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GOPHER SLAYER
03-07-2020, 04:25 PM
I got this priming tool in a box of reloading gear. It looks like it was made by Lee but I cannot find what case it it was made for. As you can see the shell holder is replaceable. The one it came with only has the letter J stamped on it and it doesn't fit any case
I have tried. Anyone else have one of these?
While looking through drawers where I keep brass I found two more hand priming tools. One is like the tool tha started this post. It has a K holder which primes 303 British, Krag and 44 Spl.The other is a RCBS which takes their shell holders.

44magLeo
03-07-2020, 04:31 PM
That loks like a Lee to me too. They used to sell a kit that had the Whack a mole die and a prime tool like that.
Some where caliber specific others had interchangeable shell holders. A lot of people like that tool
Perhaps some of the people that know more about them, such as Pressman or Froggie se thius they can tell you what that shell holder fits and if and where you may find ones you can use.
Leo

30calflash
03-07-2020, 04:44 PM
This will help: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/archive/index.php/t-34356.html

GOPHER SLAYER
03-07-2020, 04:50 PM
I see the J shell holder is for the 300 H&H case which makes it pretty much uselss to me. Thanks guys.

30calflash
03-07-2020, 04:58 PM
If you have a standard magnum it should work and I'd try it in 303 Brit and 30-40 Krag, if you have either of those.

BrassMagnet
03-07-2020, 05:11 PM
I can use that one and I have others to trade.

TNsailorman
03-07-2020, 07:04 PM
What cartridges do you intend to use this tool to prime? As far as I am concerned, that is the best hand primer that Lee ever made. I have tried the others and always come back to the first one, the one you have. Shell holders are getting a little hard to find in some calibers but they are still out there---for now at least.

BrassMagnet
03-07-2020, 07:53 PM
I do have a good assortment.

GOPHER SLAYER
03-07-2020, 09:15 PM
I tried every case I have including the Krag, 303 British. After reading the above posts I tried a 7MM Mag case and it fit. As I said, useless to me. Ron, did you want the complete priming tool or just the shell holder?

BrassMagnet
03-07-2020, 09:26 PM
I tried every case I have including the Krag, 303 British. After reading the above posts I tried a 7MM Mag case and it fit. As I said, useless to me. Ron, did you want the loading tool or just the shell holder?

Either. If you want to prime LPP, keep the handle and we can trade screw in shell holders. If you want to prime SPP, we can trade complete.

GOPHER SLAYER
03-07-2020, 11:29 PM
Either. If you want to prime LPP, keep the handle and we can trade screw in shell holders. If you want to prime SPP, we can trade complete.
Ron, why don't I just trade you the shell holder for a 30-30 shell holder? That will cover a wider range of cartridges.

Green Frog
03-08-2020, 07:21 AM
I love a happy ending... I also love the 1st model Lee priming tool. Even though the aluminum body and handle are subject to wear and tear, I continue to go back to mine, especially for pistols and revolvers. Some of us like Brass Magnet and myself seem to be gathering up all the tools and parts we can find economically, and just like here, his makes it possible to put shooters and their needed piece papers together. Just don’t ask for my last one in 32 S&W, H&R and 327!

Green Frog
03-12-2020, 09:22 AM
That loks like a Lee to me too. They used to sell a kit that had the Whack a mole die and a prime tool like that.
Some where caliber specific others had interchangeable shell holders. A lot of people like that tool
Perhaps some of the people that know more about them, such as Pressman or Froggie se thius they can tell you what that shell holder fits and if and where you may find ones you can use.
Leo

This topic has been pretty well discussed here, but friend 44magLeo has brought up one point I’d like to clarify. The “branch” of the Lee group that split off and became Mequon made an “Improved” loading set that had a red plastic priming tool that had a shell holder resembling and lettered like the ones we’ve been discussing here. I don’t know whether they were threaded the same as they are solidly affixed and I’ve never felt the need to destroy one to find out. My gut feeling and the operation of these red tools makes me think they are just a fixed holder, plastic version of the aluminum Lee unit. I never saw them for sale as a separately packaged new unit, only as part of the “Improved” set or as orphans from somebody’s parts bin. :wink:

While I’m typing, I’ll say some more about The aluminum tools with screw-in shell holders. :coffeecom They were apparently available as part of the Target (“Zero Error”) set and as a separate unit packaged for individual sale. As the chart in the link above showed, there were over 30 shell holders available for it... probably more than any other shell holder set. These shell holders were available individually too, packed in a clear envelope with a card printed with an application chart on it. I believe it is possible to “cheat” a little and substitute some holders that are “close enough” as the differences in many of them are quite insignificant. [smilie=1:

Other than the bewildering array of shell holders, the only other disadvantages I have found with these “1st generation” hand priming tools are that they can have the handles broken off from too much pressure and the combination of aluminum and steel parts can lead to undue wear with long usage. I exercise restraint to prevent the first problem and try to remember to put a little dab of heavy grease on the base of the priming rod (where it rides against the internal cam) to alleviate the second. Of course I have also accumulated what I expect to be a lifetime supply of odd priming tools and parts to cover breakage or loss! 8-)

Froggie

PS It is worth mentioning here that I collect priming tools, but with all of them I have, I tend to return to the 1st generation Lee tool time after time. For me it just works! 8-)

rayh
03-12-2020, 04:30 PM
Back in 1972 Neil Jones would modify the shell holder. The K&M priming tool uses the same design. I once asked Ken when visiting with him. He told me Neil gave him permission to use the design. It really improved the already excellent Lee primer. I keep a little moly on the hinge and it's been trouble free for MANY thousands of cases.

gumbo333
03-12-2020, 06:19 PM
I still have my first reloading set up, a Lee deluxe in 6mm rem and the plastic/ rubber hammer that I bought to whack it with. It has that hand primer in it. I used the primer for many years. Must be about 1970 vintage. Oh the good ole days. But today is a bunch better.

onelight
03-12-2020, 06:38 PM
I still have my first reloading set up, a Lee deluxe in 6mm rem and the plastic/ rubber hammer that I bought to whack it with. It has that hand primer in it. I used the primer for many years. Must be about 1970 vintage. Oh the good ole days. But today is a bunch better.
I don't miss my using my Lee loader either about same vintage as yours it floats to the top of a box stuff once in a while and still has the 9.95 price tag on it loaded 45 colt with it for several years.

Pressman
03-12-2020, 08:58 PM
I just looked at my Red Plastic Lee. It has the "L", 38spl shellholder that is molded in, it cannot be removed. Really, too bad as it is the most ergonomic of all the Lee designs.

Bent Ramrod
03-13-2020, 08:54 AM
I had one of those red plastic Mequon tools with the cast-in metal shell holder. The thumb lever finally broke after priming a thousand or so .45-70s. I think it was originally for a .348, but it worked for .45-70 as well.

I busted up the remainder of the plastic housing to get the shell holder out. It has a flange on the bottom like a snap-in shell holder, but the proportions are wrong for popping into a standard press ram.

I wound up doing something to it (can’t remember what at this remove) to make it fit on the bottom of a Charles Newton reloading tool. Made a priming stake to fit and planned to continue its use as a priming tool. Unfortunately, it’s always at the bottom of my pile of “collectibles” when I need it, so I usually wind up priming with other, more compact tools that are more convenient to the reloading bench.

Green Frog
03-13-2020, 09:53 AM
BR, thanks for that... you’ve saved me the need to destroy one of my red plastic tools only to be disappointed! At last count, I have these tools for 32-40, 38 Special and an unknown example that may be for the PPC series of bench rest cartridges.

If I get really ambitious in the machine shop, I’d like to make a brass version of the old Gen 1 Lee tool since I’ve put in the effort to collect a pile of shell holders. I’ve got what should be a lifetime supply of the originals, but brass would take more abuse and certainly look more cool! 8-)

Froggie

EDG
03-13-2020, 05:59 PM
The old style screw in type priming tool has taken on a cult status among some of those fortunate to have used them way back when.
Several years ago I had a dead one (threads stripped) with a good lever that I swapped to a member of Boolits for a shell holder for the .25-20. So I got a needed shell holder and the guy who got the handle got to keep an old tool in use.

Green Frog
03-13-2020, 07:14 PM
I had one that had an ungainly aluminum plate glued on where the handle should have been, but I just kept it until I stumbled on another one, incomplete but with a good handle. Took about five minutes to make a good one, and I still have a couple of odd parts around for the next broken one. ;)

As for the "cult status" you mention, I actually discovered them long after they were discontinued, but it didn't take me long to recognize a good thing. At last count I think there were 6 or seven of them in the shop, along with a real hodge-podge of threaded shell holders. As I stated previously, for pistol and revolver cartridges, I've never found a priming tool I like better. (and I collect priming tools!)

Froggie

gumbo333
03-22-2020, 10:52 AM
After that first Lee hand primer Lee made a faster hand primer. One with a round primer tray, held a tray of primers, you could easily change from large primer size to small primer. They were the best. Then Lee came out with an improved design, one with a square tray. You could still switch from large to small primer size easily. These were the worst ever. I have a newer Lee bench mounted primer, not the greatest, you have to learn how to use it. The round one is the best, then the very first single primer model, mine came in a 6mm Rem deluxe target set, late 60's. Still have it. The pot metal dog bone link inside is a weak spot on all these.

GOPHER SLAYER
03-22-2020, 05:08 PM
Found more priming tools. See original post for pictures.

RedlegEd
03-22-2020, 05:28 PM
Hi all,
I too have, and love the old Lee priming tool. Here's a card from an original shell holder that lists all the holders and what they're used for. Hope it helps.
Ed

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Green Frog
03-23-2020, 12:22 PM
Thanks, Ed. I have several of those cards around here somewhere, but it seems like every one of them is damaged in some way. I've got your jpeg in my archives now ~ MUCHAS GRACIAS!

Froggie