rifles although it may work there too and pistols were totally off the radar even though members have shown there are possibly some calibers that can use this load.
In the end there is no substitute for hard data from manuals or a call to the powder manufacturer for advice.

Robert

[rhead]

!0 grains of unique would be safe with any midsized rifle cartridge and any reasonable boolit. If it turned out to be the best load for that powder/boolit combination it would be a statistical anomaly.

There is no universal load. There is no universal load for 150 grain Lee flat nosed GC boolits fired in late model Marlin 336 in federal brass using Winchester LRP. Some of them will prefer a different load. The more you narrow it down the fewer exceptions but you still have to do the legwork.

[76 WARLOCK]

10GR of Unique in my BB94 375 is the most accurate load I have found, low recoil but at 100yds it makes a metal plate really dance.

[mroliver77]

Willbird and I once figured that 8gr Unique would safely work in most firearms. We looked up a bunch. Like has been said the 30-06 class needing more to burn efficiently. We went to Clays as it burned cleaner and was cheaper 10 - 15 years ago. One of the first loading manuals I ever had was a 1940's Lyman. It had Unique loads for about every caliber listed. I have burned a lot in my .45 acp's with great results.
Jay

[ph4570]

The wife's Winny 1885 38-55 is really fond of 9 grains of Unique under a LEE 250 gr slug. It gives 1200 FPS and sub 1" groups at 100 yards. I have not found as good of accuracy in my Browning 1885 45-70 with Unique. However, 13 grains and the Lyman 405 gr gives a pleasant shooter and about 21/2" at 100 yards. The most accurate plinker load I have yet to find for the Browning is 29 gr of 4198 under the Lyman 405gr. That gives consistent 1" groups at 100 yards. I have not yet measured that loads velocity.

[Freightman]

I got a new 03-A3 Remington and 10gr of Unique with a 185gr LEE boolit, with the sights set at 6 produced the last 15 shots here in 1.75" at 50 yds.
Not to shabby for a old rifle 1944, and a older shooter, by five years that is having to shoot left handed due to sight gone in right eye.

[.357]

6 grains of unique does my .45 acp happy.

[Intel6]

20 grs. under a .459" 500 gr. GC bullet is a great shooter in my .460 Weatherby Magnum chambered Ruger #1H.

Neal in AZ

[Ben]

Freightman :

I'd say that is pretty dog gone good shooting considering the conditions you've just described ! !

Ben

[Freightman]

I really have to work at it where I didn't use to when my eye worked. I bruised myself a lot learning how to position the rifle left handed, but the funny thing about it I actually have tightened some groups because I have to pay so close attention. Now I haven't got fast fire down at all.

[Snyd]

Unique is a great all around powder. All these loads are very fun and accurate.

454 Casull 255gr RNFP 9-11gr in Puma 92 Levergun. I just got a 275gr .452 LFN mould for the 454 Puma 92. first loads will probably be 10gr Unique. 45 Colt loads shoot well in my Puma 92 454 levergun as well.


For handguns- 44mag 240gr Keith 8gr Unique, 45 Colt 255gr RNFP 8-9gr, 45 Colt 200gr SWC 7-8gr, 38spc 150gr rn and swc, 4-5gr Unique, 158gr SWCHP 5-5.5gr. "FBI Load".

[richhodg66]

I am about to load some reduced loads for my son to shoot in his .308. I've done this a lot in the '06, .303 Brit and 7.62x54, not so much in the .308.

I am going to start with some Lyman # 311413s I had around and ten grains of Unique or SR7625. I also have some Herco. Anybody have any thoughts on one being better than the others?

[Boondocker]

Rich I have only used Unique so far for the grandsons 30/30 and it is a great light load powder, that and I got a 4 lber that someone gave the son inlaw. I have not tried any others yet and I am interested with what you come up with. Good luck with your load developement and have fun . Boon:grin:

[Boondocker]

OOPS double post

[atr]

Rich,,,,I have used the same mold (311413) in the .308 with 10-11 grains of Unique....seems to work well up to 50-75 yds....but the groups wander at 100 yds.

[Franklin Zeman]

Ten Unique works well in my 45-70 with a 300 grain cast. Nice easy, accurate, plinking load you can shoot all day. It is somewhat more accurate with a small wad of polyester in my gun.

[Shooter6br]

Unique (Universal Clays) is one of the most flexible powders>I use it in my 32 mag.45 acp. 41 mag 32 S&W long 45-70, military cast. Differant charges of course but works well,

[richhodg66]

Well, for these, I ended up going with 11.5 grains of SR7625 because I was running shorter of Unique than I thought. It still shot well enough to give the boy some worthwhile trigger time with his deer rifle. I need to cast a batch of 311291s and then I'll try the 10 grains of Unique for sure.

[Centaur 1]

I just got done reading everyones posts. The whole idea of having a light plinking load for my favorite rifle is awesome. I was given several hundred pound of free lead, and I just bought a .309 150gr fp mold. I'll now be able to shoot 1000 rounds for the price of 80 rounds of the cheapest Walmart ammo, and with no kick either. Thanks for all the info.

[gerrycan]

Guys, have alook at Hogdon,s Trail Boss powder light loads and good case fill.Gerry.

[excavman]

IMHO Trail Boss isn't quite as good for plinkers in rifle cases as Unique. Of course I may be a little biased since I been using Unique for 40 years. I do like TB in 44/45 pistol loads.

Larry

[thx997303]

Of course with TB you lose the economy of the unique loads.

[jimmeyjack]

10 grains of Unique in my .38-55 is a soft accurate load. I am still trying for a good load of TB.

[CENTEX BILL]

I am wondering would 10 gr unique work in a 25/06 with 120 gr cast bullets??

Bill

[lastborn]

anyone have a Unique plinking load for the 7mm-08 kimber bolt action 22" barrel?
Thanks

[Thecyberguy]

Would 10 grs of Unique be a good starting for the 234 and 6.5x55 with cast boolits?

[Eagles6]

17 grs of Unique behind a 160 gr g/c gives me 1-1.5" groups at 100 yds out of a Model 70 ought-6. Kicks like a 30-30.

[Freebore]

How about the Russian Unique powder? It seems to burn cleaner for me but I have not used it in rifle loads yet.

[DanWalker]

anyone have a Unique plinking load for the 7mm-08 kimber bolt action 22" barrel?
Thanks
I don't use unique in my 7mm08, but 16 grains of 2400 under a soupcan boolit is just DANDY.

[Shuz]

I am wondering would 10 gr unique work in a 25/06 with 120 gr cast bullets??

Bill

Can't say for sure, but yesterday,with my .250 Sav Mdl 16, I discovered that 9.5g of Unique and a Cramer 55A of 105g gave me a 1.1" 5 shot group at 100 yds. I haven't tried 10g yet, but 9.0g was not a good load. Since your case is quite a bit bigger, I think that 10g and a 120g cast would be safe.--Shuz

[Shooter]

17 grs of Unique behind a 160 gr g/c gives me 1-1.5" groups at 100 yds out of a Model 70 ought-6. Kicks like a 30-30.

I wonder if 17Gr. would be too hot in a .308 with a 314299?

[HMC710]

Been using Unique for years and Dad always says, "There is not a rifle in the world that won't shoot Unique and cast boolits!" Our new pet load....15 gr of Unique and 500 gr Lee cast boolits out of my BMG. Would like to experiment with making a mold and getting up to 700 gr. Anyone have a favorite 30 cal cast boolit for use in sub sonic loads?

[wiljen]

I wonder if 17Gr. would be too hot in a .308 with a 314299?

per QL it generates just shy of 50,000 PSI so not too hot but nearing top end. Should be about 1800fps or so.

[mroliver77]

I just reread some of the posts and noticed this one. you and I might be the only two on the planet that would shoot unique in a .50 BMG :)
Jay

Been using Unique for years and Dad always says, "There is not a rifle in the world that won't shoot Unique and cast boolits!" Our new pet load....15 gr of Unique and 500 gr Lee cast boolits out of my BMG. Would like to experiment with making a mold and getting up to 700 gr. Anyone have a favorite 30 cal cast boolit for use in sub sonic loads?

[HMC710]

:smile: You should see the looks I get when I unload it off the truck, set it up on the bench and people start hiding behind things. Then it goes Pop! [smilie=l:
Dad even wanted me to convert a few cases to LR primers so he didn't have to spend the $ for the big ones. But he's back to his 45-70 now - with Unique of course!

[kennisondan]

you used a 500 grainer and want to cast some 700 750 grainers ? I was wondering if the opposite was to be expected.. you 50 bmg enthusiasts start using bmg weight boolits cast yourself of something approaching 700 ??
that has been on my mind, and the thought of loading down a bmg occurred to me the other day too... lol...
I am more likely to try heavier 45 70 bullets than invest in the bmg just yet, but .. maybe.. one day . .lol..
I wonder.
dk

[swamp]

I use a 650gr +- in my rolling block 50-140 SS. It is a Hoch nosepour. It is listed in Midways catalog. Works just fine for me. It is a round nose style but in 50 BMG should be good for heavy boolit light loads.

swamp

[HMC710]

The BMG is definately not the most economical thing to shoot, but it is quite an experience. I would like to get up to the 700 gr range tho, as long as I don't have to do any throating. I run 400 gr hardcast in my Beowulf and it is an absolute sledgehammer. It has been throated and has not seemed to hurt the accuracy of the 334gr JHP that I run either. Just picked up a Lee 200gr RN mold to try some 30 cal stuff.

[thx997303]

Further testing with my 15 gr Unique load posted earlier has given me this group at 100 yards.

http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll331/thx997303/100_2661.jpg

And has proven sufficient for minute of prairie dog accuracy at 100 yards.

Unfortunately, it is a few inches high at 50 yards and less which made me miss on all the short range shots.

[powerglide]

Well all I know is my 44 mags never get anything but 240 grain pills and 10 grains of unique.Never needed more uump than that. I like 10 grains for 44's. Rifle or pistol, cast or jacketed.

[ddeaton]

Are you guys using any fillers with these loads? Reason for asking is I casted up some 165 grn boolits for my 308 would like some help with a load to start with. I have not shot any cast through my rifles yet.

[Shooter6br]

I tried 10 grains (universal) in my 45-70 at 50 yrds using 350 g Ranchdog, No recoil in my Ruger NO 1

[PB Guy]

10 grains of Unique, with a 250pb is a favorite plinking load of mine in the 38-55. It will duplicate the current Winchester factory ammo velocity of around 14-1450fps in my Marlin Cowboy.

Lyman 47 list 7.0-9.5 for their #375248, 249 grn boollit for the 38-55.
I shoot 375 Win with a 255 grn boolit and have been using Reloader 7, 2400, & IMR 4227 as their is not any loads listed for Unique in that caliber. I'm thinking about using the 38-55 data for my rifle. Thoughts?

I've had good success using Unique in other calibers so i'm looking for a load, using it for the 375 Win, with @ 250 grn boolit. Thanks.

Dick R

[frnkeore]

I'm a 10.0 gr believer, also. I use it in my 45/70 with a breech seated 410 gr bullet. Velocity is 974 fps in a 31", 20 twist barrel ES is 19 fps. Groups run .60 - .84 @ 100yds. I also use it in my S&W 625 45 Colt and Puma 92.

Frank

[rockrat]

Not to hijack the thread, but for you 50 bmg boys, Trail boss works well in mine with 850gr boolits @1600fps

[HMC710]

What 850 gr boolit are you using?

[peerlesscowboy]

10gr Unique pushing a Ly457191 from the .45-70 makes a good gopher load. The report is so quiet you can hear the hammer "clunk". You gotta pay attention tho' and only shoot when the gopher's looking away..........if he's looking at you he'll see that big bullet coming and he'll duck.

[kynardsj]

Have been reading this thread and really enjoying it. I'm about to start shooting cast in both of my 308 Encores. Ordered a pile of 165 gr RNFP plain base bullets and a Lyman M Die. My cast loadbook says to start at 10.0 Unique for 1368 fps and 23,400 cup and work up to 15.0 gr for 1816 fps and 37,700 cup. I shoot Unique in all my pistols, 38 Spl, 357 Mag, hot and mild 45 LC's. It would just be too cool to have a couple of 308's that loved it too.

[horneycoyote]

Current "fun" load in my Savage Varmint .223 is a 43 grain cast (no gas check), Federal neck sized once fired brass, CCI small rifle primer, being pushed by 2 (thats right-2) grains of Unique topped with 1 grain of pillow filler compressing powder onto the primer. Gives me 1045 fps and three shots into .135 center to center at 35 yards off of a solid rest. Sounds about like a loud finger snap!! Cost per round--about .04 cents. This is one for the advanced reloader and needs to be approached with utmost caution and care!!!!

[white eagle]

love it !!!!!!
tried 11.0 gr unique in my
358 win. under a new 200 gr
pb Mountain man Dan mold
spectacular bump it up a bit..... but what a blast

[SSGOldfart]

30-'06 with 12-14 depending on the "middle weight" bullet. well put Larry I use 11 or 12 unique for the 150-170gr 30-06 as a starting point

[SSGOldfart]

Current "fun" load in my Savage Varmint .223 is a 43 grain cast (no gas check), Federal neck sized once fired brass, CCI small rifle primer, being pushed by 2 (thats right-2) grains of Unique topped with 1 grain of pillow filler compressing powder onto the primer. Gives me 1045 fps and three shots into .135 center to center at 35 yards off of a solid rest. Sounds about like a loud finger snap!! Cost per round--about .04 cents. This is one for the advanced reloader and needs to be approached with utmost caution and care!!!!

I'll have to give this a try in my Rem 700:cbpour:

[beex215]

ive used 8g in 308 and the results were good but the distance was a meager 55 feet. but its still fun with this plinking load.

[Marvin S]

Staying with the ten grain weight, I use that in my antique 94 win 38-55 with a 250ish grain boolit also the 30WCF with the 150ish grain boolit. My 92 38WCF loves 8.0 gr of the magic flakes.

[donald duck]

Enjoyed reading all your comments about Unique. I load 5.0 to 5.2 grains Unique behind a 120 grain cast GC bullet in my 7 MM TCU, both T/C and rifle. Yes I have a 7MM TCU rifle. A Shilen barrel on a Savage Axis Rifle.
Also load the 120 grain cast bullet in 7 X 57 Ruger # 1, 14 grains 5744 is great.
In 7 MM WSM 18 grains 5744 is nice light fun and accurate load.
Accurate tells me they have a new powder Ano2 I believe it is called. Has anyone had any experience using it???? Your comments are appreciated!! dd

[rexherring]

10 grs is a little stout in my .45 LC, I use 8 grs with a 255 RCBS cast for targets. I do use 10 grs of Unique with a 170 Lee in my .30-30 for fire forming them into .30-30 improved cases.

[Silvercreek Farmer]

Dang, I just bought a can of Red Dot!

[DeanWinchester]

I know this will get me crucified upside down for asking but......could one use the 10g rule to safely throw jacketed bullets?

I have a semi legit reason for asking. As an ametuer survivalist and major general couch commando, I am always looking for ways/things to stash. I have thought of trying to build a reloading kit that could fit into a 50 Cal can. Using tools like a lee hand press or lymans 310. The biggest deal is powder. Unique may not be the best at anything, but its pretty darn good for everything. I can't think of a better SHTF powder to stash. I have Unique loads developed for all my pistol cartridges. The only rifles I really care about are 308, 30/30 and. 223. I have not tried unique in 223 because I don't cast for my ARs.

Any thoughts?

[DeanWinchester]

Anyone?

[dnotarianni]

10 gr works in 500S&W but 16gr lets you know you pulled the trigger
Dave

[jim147]

Anyone?

Hodgdon lists a Clays load for 55 gr FMJ, so I think you should be able to work up a jacketed load with Unique.

It won't come close to cycling the bolt. But it will shoot.

jim

[DeanWinchester]

I was more so talking about a jacketed bullet in 308 over Unique. I think I'm just going to have to try it. I have some 168g soft points that I wasn't planning on using for anything.

[Chamfered]

I like the 8 - 9 rain range of Unique for most of my cast pistol loads for 44's. I've done a little experimenting with it in my 30-30 but didn't have alot of luck. I was using it the checked bullets though and figure that is where the issue was. The same checked bullets shoot good when throttled up, I still need to get some plain base design and try again but developing "light" loads for the rifle is lower on the time / priority list.
That being said, Unique is one of my must have powders in the reloading room though. Its just too flexible not to have on hand.

[blackbike]

chamfered, try that 7-8 unique load for 30-30 with out the GC.
Workes good for me.

[wiljen]

I would try closer to 15gr of unique in the 308 if you are going to use jacketed bullets and be very careful that you don't have a bullet left in the bore after any shot. Jacketed bullets take more umphh to push down the bore and are more likely to create a barrel obstruction with very light loads. 10gr in the 308 in Quickload predicts it at about 1400fps. 15gr is closer to 1800 which is more in my comfort zone. Remember unique is going to build pressure much more quickly than velocity so the maximum you can safely get will be somewhere about 2000 fps at 20gr of Unique. Go over 20gr and you are into 60,000+ PSI loads.

[Larry Gibson]

8.5 gr Unique under a 165 HPBT in the .308W is a good subsonic load at about 1050 - 1100 fps. I've shot lots of them but I wouldn't go lower because it's easy to sick a jacketed bullet in the barrel. I've also shot a lot of 123 sks jacketed in the .308W, .303, 6.65 Argie, 7.7 Jap and the '06 loaded over 12 - 16 gr Unique depending on cartridge capacity.

Many years ago I developed what I call my Panama load for the 5.56. We had M16A1s with 12" twists and m193 ammo. I'd use a pair of blasting cap crimpers to gently loosen and pull the bullets and dump the powder. I'd then pull a bullet with 2 TL's (wire cutters) from either the 9mm or 45 rounds and put the pistol powder in the 5.56 case. The M193 bullet was pushed in backwards and crimped in place with the blasting cap crimper pliers. Velocity was 1500+ fps and accuracy was really pretty good to 25 - 50 yard max shot in the jungle. I used the long range sight aperture and the zero was surprisingly close. Of course it did not function the action but they did feed from the magazine. Sounded about like and M14 with blanks or the m16 without the blank adapter with blanks. I did a lot of hunting around Gatun(SP?) Lake and river and up in the mountains. Aleays had fresh meat for the team and the 'diges.

Larry Gibson

[45-70Govt]

I have a number of 140 gr GCFN I want to use in a 308 W. I don't have any data for that weight bullet in my books.
I have Unique, Trail Boss, Blue Dot, 2400 SR4759 and IMR 4198 as fast powders. Any recommendation? I'm shooting for 30-30 velocities.( approx 2000fps)

[Freischütz]

13 gr of Unique works well in my 03A3. Today I shot a 20 round group at 50 yards that was about 1.5 inches.

But like any powder, it will produce better results in some guns than in others. It does make a nice starting point for full sized rifle cases.

[paul h]

I've used unique in my 35 whelen ackley and 500 Jeffrey. I found 10gr to be a bit lighter than ideal in the whelen, and the jeffrey was burning quite a bit more.

In my 480 ruger, the most accurate of many accurate loads I worked up was 9.7 gr of unique under a 310 gr lfn cast for 950 fps. If I was a better shot I have no doubt it was a 1 moa load.

[mace2364]

Anybody tried this 10gr thing with 8x50R Lebel?

[MasS&W]

.35 remington likes 10-15 grains for most cast bullets. 10 is usually a starting point or plinking load.

[30calflash]

I know this will get me crucified upside down for asking but......could one use the 10g rule to safely throw jacketed bullets?

I have a semi legit reason for asking. As an ametuer survivalist and major general couch commando, I am always looking for ways/things to stash. I have thought of trying to build a reloading kit that could fit into a 50 Cal can. Using tools like a lee hand press or lymans 310. The biggest deal is powder. Unique may not be the best at anything, but its pretty darn good for everything. I can't think of a better SHTF powder to stash. I have Unique loads developed for all my pistol cartridges. The only rifles I really care about are 308, 30/30 and. 223. I have not tried unique in 223 because I don't cast for my ARs.

Any thoughts?

There was a short story in the American Rifleman on Unique as a universal powder written by Ed Harris several years ago. Handgun, some shotgun and rifle loads were all listed. Cast and jacketed with charge weight and approximate velocities were listed also.

The jacketed loads listed used light to medium weight bullets to keep the velocity up.

I'll see if I can find the date of the RM that had the info.

[30calflash]

There was a short story in the American Rifleman on Unique as a universal powder written by Ed Harris several years ago. Handgun, some shotgun and rifle loads were all listed. Cast and jacketed with charge weight and approximate velocities were listed also.

The jacketed loads listed used light to medium weight bullets to keep the velocity up.

I'll see if I can find the date of the RM that had the info.

Found it. November, 1980, American Rifleman. It was also in the NRA Cast Bullet supplement that came out a few years after the Cast Bullet book from the NRA.

[spotsboss]

10gr Unique pushing a Ly457191 from the .45-70 makes a good gopher load. The report is so quiet you can hear the hammer "clunk". You gotta pay attention tho' and only shoot when the gopher's looking away..........if he's looking at you he'll see that big bullet coming and he'll duck.

:grin:

[gamma50]

I tried 5.5 grs. in a 1917 with Lees CTL312-160-2R and that was fun at 25 yards,
sounds like a low fps .38 load, and I wondered if it would plug the barrel, 8# would last
for ever, I use 12 grs. for hotter load, a .30 cal. 22LR load?
:-)

[jason f]

Anybody try unique in the 300 blackout yet for heavy sub loads

[HMC710]

For my Lee 200gr cast load I started with 5gr of Unique and 8gr of Lil Gun. I just got the new Lee 220gr "Blackout" boolit but haven't had a chance to cast any yet.

[seanhagerty]

I have pressure tested 10-12gr of Unique in my 260 rem with my cruise missles w/gc's. They all shot fine. This would work great with a surpressor......

[jason f]

I have an h&r single shot 300 blackout. I am casting with the noe 311-247 mold. I have been using 9.5 grains lilgun but I would like to find a load using unique powder since I have an abundance of it and most places sell it.

[HMC710]

I've also got a 247gr 30 cal bore rider from NOE, nice mold. I was using AA #9 with a charge of 5.6 to 6 gr depending on seating depth. A charge of 5gr of Unique should get you in the ball park and use your chronograph from there.

[jaysouth]

I've had good results loading handgun cartridges with HS-6, which has roughly the same burning rate as Unique. Has anyone experimented with this powder for reduced cast loads? In my experience HS-6 meters better than Unique and burns cleaner.

Thanks

[saintdel]

I've generally relied on 16g of 2400 as my "universal" load in the medium case 30's. Just seems to work. Not for 7.62x39. It's a bit heavy too for 30-30. Unique can work too with lower charges, e.g. 10g, but I find 2400 more consistent and cleaner burning. I just acquired some Red Dot which I used with very good results long ago, going to try Harris' 13g "universal" load in my 303, 06 etc.

[TXGunNut]

OK, talked me into it. I have a 94 in 32WS and I'm looking for a hunting load but thinking a plinking load would be fun. After loading a few RX7 try loads for this rifle and a thutty thutty today I loaded five more try loads with Universal powder, from 8-10 grs in .5 gr intervals. Wasn't going to but I found a few lbs of Universal that I'd forgotten about. I doubt I'll ever hunt with this rifle as it's equipped with receiver peep sights and a globe front sight but it's a sweet old rifle and a plinker load will be fun. Cool thing about Unique/Universal loads w/ CB's is we're shooting centerfire rifles as cheaply as centerfires.
OTOH I can't see why a 175gr boolit @ 1500 fps or so can't take care of business with a S TX whitetail.

[TXGunNut]

My 32WS seemed to like 8.5 of Universal under the RD 323-170(180). Printed about 9" lower than the RX7 load I was trying @ 50 yds. Very enjoyable, glad I found a few extra pounds of this stuff on my shelf.

[donald duck]

My favorite cast load in my 7MM TCU is 5.3 grains of Unique behind a 120 grain cast GC bullet.
The 120 grain is from two old Lyman Ideal moulds. Shoot them in two T/C barrels as well as my Savage Axis rebarreled to 7mm TCU. The Shilen barrel is very accurate, light weight, and just plain fun to shoot.

[John L]

I have a lot of Badman 135gr 0.309 dia LFN bullets at 15 BHN.
So far I haven't found a good load for my Marlin 336 30-30 nor the Savage 1899 300 Savage. Anybody had an luck with this bullet in these rifles?
Would appreciate any info at all.

John

[YunGun]

Tried a new load recently that showed some promise:
131gr GC CB w/LLA over 10gr Unique + WLRM - recoil is about like a .22, so would make a fun plinker round for young/recoil-sensitive shooters.
70589

[DeanWinchester]

A good friend bought a 450 marlin recently. I ain't shooting that thing with my bum shoulder! I can't find data for it but was just curious if the good ole 10.0g of Unique would work with a cast boolit in this thing? I'd be up for shooting that!

I reload for him and I need to come up with a plinker load so he can get out and enjoy the rifle without being abused.

[John L]

Has anyone had any luck in a 30-30 with the 135 grain FP, BHN 15, .0.309 diameter bullet from Badman Bullets? I got a lot of leading in the 8 to 10 grains of Unique range and the 15 to 20 grains of A5744 range with 3 inch or better groups at 50 yards. Trail Boss worked but couldn't get groups to settle down. Down around 7 grains of Unique groups went under 3 inches. Bullseye didn't work out too well either. Got a lot of smoke with the 5744 in the 18 to 20 grain range. Groove diameter on both Marlin 336 30-30s is 0.308 inch. help

[NLS1]

Well I had to try the 10 gr unique load. I had some NOE 165 gc boolits I cast a while ago, and had not loaded up. In fact I had not hand loaded for my 30-30 at all yet. 1949 Marlin 336 I picked up a year or two ago!

Anywho, buddy calls Wednesday, says hey you wanna go shoot tomorrow? Um, of course. Spent that night loading 30-30 with 10gr Unique, 165 NOE gas check-drops at 173 with 50/50, gc, and lube. Lubed with my beeswax/fluid-film home brew lube, sized .311.

What a hoot! I am not a real great iron sight rifle shooter, and didn't expect much on the first go round. Had hanging 8" round plates at 25, 50, 75, 100 yards. Whaddya know, I can hit a 8" plate, standing, with iron sights with the old 30-30 at 100 every time! I didn't shoot for groups, that was not the goal this time. Only had 45 rounds, but I could shoot hundreds of rounds of that load in a day, absolutely mellow recoil, and totally sufficient accuracy for deer. Zero leading, clean bore, and the only issue I had was that some of them were snug and I really had to squeeze the lever to get it to close. Might have to change something, but that is another thread.

I could hold dead on at 25-100 and it would hit every time. Lousy trigger, operator, slightly out of whack sights and all. Good enough for me, heck I can hardly see the target at 100 past the brass bead, yet if I held still enough it would smack that plate every time. Looks like I could hit the broad side of a barn from inside after all. Wish I could use a rifle where I hunt deer, would love to bloody that old Marlin.

Dan

[TCLouis]

10.5 grains of a Milsurp powder I have (No, not Russian Unique) #105 (yes there are two with this designation and far FAR apart in relative speed)) that I got from Jeff mimics Unique to a T and placed behind RCBS 325 grain or Ranch Dog 350 grainer in the 45 -70 moseys along at 1100 fps or so and stacks them right in there.

[RonLyke]

Probably too much for a 32-20 in a '73 Winchester, I would think. Anybody experiment with this caliber?

[texassako]

I like plunking with 2 different rifles with Unique. 7.62x54r and .30-40 Improved both prefer a little more powder at 11 gr and the Lyman 311334 bullet. I get some interesting looks on the 100 yard range with the funny looking and sounding ammo.

92378

[badguybuster]

Unique has got to be one of the most versatile powders out there. I use it in everything from my 357 mag, 44 spl, up to 45-70

[kaptain kartridge]

I load 15.0grs in .30-06 with 174gr lee and gas check, get excellent accuracy with 1903a3, and use 12.0grs in No4Mk1 Enfield with lee 180gr with gas check sized .309, and .311. I weigh my cast bullets to +/- 1.0grs
and they stay in "9" ring on SR-1 targets @ 100yards. I also shoot indoors on 50' range with same rifles, but with 6.0grs and 150gr cast bullet no gas check. Velocity is about 900-1100fps.

[like it all]

8565110.5 grs of Unique behind a 255 gr gas check Lachmiller design .429 SWC. Chronied at 1138 av., sd. of 14, es. was 21. Fired from a 5 1/2 " Red hawk at 20 yds. from a bench rest. I wouldn't hesitate taking a deer at 50-75 yds. with it.

[PS Paul]

8565110.5 grs of Unique behind a 255 gr gas check Lachmiller design .429 SWC. Chronied at 1138 av., sd. of 14, es. was 21. Fired from a 5 1/2 " Red hawk at 20 yds. from a bench rest. I wouldn't hesitate taking a deer at 50-75 yds. with it.

Nice pic with some great results, man.

[FergusonTO35]

I have a Marlin 1895 with 22" barrel and a bunch of 300 grain boolits. I wonder if I could use Unique to safely get it up to 1500 fps? I would rather not spend my scarce stock of rifle powder on mild loads right now.

[like it all]

I don't see any Unique loads for the 45-70 anywhere.

[jumbeaux]

I don't see any Unique loads for the 45-70 anywhere.

Starting with page one there are several 45-70 loads sir...great info and reading...

rick

[like it all]

The Lyman manual seems to peak out at about 1400fps with Unique for an 1895. My answer should have been more specific to your question. 2400 would be a better choice.

[grampa243]

I don't see any Unique loads for the 45-70 anywhere.

15 grains of unique behind a 165grain round ball sized to .458 for fun shooting in 45-70 :)

[badbill2]

I would like to know also. Badbill2

[bigted]

I shoot 10 grains Unique in my 45-70 for a 405 treat. also load 12 grains in my rem roller with the 43 Spanish chamber for a good time. very nice powder and cheap to plink with.

[FergusonTO35]

I have a nearly full can of IMR SR4756. Wonder how well that one would work?

[FergusonTO35]

Last night I loaded up a handful of .45-70's with 12 grains of Unique and 300 grain boolits. Hopefully I can try 'em out this weekend. I'm going powder shopping in Lexington after work, maybe I can get lucky and find some 4198.

[oger]

Use 10 grains with a 300 gr cast in my TC super 16, 45-70 mainly for the lack of recoil.

[Iowa Fox]

13 grains of Unique under a 456192 for me. That old Ideal drops WW at .4625 weighing 350 gr. Shoots well in everything I own.

[jimwill48]

Anybody tried this load or maybe a bit more say 15 gr Unique in the 7mm Rem Mag...

[YunGun]

Don't have a 7mm Rem Mag, but ~15gr works fairly well in my 30-06.
I've found the Lyman 44 manual (http://www.castpics.net/LoadData/OM/Lyman44.pdf) archived on the 'CastPics' site to be a good cast load data source in addition to their newer 'Cast Bullet Handbook'.

[9w1911]

10grns in my 44mag lever

[opos]

Have a general question about commercial cast lead projectiles. I'm a bit disabled and not able to cast myself but have noticed that Montana Bullets has quite a selection of gas checked projectiles in 30 cal and in 7.62...they sell varying diameters (example is in the 7.62 they have .311-.314 available...I will slug the bores on anything I want to shoot with cast lead)...they have the molds used to cast the projectiles and quite a selection...Would a commercial cast gas checked rifle bullet be a good "candidate" for the "10 grain Unique" situation? I load lots of handgun with Unique and have lots of it as well as Trail Boss...I'm just looking for light plinking loads to let my Wife enjoy a bit of rifle shooting but not getting knocked on her butt. I realize that 10 grains is a starting point and my main question concerns using gas checked boolits and I think they probably are fairly hard (18 or so)...I shoot light loads without checks in handguns but use a 12 hardness or less for most of my lighter loads....just looking for some direction in lead/Unique/gas checks with commercial cast boolits...thanks
opos

[wlc]

Have a general question about commercial cast lead projectiles. I'm a bit disabled and not able to cast myself but have noticed that Montana Bullets has quite a selection of gas checked projectiles in 30 cal and in 7.62...they sell varying diameters (example is in the 7.62 they have .311-.314 available...I will slug the bores on anything I want to shoot with cast lead)...they have the molds used to cast the projectiles and quite a selection...Would a commercial cast gas checked rifle bullet be a good "candidate" for the "10 grain Unique" situation? I load lots of handgun with Unique and have lots of it as well as Trail Boss...I'm just looking for light plinking loads to let my Wife enjoy a bit of rifle shooting but not getting knocked on her butt. I realize that 10 grains is a starting point and my main question concerns using gas checked boolits and I think they probably are fairly hard (18 or so)...I shoot light loads without checks in handguns but use a 12 hardness or less for most of my lighter loads....just looking for some direction in lead/Unique/gas checks with commercial cast boolits...thanks
opos

Not an expert by any means, but i'd say cast boolits are cast boolits, more or less. If all I has were commercial cast and wanted to load them with unique then I would. Follow all the safety precautions etc etc.

[Socal147]

SW 500 Magnum
350 gn LFP over anywhere from 8 grains (extremely light) to 14 grains (waking up) Unique. 10 grains of unique kicks like a light 357 load.

[Walstr]

9gr Unique, 45-70-405, Marlin 1895GS--Loaded up 60 rnds of plinkers & some for 'fire lapping'. My wife was plinking with her 22LR Henry & commented my rifle sounds different, did I break it? I explained what I was doing different, i.e. not shooting 41gr of IMR3031. She agreed to shoot it & voila [sp] looking at me grinning from ear to ear, "This is what a rifle should feel like, AND I can actually see the darn holes...got any more bullets?" It's a great feeling to stand back & supply your life's partner joy, 405 gr at a time!

Recoil was non-existent with these very light loads, purposely slow for the fire lapping process per Beartooth Bullets. Also in response to an older post in this thread, Unique is safe laying/lieing
down in a partially filled case, UNLIKE many other powders. It's magical properties don't turn it into a pipe bomb!
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Related topic: I'm using 6gr-6.3gr Unique for 45LC Cowboy shooting, but think I would like to try a more consistently metered, non-flake powder, that's also SAFE for very reduced loads. Please advise. [I know I most likely can't find what your recommending, but it's something I can watch out for!] Thanks for watching.

[Hooker53]

I'm a nub when it comes to casting boolits for a rifle and been a while for any casting. With that, I'm wondering at what speeds/loads would you want to start GC? My main interest is .38 SP and .357 Mag. Thanks and great thread.

Roy.

[Sgtonory]

I'm a nub when it comes to casting boolits for a rifle and been a while for any casting. With that, I'm wondering at what speeds/loads would you want to start GC? My main interest is .38 SP and .357 Mag. Thanks and great thread.

Roy.

No need to GC with pistol calibers. I shoot full magnum loads with all PB boolits with alloy around 11BHN.

[james23]

I had some 71 grain 32 auto hornandy's that I loaded in the 303 with 8.5 grain Unique. For the 12 old son the load is definitely easy to shoot. Gets them good practice without the kick.

[35 shooter]

10 gr. unique behind a 296 gr. pb in 35 whelen...2.2" @ 100 yds. for 5 shots. That was my first try and i'm gonna work up from there and see what happens. Some old chrono data i saw says 1257 fps. All i know is it dug a big hole in a hard clay and gravel bank....not exactly a pipsqueek load. Light load maybe, but still lethal at 100 yds.

[FlatTop45LC]

My favorite handload - and I use a bunch - is for my 45 Long Colt.

Starline case, WLP, 255 grain Keith and 9 grains of Unique.

It offers great accuracy and plenty of killing power in my Ruger Flat Top 4 5/8" 45 LC.

[HMC710]

A big +1 for that!
and you can drop it down to 7 gr for tin cans.

[FlatTop45LC]

You are quite right HMC!

I loaded around 250 up with 8 grains to plink with and it doubled my group size, so I just load them all at 9 grains and let it eat!

[TCLouis]

10.5 grains behind Ranch Dog 365 grainer out of 1886 and Remington RB yields 1100 fps which can be compared to loads that have been known to penetrate smaller game animals.

10.5 was the stopping . . . . actually was the end point only, because higher loadings was less accurate.

[R1valdez]

Anybody tried 10grs of unique over a lee 312 155gr bullet on a 300 blackout?

[NWFLYJ]

Great timing! I will have my 300blk in about a week.

[Jupiter7]

Anybody tried 10grs of unique over a lee 312 155gr bullet on a 300 blackout?

That'd be a tad too much most likely.

[shoot-n-lead]

I have tried using 10.0 grains of Unique in my Ruger 44 mag with little success and used the same load in my Marlin 1894 44 mag and it wasn't good at all. Maybe I'm just not using the right boolit or load though. I'm having a lot better luck with 296 as far as the 44 mag is concerned.

Boy, that is the truth for me also, concerning the 1894...mine shoots Unique loads into groups that look like a shotgun pattern.

[R1valdez]

That'd be a tad too much most likely.
What would be a starting load for that?

[ipijohn]

Great timing! I will have my 300blk in about a week.

By my way of thinking Unique is a little fast to cycle a semi-auto. Don't know if the powder will fit under a 312-155. I shoot 1680 and 4227, do very well with both and they are available locally. On another note, I do load 10 grn of Unique in 41 mag, 44 mag, 30-06, 30-30 and 270 for plinking loads for the grand kids.

[sfcairborne]

My 308 loves 11.5 grains and the lyman 311041 173 grainer, one ragged hole all day long at 75 yards

[Jupiter7]

What would be a starting load for that?

It won't cycle, not even close. Strictly a single shot proposition. No real advice for supersonic with unique as I've only used it in subs with my bolt gun and heavy boolits. But, 7.62x39 data with that boolit is published in Lyman's 49th. I'd be afraid to extrapolate a near max load being 300blk is a smaller case, lyman data shows max load of 9.5grs in the x39 and starting at 7.8. I used 5.5grs with 245's in the 300 for a subsonic load and that was dug up from old whisper data. If I had to start somewhere it'd be around 6grs with the 312-155.

[NWFLYJ]

^^^^^^7.2 gns of Unique cycles my 1911 45 acp. I know the ar two different animals. Have you tried it and it did not cycle, or are you talking hypothetical? I don't expect it to perform supersonic, just hoping to plink. I went with a pistol length gas system.

[R1valdez]

It won't cycle, not even close. Strictly a single shot proposition. No real advice for supersonic with unique as I've only used it in subs with my bolt gun and heavy boolits. But, 7.62x39 data with that boolit is published in Lyman's 49th. I'd be afraid to extrapolate a near max load being 300blk is a smaller case, lyman data shows max load of 9.5grs in the x39 and starting at 7.8. I used 5.5grs with 245's in the 300 for a subsonic load and that was dug up from old whisper data. If I had to start somewhere it'd be around 6grs with the 312-155.
That was my plan was to just shoot it bolt action style until my h110 powder comes in. Thanks again.

[35Whelen]

Gentlemen.

I have read the sticky on 10 grains of Unique being the universal load...however I didn't find much of the 358 Win. Doing a search really didn't reveal much. I am wondering what others experience have been with this powder in the 358 Win. I am loading an Accurate 360-240A which comes in at 238 grains checked and lubed. I feel comfortable starting at 10 grains, but wondering what others have found was a load nearing acceptable pressure levels? I have used Unique in my 45-70 and they were fun to shoot, easy on the pocket book and allowed me loads of shooting when powder was near impossible to find.

Thanks.

[Ben]

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[FlatTop45LC]

Nice shooting Ben

[Sherlok]

Regarding subsonic Unique cast loads in the .300 Whisper (Blackout), after hundreds of rounds fired over a an indoor chronograph using all of the recommended powders I acquired for developing jacketed loads, the best load for the 210 grain Lyman 311299 cast bullet turned out to be 5.5 grains of good old Unique. Averaging 1,020 fps it produced the smallest extreme spread of only 22 fps and grouped about 1 1/2 moa. A tight twist is needed to stabilize it (mine is 7.5) and it is indeed quiet through a can.

I have a J.D. Jones upper with two position gas valve and it will operate the action most of the time, but using the smaller orifice results in single shot mode and is slightly more accurate. It is the load I shoot 90% of the time.

Note: 1,020 fps is a good suppressor load because of the shot to shot variations that can take you up into the noise region especially in cold, dense air. - Sherlok

[dsh1106]

OK, I've got to ask.

Have any of you 338 Winchester Mag shoots tired Unique? if so what how many grains for what weight bullet?


Thanks
Scott

[oldblinddog]

I'm putting together a .338 Win Mag on a Mark X action and will be working on a load soon. With RCBS 33-200-FN 19.5 gr is Max. I would start with 17.0 and work up.

Edited to add: Lyman #3 says:

From a Winchester Model 70 24" barrel

338320 203 gr. 14.0 gr. 1400 fps 19.5 gr. 1705 fps
33889 249 gr. 14.0 gr. 1245 fps 19.0 gr. 1510 fps

Edited again to add: I have a Lyman 33889 mold (NIB) on the way and will report results.

[Hamish]

Although 10gr was very respectable, 14gr was better today. NOE 312440, MML+, .308 Bellm in the Handi Rifle with 1.25x32 Tasco. I would imagine results would be better if the barrel locked up tighter with this old 10ga frame, but I'm pleased.

136953

[DRSLYR]

Unique Powder was the first powder I ever used for reloading. I loaded for my .44 magnum--did not work well in my Ruger Super Blackhawk. I didn't shoot groups, I shot "patterns". Anyway, I gave the Unique to a buddy & I've never used it again.


DRSLYR

[frankmako]

i was looking for a lite load in a marlin 1894 44 mag to shoot at the chickens and pigs during the nra pistol cartridge cowboy lever action matches. so I go to unique to start the hunt. all ways heard that 10gr of unique is the cast load gold standard. i have been using 2400 and/or h110 for all of my 44 mag needs for many mango seasons in the nra pistol silhouette game with a 270gr cast lead gas check boolit. i use the pistol load in the lever gun cowboy game. so today i came up with three loads for my home made 270gr cast lead gas check boolits. ran the loads across the chronograph,,,, 8.0gr @ 1,095 fps, 8.5gr @ 1,143 fps, and 9.0 @ 1,193 fps. all three loads are easy on the shoulder. looks like i need to do some at 10gr of unique just to see. all loads will go on paper to see best group.

[ncbluedot]

Got to add my 2 cents to this long sticky since I used it with very good results. 10 grains of Unique under a cruise missile in a 1895 sporterized Swedish Mauser. Very accurate at 50 and 100 yards. Slow enough to make my 1/4" steel plate sing without damage and the missile makes really cool looking splatter pattern. Lastly, love the low recoil which makes my shoulder happy.

[artz]

does anyone use Unique in the 50 A.E. in a revolver?

[dnotarianni]

does anyone use Unique in the 50 A.E. in a revolver?

Use it in 500 mag. 20gr with a 375gr gas check bullet or 16gr with a gas check 475gr bullet

[tdoyka]

mine is a tc encore in 444 marlin(23" mgm barrel) and for unique its 11.5gr . a 250gr mihek hp at 50 yards.

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i still gotta try 30-40 krag and the 44 mag/44 special.

[edadmartin]

What would the load data be using unique in a ruger 22 hornet? Safe or no?

[iplaywithnoshoes]

191473

Some random charges I chose and stuck with. Both circled are actually 5 shot groups at 100yds. Rifle is a 27" .45-70 Encore fitted with 1903 sights.

shoe

[Texas by God]

Unique Powder was the first powder I ever used for reloading. I loaded for my .44 magnum--did not work well in my Ruger Super Blackhawk. I didn't shoot groups, I shot "patterns". Anyway, I gave the Unique to a buddy & I've never used it again.


DRSLYR
And then there's about a million of us who consider it the most versatile powder on the planet. You should borrow some and try it again with all due respect.

[tdoyka]

i like to use unique in my ruger sbh(4 5/8" barrel) in 44 mag. it does great whether i'm using a 44 mag or a 44 sp. i have tried 220gr wc, 250gr mihek hp, 275gr ranch dog and 280gr wfn with my sbh and a can of unique.

[toallmy]

I really need to start casting for the long guns .

[map55b]

I user 9-12 grains of unique in 41 Swiss, 38-55, 45-70 and 35 Remington. Seems to work great for what I call tin can loads.

[Smk SHoe]

Thinking of doing the same with a 6.5X47 Lapua bench gun. Criterion barrel mounted to a savage PTA. Only have steel plates out to 200 yards at the house. Would be nice to ring the plates without killing the wallet. Mostly informal trigger time. Berger and Nosler CC bullets are expensive. Gun is in parts on the bench, need to get it back up and running.

[James Wisner]

Well my 13 year old son shot his first cast boolits.

Remington 788 in 30-30 with a Lyman # 311440, 150 flat nose using 10.0 gr of Unique

He said he loved the smell of it and asked what was that smell, am using White label 50/50 lube.
Figure I have a winner both in the Son and load.

JW

[jmort]

"Figure I have a winner both in the Son and load."

Yes indeed

[arlon]

At LGS and they had some powder on sale. Got an 8lb jug of unique for $170. Not a steal but with powder prices these days I figured it would do. Haven't used unique much lately but I guess I'll be using some now. I've only used it in handguns, maybe time to try some rifle loads too. Guess I need to find a sale on cleaning rags.. (-:}

[Texas by God]

Unique's advantages far outweigh its supposed dirtiness. IMO/E.
You'll use all 8# eventually!

[P Flados]

Did an order from Powder Valley on Black Friday (free shipping).

I knew I wanted 4 jugs total with two jugs of Promo & one jug of Titegroup based on existing loads I want to keep.

I also wanted a mid range powder. I am cheap, so I was looking at 800X ($126.95), BE-86 ($129.95) & Sport Pistol ($126.95). These are all cost effective and have reports of good performance.

The 800x eventaully got tossed as it has reports of being about the worst metering of all pistol powders.

Eventually, BE-86 & Power pistol got tossed due to lack of load data.

Jug #4 ended up being Unique at $132.95.

I have never run out since I started realoding in the 70's.

I trust it to do what I want and there is plenty of both load data and "field test" reports.

Looks like it will start getting used more regular again.

Oh and by the way, darn it is nice to go shopping for powder & find all of what I want in stock again.

[Maven]

Very late to this thread, but Unique is, how shall I say, unique, but not 10 grains. Here's some information: I know this is an old question, but since I use Unique with cast bullets in several different caliber rifles, I think I can provide some guidelines re how much to use: To wit, in .30cal. rifles with plain base CB's between 140gr. - 180gr., I use 8.5 - 9.0gr. For GCCB's, 12.0gr. - 12.5gr. is extremely accurate with 175gr. - 205gr. boolits. (This includes both my .30-06, 7.62 x 54R, and 8 x 57mm Mau.) For my .243Win. (Ruger #1) with 87gr. CB's, 9.0 - 10.0gr. Unique -> m.o.a. accuracy. Btw, as I only shoot paper, I consider the higher charges to be maximum though by no means dangerously so.


P.S. 10.0gr. Unique also works very well in the 6.5 x 55mm Swedish Mau. with 130gr. - 140gr. CB's

[Shooter6br]

Universal is also a good choice

[smokeywolf]

Used to shoot a 405 grain boolit with 10 grains of Unique in the trapdoor. Rainbow trajectory, but pretty nice group at 100 yards.

[Shawlerbrook]

Works in my Marlin 1893 38 55.

[donald duck]

I am currently using Unique to load my 7MM TCU behind 120 grain cast bullets. I have had good (great) accuracy with 5.2 grains. I am only shooting at 25 yards with both T/C contender 10 and 14 inch barrels and my Savage Axis re-barreled to 7 MM TCU with a Shilen Barrel.

[KVO]

210097

NOE clone of the Lyman 266469 out of a 6.5x55 Mauser 98 sporter w/ 4x optics. 10.0gr of Unique hasn't always been the magic in my rifles, but it was magic enough in this one. I will add that is is a very finicky rifle and I'm lucky to get the same accuracy with match grade jacketed bullets.

[donald duck]

Just acquired a 14 in bull barrel for my G2 Contender in 30-30. Went to range this afternoon with 12 rounds each 7.5 gr. Unique behind 115 gr cast no gas check bullet also 7.9 grains unique behind the same 115 grain bullet. At 25 yds pretty good group, will keep fine tuning my loads for it. Any comments??

[vrh]

I use Unique powder in both of my .243 and 30-06 rifles. 10 grains in the 243 and 16 grains in the 30-06.
Both shooting cast bullets. 243 cast at 101 grains. 30-06 cast at 178 grains.
Have very good results in both rifles. Just got thru putting 11 rds into a 1 1/2 inch group at 50 yds, while sighting in my 243.

[J.M.Browning]

I use 11gr Unique with 170gr Hornady Interlock jacketed bullets in a 1930 Winchester 30/30 for CLA.
This load knocks down the 65lb steel rams at 200 yds. with recoil that is about .22lr level.
For PCCLA my load is 6.5gr Unique with a 240gr Berry's plated bullet, in a Marlin 1894,
recoil being negligable.
The wife uses this load successfully at 200 yds. for CLA also.
Also for CLA, 11.5 gr Unique works well with the 240 gr. Berry's in my .444 Marlin,
although 12gr of 700-X burns cleaner with the same components and results.
I also use Winchester LR primers with all these loads and have not found any problems with inconsistent ignition or having to hold the rifle up to position the powder near the primer.
With 62 year old eyes, I have cleaned the chickens at 50yds in a couple of matches
and 9 pigs at a 100yds a couple of times, and I'm not the greatest shot due to being
fat, out of shape with poor eyesight.

[Texas by God]

I discovered that a T/C Lexan blackpowder priming flask throws consistent 10.5 gr charges of Unique AND Red Dot.
How cool is that?

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[gustavez]

What would you guys think max load for unique and lee 160gr cast boolits gas checked from a marlin 336w

[mr surveyor]

What would you guys think max load for unique and lee 160gr cast boolits gas checked from a marlin 336w

After several years of putting it off, I finally loaded cast for my old micro-groove 336 (30-30) last week. Mainly working with gas checked 170's but I've had about a dozen gc 140's given to me 5 years ago by a friend that was still working on learning his casting abilities. All of the 140's measured .309 and I was just a bit hesitant to even try them for several years, then after loading/shooting a couple dozen of the 170's I finally got the guts to try the little stash of local cast 140's. I loaded them all with 9 gr of Unique and was pleasantly surprised. Shot the first 5 over the Chrony, off the bench at 50 yards. Those five averaged 1476 fps with an extreme spread of 8 fps. Wow! The next surprise was the group size - 5 shot total was 0.8" .... best 4 was 0.65".
I had my grandson shoot the remaining few rounds and he still put them all into a 1" group.

I don't have a real need for a bunny load in the 30-30, but the 9 gr of Unique with the 140 cast are enough reason to find a need :)

jd

[scattershot]

I discovered that a T/C Lexan blackpowder priming flask throws consistent 10.5 gr charges of Unique AND Red Dot.
How cool is that?

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WAY cool.

[toallmy]

I'll find out I just loaded up 40 rounds for a 30-30 Winchester test 10 rounds each 7-8-9-10 gr unique . Time will tell .

[mr surveyor]

I'll find out I just loaded up 40 rounds for a 30-30 Winchester test 10 rounds each 7-8-9-10 gr unique . Time will tell .

what boolit?


jd

[toallmy]

Noe / 311-180 fn gas check cast out of 50/50 coww /plumbers , now just waiting for the rain and wind to let up .

[mr surveyor]

Noe / 311-180 fn gas check cast out of 50/50 coww /plumbers , now just waiting for the rain and wind to let up .


have you shot 'em yet?

jd

[Texas by God]

10.5 grs of Unique and a 200 gr rnfp in my 44-40 is Fun.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180728/6ea0d3e6271083766dc83b769aa87a99.jpg

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[map55b]

My favorite pray.. Tin cans! Good times!

[Bookworm]

I figured I'd add my dos centavos.

7.62x54R

Mosin 91/30, NOE 316-203-RN (316299),air cooled CWW. Sized .316, dip lubed in BLL #2. OAL at 2.969", for the big ol' throat in this pig.

1.3cc Lee scoop, Universal powder. Lee claims that 1.3cc scoop is just under 12 grains with either Unique or Universal. I suspect it's a bit less than that, but I didn't weigh. Rem 9 1/2 LRP.

I tested a 10-shot string at 50 yds, the last 5 shots in 1.75", battle sights set at 450 yds.

1392 fps, SD 24.7 fps, ES 69 fps. 69 degrees, roughly 900ft altitude.

[eric123]

I discovered that a T/C Lexan blackpowder priming flask throws consistent 10.5 gr charges of Unique AND Red Dot.
How cool is that?

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Is it this one by chance?

https://www.amazon.com/Thompson-Center-Powder-Flask-U-View/dp/B000N8JW5I

[Texas by God]

Is it this one by chance?

https://www.amazon.com/Thompson-Center-Powder-Flask-U-View/dp/B000N8JW5I
Bingo. That's it.

[eric123]

Bingo. That's it.

Thank you...

[Texas by God]

eric123, I have two. Do you want the other one?
Thomas

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[eric123]

eric123, I have two. Do you want the other one?
Thomas

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Yes please. That would be great. I'm in South Dakota at the moment, but will be home Monday...

Eric

[double8]

Throwing 10.5 gr Unique.....I must try that in my 45-70 1886. I'm using 11gr and a 350 gr boolit now, but wouldn't need to set up my powder measure. Quick and easy...

[100yrdopenchamp]

anybody have a load for 6.5 credmore

[Texas by God]

anybody have a load for 6.5 credmoreTen grains of Unique ought to do[emoji6]

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[jim 44-40]

I did not know that you could get a break open single shot in 44-40 cal

[Texas by God]

I did not know that you could get a break open single shot in 44-40 cal
Jim 44-40- I had to convert a shotgun to get it. I'm loving it and it will be with me on opening day.

[Texas by God]

The priming flask I kept (Brass valve) throws 9.5 grs of Unique. That's fine with me. I tested an old Weaver K6 scope on the Mauser 30-30 with that charge under purple pc LeeC312155 sized to .309"that a member here provided. 7 rounds and then I moved the scope for zero. 1" dot @ 40yds.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181022/b96bf601f103ede3c8a36386045fe451.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181022/f16331467d6abe53528452785875eceb.jpg

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[map55b]

Nice! I'm not familiar with purple bullets. can you enlighten me?

[toallmy]

have you shot 'em yet?

jd

I'm sorry somehow I have missed this post , yes I have and it seems between 8-9 works wonderful and is a blast to shoot but quite a bit of drop at a 100 yards .

[Texas by God]

Nice! I'm not familiar with purple bullets. can you enlighten me?Some of those newfangled powder coated boolits. There is one sitting by the front sandbag in the pic of the gun.
I guess I'm going to have to start writing things down. I have forgotten who sent me those.

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[map55b]

Some of those newfangled powder coated boolits.

Ah, I guess color is then irrelevant and I'm old fashion.

[Texas by God]

Ah, I guess color is then irrelevant and I'm old fashion.Me too, Mike. I still like lubed boolits better but these shot ok. I like the smell of Alox better than the smell of plastic.
Yes, I sniff fired cases like wine corks[emoji6]

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[Charlie Horse]

What would the load data be using unique in a ruger 22 hornet? Safe or no?

I use 4.1 grains under a 45 grain boolit. Works good out of my 10" TC.233589This is at 100 yards from an improvised rest. That horizontal stringing is from my pulse.

[mikwat]

Anyone tried this out with 8mm Kropatschek?

[millwright]

10 gr unique, 7 1/2 in sbh, 2x burris 800 lb bull moose , 50 yd. Complete pass through, 240 grain wc. 2 steps, dead moose.

[Norske]

10 grains and a 250gr bullet in a 44Magnum is no starting load. If you want a plinking load in 44M, try 7 grains of Unique and a 240-250 gr bullet. My old Lyman manual lists 7gr as a 44M starting load, new manuals start 2 or 3 grains higher. Why?
Those of us with Marlin 1894 rifles in 44M have/will find accuracy with a 300 gr bullet disappointing. The rifling twist rate is too slow, about 1/2 the spin rate of a Ruger Super Blackhawk, where a 300 gr bullet can be very accurate.
I still follow Elmer Kieth's recommendations of Alliant 2400 for powerful 44M loads. Note the max powder charge changed when 2400 was changed to burn cleaner. 20 grains 2400 is the new 22 grain charge. My recovered bullets showed he was right when he wrote that Unique would melt the cast bullet base worse than 2400. I use a lot of Unique in 20 gauge shotgun loads, and 38 & 357 handguns, and lighter loads in my 44s. Actually 9 gr Unique/245 gr bullet is an effective hunting load in a 44M.

[Sig556r]

anybody have a load for 6.5 credmore

Good luck with using Unique for a high-velocity high-BC 6.5 Creedmoor...
or credmore...

[obssd1958]

Look what the Big Brown Truck brought!
These will be primed, filled with 10 gr of Unique, and have a Lyman 311440 seated on top - then make the trip to NCBS next Friday. I'm stoked!!

242416

(It's .303 Savage)

[gc45]

10 gr Unique has been quit accurate for me in several old rifles chambered in 45-70 and 45-90. Back in my hunting days would pass a 330 grain Gould bullet right thru deer at about 100 yds with ease, two steps and fell over. Shot plenty of them too resting on hay bales. Then I found 5744 that really puckered for me @ 26-27 grains, both great powders IMO-

GC45

[Charlie Horse]

I cannot, CANNOT get Unique to work in my Tikka 223 rifle. I'm talking beach ball sized patterns (not groups) at 100 yards.