IndySteve
03-02-2020, 12:40 PM
First, let me explain why I don't cast myself.
HOLY CRAP getting started with everything would "hard" on my SS budget! I priced "starter kits" added cost of a couple bullet molds, sizer, lube........then figuring out where to find lead> Yish. I keep remembering the HUNDREDS of lbs of lead sheeting my Dad (roofer) had stacked up in the family junk shed and wondering if my brother glamed onto that or what. Dad's passing was not an amicable time among siblings....aka, I didnt get squat. LOL
Anyway, TMI.
Bought a CZ 527 American "Rustic" (cheap as heck right now till gone). FUN rifle but J bullets are limited to say the least. Going to TRY some .308 bullets but the bore slugs .3114-.3115. I have a feeling it will be a fruitless attempt.
Finding .312-.313 cast bullets of any weight is a waste of time......except for one. Missouri bullets makes a 167 grain .3115 HARD cast. 20 Brinell. Thinking of ordering a box of 250 but......I'm here asking for HELP!! (again)
20 Brinell? How dang fast that have to be going to EXPAND on deer? Not like this is a 358 or 458 caliber. Also thought of picking up .310 cast on proper weight and coating them to give me more diameter. Ranges to 150 yards 165 grains seems to be stuck in my head but experienced opinions on that are also welcome.
For those that may not realize it and offered as SOMETHING I can bring to the forum's table, reforming 6.5 Grendel ( Lapua) brass to 7.62x39mm gives one the strength of the small primer base and it's also has approx 9-10 percent more capacity than the Lapua 7.62x39mm brass (which I'm being told is unusually LOW capacity wise). Shooting Speer Gold Dot 123 (actually MEASURES .311 not .310 as advertised) one can bump up velocity....."considerably" without any kind of pressure signs.
Also note that ALL CZ 527 rifles have a SMALL firing pin so, nothing needs to be changed on the rifle.
SOME may not feel the SRP brass has the ability to take higher pressure. Too each their own and I feel each should do what they feel is appropriate so I'd prefer to NOT debate that subject.
I'll only pass along that within my own loadings over the decades the difference is quite dramatic......IF one wants to push the envelope a bit.
Back on topic. .3114 ish bore. .3115 hard cast 167 grain. 9.5 twist............is that going to shoot worth a dang and will a 20 Brinell boolit expand AT ALL starting out 2000 fps (ish)?
Sorry for being wordy.........."pain meds" (let's not go there, lol) make me a bit gabby.
God Bless for any help or opinions.
Steve
HOLY CRAP getting started with everything would "hard" on my SS budget! I priced "starter kits" added cost of a couple bullet molds, sizer, lube........then figuring out where to find lead> Yish. I keep remembering the HUNDREDS of lbs of lead sheeting my Dad (roofer) had stacked up in the family junk shed and wondering if my brother glamed onto that or what. Dad's passing was not an amicable time among siblings....aka, I didnt get squat. LOL
Anyway, TMI.
Bought a CZ 527 American "Rustic" (cheap as heck right now till gone). FUN rifle but J bullets are limited to say the least. Going to TRY some .308 bullets but the bore slugs .3114-.3115. I have a feeling it will be a fruitless attempt.
Finding .312-.313 cast bullets of any weight is a waste of time......except for one. Missouri bullets makes a 167 grain .3115 HARD cast. 20 Brinell. Thinking of ordering a box of 250 but......I'm here asking for HELP!! (again)
20 Brinell? How dang fast that have to be going to EXPAND on deer? Not like this is a 358 or 458 caliber. Also thought of picking up .310 cast on proper weight and coating them to give me more diameter. Ranges to 150 yards 165 grains seems to be stuck in my head but experienced opinions on that are also welcome.
For those that may not realize it and offered as SOMETHING I can bring to the forum's table, reforming 6.5 Grendel ( Lapua) brass to 7.62x39mm gives one the strength of the small primer base and it's also has approx 9-10 percent more capacity than the Lapua 7.62x39mm brass (which I'm being told is unusually LOW capacity wise). Shooting Speer Gold Dot 123 (actually MEASURES .311 not .310 as advertised) one can bump up velocity....."considerably" without any kind of pressure signs.
Also note that ALL CZ 527 rifles have a SMALL firing pin so, nothing needs to be changed on the rifle.
SOME may not feel the SRP brass has the ability to take higher pressure. Too each their own and I feel each should do what they feel is appropriate so I'd prefer to NOT debate that subject.
I'll only pass along that within my own loadings over the decades the difference is quite dramatic......IF one wants to push the envelope a bit.
Back on topic. .3114 ish bore. .3115 hard cast 167 grain. 9.5 twist............is that going to shoot worth a dang and will a 20 Brinell boolit expand AT ALL starting out 2000 fps (ish)?
Sorry for being wordy.........."pain meds" (let's not go there, lol) make me a bit gabby.
God Bless for any help or opinions.
Steve