Supposing...

[madcaster]

If a feller were to buy a rolling block in 7mm,and really like the design,but wants it in .30/06 instead....
IS the old Remington action strong enough to be safe?
Yeah I know,get a Browning Highwall or sumptin,but I don't wanna high wall nutin'!
A fairly serious question....
Thanks,
Jeff,whose mind is wandering tonight.[smilie=1:

[Bullshop]

Maybe a 30/03 loaded to origonal pressure would be a better match.
BIC/BS

[missionary5155]

Some years ago I saw a table that listed CASE Head Thrust . I am thinking it was in Reloader Magazine.. or possibly Ken Waters reloading manual (the multiple set). Anyway that is where the quetion is (to me).
My NRA Gunsmithing Guide - Update page 306 by Frank De Hass ( Building Rifles on Remington Rolling Blocks says relating to the #1 Smokeless Action Model 1902 says... " I certainly advise against conversion to 30-06 or .222 Remington....."
If this was going to be a CAST ONLY rifle... I would... But then I would not be pushing my 220+ grain cast over 2000 FPS anyway.

[Morgan Astorbilt]

I would think a smokeless powder version(small firing pin- large shank), would be strong enough. Military rifles were made in 7.62 Russian and .303 British. There were a few made experimentally in .30-06. I suspect the weak extractor would be the biggest problem. For rimless '06, it would have to be set up to retract as it was closed, further weakening it.
Morgan

[Bullshop]

Gotta remember too that in thier origonal loading all the cartridges mentioned were of lower pressure than today. I doubt any were over 45,000 psi and were likely less, like closer to 40,000. The first beginings of the 303B were black powder.
That is why I suggested the 30/03. It was prolly the lowest pressure loading of all the 06 based cases. Actually that is wrong, the 06 is actually an 03 based case. Well sorta cause they were both stolen from the Mauser brothers. We, the USA did have to pay them off after the war. Anyway I think the 30/03 was loaded to about the same pressure as the 30/40 or there abouts.
Here is the nice part, if chambered for 30/03 it will still fire 30/06 ammo. Only differance is the 03 version has a longer neck, great for boolits.
Brass is no problem as you can use 270, or 280 brass. Not much differance really just thought it more appropriate to keep in the same time frame. Besides I like the confused looks you get when you answer that most enjoyable question, WHAT IS IT?
BIC/BS

[madcaster]

Thanks guys,you are steering me away from a bad ideal,I appreciate it.
Guess if'n I get a single shot .30/06 now it will either be a Ruger #1 or a Browning B-78...

[45nut]

how about 30-40 ?

[Red River Rick]

Here's a list I copied from one of Frank De Hass's books. It's a good start and give you an indication as to what's "Safe".

RRR


GROUP 1

Remington No. 4 (solid frame)
Remington No. 4 (takedown)
Crescent Takedown

Rimfire Cartridges

.22 BB or CB
.22 Short
.22 Long
.22 Long Rifle
.22 W.R.F.
.22 WMR (No. 4 Rem. Solid Frame only)
.25 Short
.25 Long
.32 Short
.32 Long

Centerfire Cartridges

.32 Colt Short
.32 Colt Long
.32 S&W Short
.32 S&W Long


Group 2

Remington No. 2 (late version)

.25-20
.32-20
.38 S&W
.38 Special
.38-40
.44 Special
.44-40
.45 Auto Rim
.45 Colt
(includes all cartridges mentioned in Group 1)


Group 3

Remington No. 1 ½
Whitney New System

.22 Jet
.22 Hornet
.218 Bee
.219 Zipper
.22 Savage HP
.256 Magnum
.25-35
.30-30
.32 Special
.32-40
.38-55
.357 Magnum
(includes all cartridges mentioned in Groups 1 & 2)


GROUP 4

Remington No. 1 BP Actions
Springfield Navy Model 1870
Springfield Army Model 1871
Danish Model 1867
Spanish-made No. 1 .43 cal.
Whitney Model 1872

.44-100 Remington Creedmore
.444 Marlin
.45-70
.45-90
.50-70
28 gauge
20 gauge


GROUP 5

Remington No. 1 Smokeless Action (with 1901 or later patent dates)

.222 Rimmed
.250-3000 Savage
.257 Roberts
7MM Mauser (7 x 57)
.300 Savage
.30-40 Krag
.303 British
8 x 57 JR
.35 Remington
9.3 x 74R
.45 ACP