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JAC43
03-26-2020, 11:52 AM
Supposedly Skeeter Skelton's choice was a 358156, either solid or HP. What is your favorite mold for a 357?

Bazoo
03-26-2020, 03:05 PM
Favorite? I'm still trying to figure that out. Something a bit heavier. I liked the Lyman 358429 but it was too long in magnum brass.

However I had good luck with the 358156 out of a blackhawk and a marlin 1894c with 15 grains of 2400. Sheared the forearm band screw off the rifle however from sandbags. Whoops. 13.5 grains was more of an everyday working load that was soft enough to be comfortable and strong enough to get most jobs done.

I shot a couple handfuls of the lee 358-158-RF, mostly at 38 special levels with no complaints. However, I didn't like the bevel base. It didn't cause trouble, I just don't like them.

I've been wanting to get my hands on either a quantity of RCBS 38-150-SWCs or the mould itself to try.

Right now my only mould for 38/357 is the lee 358-140-SWC. I just happened into it, I didn't choose it. It does okay though. The wife retains ownership over our only 357 chambered firearm. A smith and wesson 686. The lee does pretty decent with either 4.0 and 5.0 grains of HP-38 in special brass. I'm working on developing a magnum load or two, we'll see how it goes.

Dapaki
03-26-2020, 03:10 PM
I like the TL358-158SWC by Lee. Nice holes in paper, PC's well, loads well, works well in the .38 and the 350LGD if loaded singly.

mattw
03-26-2020, 03:24 PM
I have a couple... depending upon the platform. I do really like the 358156 and similar designs for a revolver platform. Also the 358429 should not be overlooked when you want to throw a little more weight. Also, the NOE 358-160-WFN is an excellent performer. On a rifle platform I primarily use the RCBS 357-180-SIL, it is stellar in a Marlin lever with microgroove rifling. The 358429 is also very viable in a carbine. If you want more weight and your rifle will feed it the Lyman 358627 is a beast at 215 grains.

MT Gianni
03-26-2020, 03:41 PM
The 358156 is a favorite in one 92 the 160 NOE WFN in another. The 358429 does good work in a Blackhawk but mine is a 2 cavity so I shoot the 180 fn more often in 357. For general plinking I tend to shoot the 358477 in 38 cases a lot. I have tried to cut down some in the 35 caliber molds but still have over a dozen.

DHDeal
03-27-2020, 12:04 AM
Right now my favorite is a MP Hammer GC mold with the large HP pin. The bullets have shot fantastic in the 4 357's they've been fired from (PC only). I also have an Accurate Molds 36-176D that shoots almost as good (PC for it too).

2 of the revolvers are Freedom Arms 83's and those bullets have been pushed hard. I've yet to run out of accuracy even at the top, but the Hammer is plenty accurate at 1500 fps so I'll typically leave them there.

Huskerguy
03-27-2020, 01:11 AM
Favorite? I'm still trying to figure that out. Something a bit heavier. I liked the Lyman 358429 but it was too long in magnum brass.

However I had good luck with the 358156 out of a blackhawk and a marlin 1894c with 15 grains of 2400. Sheared the forearm band screw off the rifle however from sandbags. Whoops. 13.5 grains was more of an everyday working load that was soft enough to be comfortable and strong enough to get most jobs done.

I shot a couple handfuls of the lee 358-158-RF, mostly at 38 special levels with no complaints. However, I didn't like the bevel base. It didn't cause trouble, I just don't like them.

I've been wanting to get my hands on either a quantity of RCBS 38-150-SWCs or the mould itself to try.

Right now my only mould for 38/357 is the lee 358-140-SWC. I just happened into it, I didn't choose it. It does okay though. The wife retains ownership over our only 357 chambered firearm. A smith and wesson 686. The lee does pretty decent with either 4.0 and 5.0 grains of HP-38 in special brass. I'm working on developing a magnum load or two, we'll see how it goes.

I recently picked up an RCBS 38-150 and poured a few. I really like the looks of the bullet, drops a bit smaller than I would like. I plan to get these powder coated and then I will see how they shoot. With my lead, combination of COWW and range lead, they weigh around 155 either way.

Walks
03-27-2020, 01:42 AM
My Brain would explode if I was forced to choose between the Lyman three;

#358156GC over Max 2400
#358477 over Heavy Unique in M27
#358429/#358439HP over Heavy Unique in Blackhawk/Security-Six

#358429 in .38Spl cases over Unique, .38/44 Level loads for the M27 & Colt Official Police.

Only the #358156 crimped over the front driving band will feed reliably in My Marlin 1894's. Of course that was before the 1894CS was reworked for Cowboy Shooting.

dale2242
03-27-2020, 10:00 AM
Lyman 358477 for me.
I have a 4 cavity mold for production...dale

lightman
03-27-2020, 12:47 PM
My go to is a 150 grain Keith Type SWC. Next up is the same Keith Type SWC weighing 170 grains. Most mold manufactures make either of these. My 150 is an RCBS and the 170 is an original H&G.

Outpost75
03-27-2020, 10:04 PM
My favorite .357 Mag. bullet is the 190-grain Hunters Supply flatnose, which is approximated most closely by the Accurate 36-185E. I have an older Walt Melander NEI version of the same slug, but after Walt died NEI quality went into the toilet and they are no longer in business. Use 4 grains of Bullseye in .38 Special and 4.5 grains in .357 Magnum for subsonic, very accurate general-purpose load. Use 11 grs. of Alliant #2400 in .357 for full-charge load. Tom Ellis's favorite bullet for his 1894 Marlin .357 Magnum. Also great seated out into the top lube groove for my 1950 S&W .38-44 Heavy Duty .38 Special with 9 grs. of Alliant #2400.

259238

Does it all.

Murphy
03-27-2020, 11:11 PM
Skeeter Skelton is very reason I got into casting to begin with. I could live with (if pressed) the Thompson #358156. However, I would be concerned about a constant supply of gas checks also. Behind that, would be the Lyman #358477. A well designed and good shooting bullet in my guns. I do not have near the experience with the #358477 as I do the #358156. Elmer Keith's #358429 is a dandy as well. My experience with it has been as limited as with the #358477. I do know the #358429 will pack a solid punch when it lands.

I believe I would have to go with Skeeter's choice, the Thompson #358156 and just be mindful of gathering a good amount of gas checks for it.

Murphy

Jack Stanley
03-28-2020, 02:52 PM
Mine is a LBT 185LFN bullet with gas check It's accurate in anything tried . Also , in .38 ammo you don't even need the gas check .

Jack

Poygan
03-28-2020, 02:56 PM
I like both the Lee 158RF and the RCBS 150 grain SWC.

robg
03-28-2020, 04:59 PM
rcbs 180sil gc mold most accurate past 50 yards

lotech
03-29-2020, 10:08 AM
H&G #51, 160 gr. SWC. I think this was the original .357 Magnum bullet, but also works well in .38 Special. #358156 may be as accurate or even better than the #51, but I've never done a side-by-side comparison and seldom cast the #358156 anymore.

gwpercle
03-29-2020, 04:40 PM
Supposedly Skeeter Skelton's choice was a 358156, either solid or HP. What is your favorite mold for a 357?

Yes ...for the longest time the 358156 was my choice , 155 gr. SWC with a gas check was the primo choice for 357 magnum for me .... But I've discovered another choice that rivals #1...
It's Noe - 358 - 124 - TC - GC ! It drops from the mould .358 and is a 124 grain truncated cone design with a gas check. Easily lubed and sized through a .358 lube/sizer die . Lots of load data for 124-125 grain boolits , the gas check allows speeds of 1000 + fps and it saves a little lead with the 124 gr. weight .
Now here's the kicker...for some reason this design is very accurate in 357 magnum revolver and
rifle . I use a 9mm Luger taper crimp die when loading in 38 spcl and 357 magnum .
This boolit works like a charm in 357 mag.
Gary

Hick
03-29-2020, 09:37 PM
358156GC for sure, but also the RCBS 163 grain SWC GC. I bought the Ideal 358156 years ago before I had anything in 38 cal-- I was looking for a set of Lyman small mold handles and this guy was selling the 358156 with the handles for $40-- so I bought it without knowing how good that bullet is. Now I know.

Michael J. Spangler
03-29-2020, 10:37 PM
It was the 358156 till I got my hands on a MP 359640 which drops at about 170 grains with my alloy.
RNFP feeds great in my 1873. Wider meplat than the 358156 and a little heavier. Still has 2 crimp grooves that are bigger to boot. Bigger grease groove. Non gas check which I like. All that and it’s a 6 cavity!

I always felt that a 170 was a better weight in a 357 carbine. Just a little more weight and you don’t lose much velocity.

cwlongshot
03-30-2020, 08:23 AM
For a 35 hand gun mold I’d have to say the Ranch Dog 180/190g

For a 357 Mag Lyman 358429 or LEE 358/158

My maxi loves a old LEE group BUY 190 WFN. Close profile to the RD but W/ conventional grease grooves. That bullet won’t work in short Throats or most revolvers ;( But the RD lee DOES! :)

Recent add is a 358429HP I like it allot. Simply seat to near top of the driving band and works in every mag I have.

For powders depends upon caliber. But Blue Dot serves me very well in the mag.

cowboy4evr
03-30-2020, 09:52 AM
My favorite is Tom @ Accurate molds version of the Lyman 358156 as a plain base bullet . I have 2 / 4 cavity molds so I can keep up on my usage . They come out @ 161-162 grs after sized/ lubed . I size them .358 and lube with Veral Smiths LBT soft blue . Regards, Paul

waco
03-30-2020, 07:00 PM
This is pretty much my go to mold now except for a WC mold for my K38
http://accuratemolds.com/bullet_detail.php?bullet=36-158V-D.png

Thin Man
04-01-2020, 08:18 AM
I tested several different mold designs in my Rossi Trapper and found the tightest groups when firing the Lyman 358156 design. All designs were tested at full snort load levels.

When talking handguns it gets a bit dependent on the purpose. For heavy loads against varmints that could harm you (both 2 and 4 leg varieties) I have Modern-Bond molds for full wadcutters that have a longer than normal nose almost bore diameter. The 358582 mold throws 150 grain boolits for .38 Special and the 358627 mold makes 160 grain boolits for .357 Magnum, both are plain base. For field loafing I can be content with the Lyman 358477 SWC or Lee 358158 RF design. Too many molds, too little time.

Green Frog
04-08-2020, 11:26 PM
If it was good enough for Skeeter, it’s good enough for me! I usually load swaged HBWCs in 38s, but if pressed I could use just the ‘156 for all but my target guns that require flush seated wadcutter. I’d kinda like to cut off the GC groove though... I use it so seldomly.

Froggie

rintinglen
04-10-2020, 02:24 PM
The 358-156 is my go-to magnum mold. 15.7 grains of h-110, a small pistol magnum primer, and nothing else in that power range comes close to matching its accuracy.

Guesser
04-10-2020, 04:15 PM
358156 in all my revolvers, Marlin Carbine and all the Contenders

Land Owner
04-12-2020, 06:46 AM
Lee's single cavity 358-150 WC.

There is something visceral about sending a stabilized "ash can" down range. Now THAT has to sting a mite going through.

jonp
04-12-2020, 07:16 AM
Lee 358-125/158 RF although I cast and shoot a lot of the Lee 358-148 WC's. Since I shoot more target than anything I'm going to say the 358-125 RF or 358-148 WC. Ok, I'll settle on the 358-148 WC over some Promo for target shooting.

fivegunner
04-12-2020, 08:52 AM
I Love the 358-156 It works well.:)

WRideout
04-12-2020, 09:57 AM
Lyman 358477. In my early days of casting, I used a single cavity HP mold borrowed from my stepfather. Now I own a two cavity that casts perfect boolits effortlessly. Very accurate in 38 spl and 357 mag. I have shot them as cast with tumble lube, but currently size to .357 with my homemade lube formula.

Wayne

308w
04-12-2020, 10:04 AM
Right now almost exclusively the 358429 over 14.0 2400.
Shoots well in 3 686’s, a 3”,6” and a 8 3/8 this.
But 358156 does real well over 7.0 of unique more of a mid range load. By
If I were to find a 4 cavity Mould I might do more of these also.

dragon813gt
04-12-2020, 10:08 AM
MP 359-640, double crimp groove. Extremely accurate and smacks down a deer w/ ease. Only thing I don’t like so much is the weight. Don’t want to shoot a lot of them since I’m rebuilding my lead stash. Shoot a lot of MP 359-135 instead. Another extremely accurate bullet.

usmc0811
04-12-2020, 10:30 AM
I like the TL358-158SWC by Lee. Nice holes in paper, PC's well, loads well, works well in the .38 and the 350LGD if loaded singly.

This is what I have and I like it. It is my only .357/.38 mold I have so I cant compare to others.

Bouteselle
04-14-2020, 01:40 PM
Lyman 358429 in my GP100, works great.

1hole
04-14-2020, 03:43 PM
Supposedly Skeeter Skelton's choice was a 358156, either solid or HP. What is your favorite mold for a 357?

As a general rule, a SWC of any configuration is the single most accurate handgun bullet for any caliber and weight you wish. After that, you can expect a wide range of opinions of what's "best", or favorite, depending on the speaker's personal experience while shooting from a wide variety of barrels, few of which duplicates your barrel so don't expect duplicate experience with your rig.

If you want a target round with modest recoil try a light weight plain base bullet and use a fast burning powder. If you want to hunt big game use a slower powder under a heavy weight bullet for deeper penetration. If you want something that expands better use a softer alloy with a gas check design.

FISH4BUGS
04-17-2020, 09:12 AM
H&G #51 plain base for plinking w/ 5 gr WW231, gas check version w/ 12.5 gr WW296 for full house loads.

Gunslinger1911
04-20-2020, 07:51 PM
I just got the MiHec 358429 - outstanding boolet !
Maybe a bit "square" for a lever gun to feed well, but I have another mould for that.
Tons of this going through a Python and the Model 27 I hope to find soon ! lol260775

murf205
04-26-2020, 10:46 PM
261153261154 I have had great performance from 2 boolits. For 38 Spl and all around 357 loads, the 358-160H from Accurate in a 3 cavity works for me. In full snort hunting rounds, I used the 180gr LBT. Both are very accurate but my Lyman 358477 is just as accurate also.

Greg S
04-27-2020, 06:37 AM
I have 3, MiHec's 358-156 and 429 Cramer style and a Lyman 358-665 RNFP.

pworley1
04-27-2020, 06:58 AM
The 358156 when using a check and the 358477 without a check.

DAVIDMAGNUM
04-27-2020, 07:06 AM
Outpost75
That bullet is also a favorite of mine.
Propelled by 16.5gr of Reloader 7 in a 24" barrel is impressive.