Single Actions in 44 special

[GSP7]

I got a itch for a short barrel, packing, 44 special SA

Ruger has that flat top medium frame bisley offering, Ruger #5236

Then got to thinking , Does anyone have a 1873 Colt clone in 44 special.

After trying to navigate Cimarron's difficult web site I found 3 in 44 special.-- Model P, -Thunder, -and Bisley-( not sure who makes these... Pietta?)

I dont think Uberti offers a 44 special on the Uberti website

Do you guys know of any others in 44 special

[Thumbcocker]

I have an Uberti "Frisco" in .45 colt. It is an dandy traditional single action and I would not hesitate to get one in .44 special if offered. One member here has posted some impressive targets and critter pics shot with an Uberti .44 special.

[Guesser]

I have a Cimarron 5.5" Ubertti in 44 Special; great gun, I got it for a great price slightly used complete with box, papers and Cimarron "Huckleberry" bumper sticker.
Taylor and Co. have every style you could possibly want, as well.

[375supermag]

Hi...
I have a Uberti Cimarron 1873 SAA in .44Spl with the old model frame.
Excellent revolver, well fitted and accurate.

[Buzz Krumhunger]

How short?

[Bent Ramrod]

I have a Uberti Flat-Top Target Model, 7-1/2” barrel, originally in .44-40, that I fitted a .44 Special cylinder to. Amazingly accurate, and I haven't used the original cylinder in years. You might see if they offer that model in .44 Special now, with a shorter barrel. The adjustable sights are less obtrusive than the usual run of revolver sights, and even with the long barrel, the gun feels nice and “alive.”

[stubshaft]

You can't go wrong with the Ruger. My Lipsey flattop packs just fine in a Simply Rugged pancake holster and is accurate to boot.

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[GSP7]

I have a Uberti Flat-Top Target Model, 7-1/2” barrel, originally in .44-40, that I fitted a .44 Special cylinder to. Amazingly accurate, and I haven't used the original cylinder in years. You might see if they offer that model in .44 Special now, with a shorter barrel. The adjustable sights are less obtrusive than the usual run of revolver sights, and even with the long barrel, the gun feels nice and “alive.”

All I could find in Target models is 22cal, and a callahan target in .44 mag

.

[Uncle Grinch]

My Ruger stainless flattop loves unique and 240 grain cast.

[LUBEDUDE]

Just saw this post after posting this pic on another thread. Sorry for the dupe.

Cimarron 44 Specials with Elephant Ivory


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200310/33d151956caf63d62c25b83d122dfc14.jpg

[MT Gianni]

I have 5 sa Rugers and the 44 flattop is the most accurate.

[35 Whelen]

I got a itch for a short barrel, packing, 44 special SA

Ruger has that flat top medium frame bisley offering, Ruger #5236

Then got to thinking , Does anyone have a 1873 Colt clone in 44 special.

After trying to navigate Cimarron's difficult web site I found 3 in 44 special.-- Model P, -Thunder, -and Bisley-( not sure who makes these... Pietta?)

I dont think Uberti offers a 44 special on the Uberti website

Do you guys know of any others in 44 special

Here's you a deal- NIB Cimarron Model P 4 3/4" .44 Special (https://www.ar15.com/forums/equipment-exchange/WTS-Single-Action-Revolvers-44spl-and-357mag/88-1966560/)

They turn up from time to time on Gunbroker and Dixie Gun Works (https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index/page/category/category_id/319/category_chain/312,318,319/name/Cartridge/#product_listing=%3Fcurrent_page%3D1%26results_per _page%3D0%26order_by%3Dlowest_price%26search_param s%3D%26search_params%3D) typically has a good selection of .44 Special's.

I have an older Uberti that was someone's 44-40 CAS revolver. I fitted a .44 Special cylinder to it and it has been my workhorse, accounting a few deer and a hog. Despite being a little loose from all the competition shooting and heavy-ish hunting loads, it's still quite accurate and will run a 258 gr. SWC near 1,000 fps without breaking a sweat.

https://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Single%20Actions/Uberti%204.75%20%20RCBS%2044-250%2050%20yds.-text_zpsrjoeb9hu.jpg (https://s60.photobucket.com/user/308Scout/media/Single%20Actions/Uberti%204.75%20%20RCBS%2044-250%2050%20yds.-text_zpsrjoeb9hu.jpg.html)

https://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Single%20Actions/Uberti%204.75%20%2050%20yds.%20Offhand-text_zpsmuxcltja.jpg (https://s60.photobucket.com/user/308Scout/media/Single%20Actions/Uberti%204.75%20%2050%20yds.%20Offhand-text_zpsmuxcltja.jpg.html)

https://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Single%20Actions/Uberti%204.75%2044%20Special%203_zpsytuogudz.jpg (https://s60.photobucket.com/user/308Scout/media/Single%20Actions/Uberti%204.75%2044%20Special%203_zpsytuogudz.jpg.h tml)

35W

[falmike]

I’ve got one of these:

http://www.taloinc.com/ruger-firearms/ruger-blackhawk-flattop-44

Love it!

[tejano]

I have one of these. https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/revolvers/freedom-arms-revolvers/freedom-arms-model-97-premier--44-special-3-1-2-quot--packer-style-new-in-box.cfm?gun_id=101346138

I have had it for more than a decade and has lived most of its life as a safe queen. I will make it a goal to shoot it soon.

[GSP7]

I have one of these. https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/revolvers/freedom-arms-revolvers/freedom-arms-model-97-premier--44-special-3-1-2-quot--packer-style-new-in-box.cfm?gun_id=101346138

I have had it for more than a decade and has lived most of its life as a safe queen. I will make it a goal to shoot it soon.

Hey , that's a shooter ! what cha hiding in the safe for ? :Fire::Fire::drinks:

[schofieldbob]

My wife shoots a pair of Lipseys Sheriffs models 3 3/4" stainless Vaquero's 44 Spec. in SASS, very nice handling guns.

[Dale53]

I have a Cimarron single action in .44 Special that shoots extremely well. However, the sights are first generation Colt's (that is to say, nearly impossible to use) and the revolver does not shoot to the sights. It is a beautiful revolver with an almost too light clean breaking trigger. It's a shame it doesn't have better sights.

I have two of the Ruger Flattops - one is a SS with 4 3/4" barrel and one is a blued 5.5" barrel. Both of them shoot extremely well, have a great set of sights and are totally practical. Of course, being Ruger, they each needed a trigger job when purchased. I had that taken care of and can hardly find anything to say, but "Top Drawer". They are about as good as it gets! I can recommend to any who wants a really GOOD single action. My most used load is the Skeeter load (7.5 grs. of Unique behind a Mihec correct copy of the H&G #503 cast bullet (250 gr. Keith).

FWIW
Dale53

[tejano]

Took a photo this morning of my last two 44 Specials. The Ruger started out life as a .357 mag but was converted to .44 Special by Cosby Custom Gunsmithing. I am its second owner. Both the original owner and I probably "paid too much" in light of the fact that Ruger did their own shortly thereafter. I have always suspected that the original owner knew it was coming and traded in his pistol before Ruger's news became common knowledge. Regardless, it is a good shooter and I am pleased to have it.

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[onelight]

As much as I like the looks of a traditional style single action , adjustable sights make life much simpler so Ruger Flat top Bisley was my 44 special choice and it is an easy gun to for me to hit with.

[JoeJames]

My Ruger BH 4 1/2" in 44 Special is my favorite revolver. After a lot of testing off a rest, I settled down to 6.8 grains Unique under a .430" Speer 240 grain swaged SWC, or a laser cast Oregon Trail .431" 240 grain with 6.5 grains of Unique. Both loads run about 900 fps in the Ruger. Appears to me the most accurate for my Ruger. The load is good enough for the wilds of Arkansas - no Griz down here. Just like the other poster, first thing I did when I got it was put in a trigger spring kit and new grips.

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[35 Whelen]

I have a Cimarron single action in .44 Special that shoots extremely well. However, the sights are first generation Colt's (that is to say, nearly impossible to use) and the revolver does not shoot to the sights. It is a beautiful revolver with an almost too light clean breaking trigger. It's a shame it doesn't have better sights.

I have two of the Ruger Flattops - one is a SS with 4 3/4" barrel and one is a blued 5.5" barrel. Both of them shoot extremely well, have a great set of sights and are totally practical. Of course, being Ruger, they each needed a trigger job when purchased. I had that taken care of and can hardly find anything to say, but "Top Drawer". They are about as good as it gets! I can recommend to any who wants a really GOOD single action. My most used load is the Skeeter load (7.5 grs. of Unique behind a Mihec correct copy of the H&G #503 cast bullet (250 gr. Keith).

FWIW
Dale53

My very first traditional SA in .44 Special was/is a Cimarron Model P. I didn't care for the old-style sights, but I had a new issued FFL on the wall and $400 burning a hole in my pocket, so I bought it.

The problem of the sights really wasn't a big deal to solve. I took the revolver to a machinist buddy of my Dad's and instructed him to mill the V rear sight groove with a 1/8" mill. He did it while I waited and didn't charge me a dime.

https://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Single%20Actions/Model%20P%20Rear%20sight%202_zpsxkfombde.jpg (https://s60.photobucket.com/user/308Scout/media/Single%20Actions/Model%20P%20Rear%20sight%202_zpsxkfombde.jpg.html)

I used the tapered original front sight for awhile, then ordered a full thickness one, worked it down to the proper thickness then took the revolver and sight to a local 'smith who charged me $25 to remove the original sight and solder in the new one. Cold blued it and done.

https://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Single%20Actions/Model%20P%20Front%20Sight%202_zps76pnhawa.jpg (https://s60.photobucket.com/user/308Scout/media/Single%20Actions/Model%20P%20Front%20Sight%202_zps76pnhawa.jpg.html )

Finally I bought a 40 lpi checkering file and cut the rear of all my SA sights, which made an enormous difference under bright conditions.


As much as I like the looks of a traditional style single action , adjustable sights make life much simpler so Ruger Flat top Bisley was my 44 special choice and it is an easy gun to for me to hit with.

A properly made revolver, held and fired properly, will shoot straight making windage adjustments unnecessary. With my .44 Specials I stick to bullet weights from 245-258 grs. and at velocities from 750 - 1000 fps, maybe a bit more, POI's out to 75 yds. aren't enough in difference to warrant twiddling with elevation adjustments when the sights are properly regulated. The only advantage to adjustable sights is they typically offer a better sight picture do to the larger rear sight.

35W

[Walks]

I have a Pair of Colt SAA's in .44SPL w/ 5 1/2' bbl's, 3rd gen. Shot them in Cowboy Shooting for 25+yrs.

The SAA Clones in .44SPL sorta grew on Me.

Cimarron 7 1/2" in .44SPL
EMF 7 1/2" in .44WCF/.44SPL
Cimarron 5 1/2" .44WCF/.44SPL
EMF 4 3/4" .44SPL
Cimarron 3 1/2" .44SPL (Thunderer)

Off hand I know one is an Armi San Marco and one an Uberti. It just sorta depends on what Italian Co. was making what for What American importer at the time. I bought the EMF 4 3/4" in 1993, Pretty sure it and the 7 1/2" .44WCF are Armi Sa Marco. Had .44SPL Cylinders fitted to the 2 .44WCF Revolvers.

As far as fit and finish go, there isn't a dimes worth of difference. All were purchased 20 or more years ago. Before the the various importers started with all the "new models".

All shoot straight, lock up is tight and easy to smooth up.

[Earlwb]

I wanted to add that Pietta makes a 1873 clone that comes in several calibers. I bought the .44 magnum version albeit I don't think shooting anything more hot than .44 Specials would be good for it. It is quite inexpensive in comparison to many of the other brands too.

[ddixie884]

The Ruger flattop .44spl with the regular grip is very handy..............

[Good Cheer]

A 454190 scaled down to .43 would be nice.

[bigboredad]

Just saw this post after posting this pic on another thread. Sorry for the dupe.

Cimarron 44 Specials with Elephant Ivory


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200310/33d151956caf63d62c25b83d122dfc14.jpgThose are beautiful

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[Groo]

Groo here
Ruger still has the Vaquero 3 3/4 in SS in 44 mag with birdshead grip[also made with standard grip]
A 44 spec load in that gun would easy.
Ps .. If you need adj sights,,, there are "some" smiths [Andy horvath did mine] will mill the top strap for an S&W adj sight
and put a sight base on the barrel for a matching blade.....

[onelight]

35 Whelen those sights turned out really nice.

[lightman]

I have a Gen 2 Colt SSA in 44 special. Expensive now days but occasionally available. Its a fun gun to shoot!

[Rodfac]

Rugers are good...I personally like the 4-5/8" bbl'd models for their ease of carry. A longer bbl just shoves the gun butt up into my short ribs when I carry in my usual 3-4 o'clock position in an open top OWB. The Flat Top Blackhawk pictured below with a set of my grips on it, will consistently out-shoot my old eyes...sub 2" gps at 25 yds are still frequent but when new, the gun would do half that. From mild target loads with 5.0 gr of Bullseye to fairly strenuous 1200 fps deer killers, it's my first choice of the four .44 Specials that I own.

Personally, I prefer adj. sights on my SA's. Makes changing loads easier not to mention initial zeroing. I cast & reload all my own ammunition and shoot everything from 180 WC's to 250 gr SWC's and adj. sights make it easy. Your preference may vary...Rod

YMMv, Rod

https://i.postimg.cc/Jh3wZtkz/IMG-E7749.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[fn1889m]

I have two Rugers in 44 special. The first was a 4.6” stainless flat top Blackhawk. I replaced the rear sight with a white outline Bowen, and put a fluorescent insert into the front sight with the Brownells kit. I am 66, and wear bifocals. If I only had one revolver this would be a good choice.

Second, I found a blued Ruger New Vaquero 4.6” in .44 special on GunBroker for about $580. It’s a mystery to me, because the last one I saw went for over $1200 in the final bid. And I just can’t justify spending that much, now that I am retiring. But the gods of old men smiled on me, and I picked it up for a bargain. It was apparently a small run, but I am sure Ruger will put it out again if Davidsons or other wholesaler will buy them. So I do not think it has exceptional value as a collector piece. It can handle 7.5 gn Unique without any problem, but I shoot 7 gn at the range. This is the SA that got me into casting. The Ubertis are nicer looking, but this Ruger is a brick outhouse in comparison. It is also built on the mid size frame.

My current project is to re-barrel (w/a new cylinder) a Taylor Uberti Cattleman from .357 to .44 special. Uberti .44-40 and .44 Special barrels are the same internal diameter: .429. The one I picked up is marked .44 WCF. As much as I like the Ruger, I think this will make a lighter hiking/backpacking pistol. It’s on the project list, but I have all the parts. I think the Ubertis are for “Tier 1.5 loads”. Maybe 7.0 gn of Unique under a nominal 240 gn bullet. While there are grizzlies in the Cascades, they are very rare. This is more of a “comfort pet” revolver. Last time I was camping alone, there was a large black bear on the hill above me, eating blueberries. It saw me but ignored me. I am more worried about other wildlife and people, than bears.

I apologize for my now deleted cell phone photos. They were right side up when I hit “upload”. I’ll work on this. They did not do justice to the firearms

[Golfswithwolves]

Although the specific request was for info on SAA clones in .44SP still I will mention the Freedom Arms Model 97 in that caliber because it fulfills the carry requirements the poster specified.

[Earlwb]

They do make some IWB holsters that fits 1873 revolvers too:

258728

[Chill Wills]

They do make some IWB holsters that fits 1873 revolvers too:

258728

I say, good for you! Go for it.
I can't imagine I could handle that much more than 5 minutes.

However, I have been wrong before.

[35 Whelen]

35 Whelen those sights turned out really nice.

Thanks!

I have a 5 1/2" Ruger Flat Top Blackhawk .44 Special but the Rugers are just too heavy and clunky compared to Uberti's/Cimarron's. Adjustable sights? I've never seen the need in them and I see even less need in switching from this bullet weight to that, and messing with the sights in the process. But to each his own.

35W

[GSP7]

A ruger flat top 4.6", .44sp bisley is on my list, along with a shorty .45 colt Bisley , and a .480 4.6" bisley

Funny all the SA revolvers I have and I still dont have a Ruger :Fire:.... I keep a eye out for a 3 screw though

Here's one of my 44mags. US arms Abilene
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[onelight]

They do make some IWB holsters that fits 1873 revolvers too:

258728
What brand holster is that ?

[Earlwb]

it was bought from White Hat Holsters. it is listed in the IWB section under S as a "single action army 45 colt".

[Earlwb]

I say, good for you! Go for it.
I can't imagine I could handle that much more than 5 minutes.

However, I have been wrong before.

Well I used to carry 1911s for seemingly ages. I got used to it. The revolver feels like it isn't even there.

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[Chill Wills]

I mostly wear a stainless double action 44 Special on my hip when I am out fishing the high mountain streams or in the woods but on occasion I wear this.
258757
About a dozen or more years ago I received this 44 mail order and right out of the box, thumbing the hammer back would not turn and lock all 6 chambers. Long story short, the new revolver went back to the Uberti repair station (Ohio maybe) unfired for repair work. I was unsure how that might go...

A few short weeks later I received a call very early one morning Rocky Mtn time. It was the Gunsmith at the repair center. Maybe a little too early but, ...He was great! He said he was surprised at the condition and he put extra effort into making this one right. "Extra effort" as in tuned to the best of his skills.
He said "I think you will be pleased"

I was! In spades! I received back the best, smoothest, best timed single action I have ever fired.
Come to think of it, I should shoot it more! Hmmm.

[onelight]

it was bought from White Hat Holsters. it is listed in the IWB section under S as a "single action army 45 colt".
Thanks I use IWB more than any other style but have never carried a single action in one.

[rintinglen]

I have a Storekeeper Ruger, albeit in 44 mag. I carried in the woods loaded with Skeeter Skelton's 7.5 grain Unique load under a Lyman 429-421. After a bit. I didn't notice it on my belt.

[junkbug]

I was wondering how much weight difference there is between a New Vaquero and a typical clone with the same barrel length.

[35 Whelen]

I was wondering how much weight difference there is between a New Vaquero and a typical clone with the same barrel length.

I can't compare these exact model in .44 Special, but I can tell you that my 5 1/2" Flat Top Blackhawk .44 Special weighs 2 lbs. 12.6 oz.

https://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Ruger%20Flat%20Top%20Blackhawk/Ruger%20on%20scales_zpswufvd9ex.jpg (https://s60.photobucket.com/user/308Scout/media/Ruger%20Flat%20Top%20Blackhawk/Ruger%20on%20scales_zpswufvd9ex.jpg.html)

while my 5 1/2" Cimarron .44 Special weighs 2 lbs. 5.8 oz.,

https://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/308Scout/Cimarron%20Model%20P/Model%20P%20on%20scale_zpswrk7whxp.jpg (https://s60.photobucket.com/user/308Scout/media/Cimarron%20Model%20P/Model%20P%20on%20scale_zpswrk7whxp.jpg.html)

...an almost 7 oz. difference. I once had a 4 3/4" New Vaquero 45 Colt and it was something like 1/4 lb. heavier than a like configured Uberti.
For the life of me I don't know why Ruger won't refine their revolvers just a little bit! You know...knock off some of those square edges and get rid of some of the useless extra metal that makes their revolvers so clunky and Baikal-esque.

35W

[Walks]

I have a New Vaquero in .45Colt with 5 1/2" bbl. And a Cimarron/Uberti in .45Colt with 5 1/2" bbl.
Not only is there a 3 1/2oz weight difference, according to my electronic kitchen scale. The Ruger is Very tight in every holster I have that was made for a Colt SAA.

And the cheap skinny plastic grips they put on the new Ruger SA's are as bad as shooting the Revolver without any grips at all.

Had to make a set of Walnut Grips after the first 5rds.

One last thing to ad, I grew up shooting Colt & Great Western SA's.
Most fixed sight revolvers will shoot to POI with the Standard Factory load for that Cartridge somewhere between 50-75ft.
The .44Spl is a 250gr RN at 750 fps.

It is very easy to change POI by slightly altering powder charge and bullet weight.
Even windage can be altered by varying powder charge.

Since I Shot Cowboy for so many years, I was able to tailor a specific load for just that purpose with a 210gr bullet. And still hit every time with the Skeeter Load at 20ft out to 50yds.

Shoot a Gun enough and at different distances and you won't have much trouble hitting anything.

All my Colt & Spaghetti guns have square notch rear sights, with tapered front sights. Just seems right to me.