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Thumbcocker
03-01-2020, 07:25 PM
Bought this centennial (1970) 336 a while back. Stuck on a Tasco golden antler 3x9 and tried some Ranch Dog 165's. So far 17 of 2400 is the best grouper.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200301/92614b0999046fcf9c0859ec0308227b.jpg

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.45colt
03-02-2020, 06:02 AM
Looks like it's working pretty Good !!:grin:

Texas by God
03-02-2020, 08:52 AM
A few clicks to the right and Bingo. That Will Work.

dverna
03-02-2020, 09:01 AM
And ten clicks up...all set out to 200 yards.

Nice group!!

Thumbcocker
03-02-2020, 09:45 AM
This gun does not like to be shot with the fore end resting on the bag. It prefers to have the fore end held and pulled back into the shoulder firmly with the hand on the bag. I only had 6 of the 17 grain loads with me so I don't know if this is a fluke or not. I believe it was Mr. Asperly who said "every rifle has one good group in it". Hopefully this rifle has a few more.

pietro
03-02-2020, 11:06 AM
This gun does not like to be shot with the fore end resting on the bag.

It prefers to have the fore end held and pulled back into the shoulder firmly with the hand on the bag.

I only had 6 of the 17 grain loads with me so I don't know if this is a fluke or not.




No fluke...………. The Gold Standard for shooting rifles with two-piece stocks off the bench is to not let ANY part of the rifle's wood or metal surfaces to touch anything except a part of the shooter's body.

Best accuracy is achieved by firmly grasping the stock with both hands, with the forehand held down firmly with the hand between the forend and the front rest - at the same time also pulling the rifle back into the shoulder.

The trigger hand also grasps the buttstock tightly while also pulling the rifle back into the shoulder, insuring that the toe of the buttstock doesn't contact the rear rest or benchtop - leaving the trigger finger free to fire the gun.


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Norske
03-02-2020, 11:43 AM
Two-piece stocks are usually attached to the barrel so the fore end shouldn't rest on the sandbag. Your method works very well, but so does resting the receiver on the bag. Either works for my Savage 99, Marlin 1894, and Marlin 1895.

trapper9260
03-02-2020, 11:56 AM
No fluke...………. The Gold Standard for shooting rifles with two-piece stocks off the bench is to not let ANY part of the rifle's wood or metal surfaces to touch anything except a part of the shooter's body.

Best accuracy is achieved by firmly grasping the stock with both hands, with the forehand held down firmly with the hand between the forend and the front rest - at the same time also pulling the rifle back into the shoulder.

The trigger hand also grasps the buttstock tightly while also pulling the rifle back into the shoulder, insuring that the toe of the buttstock doesn't contact the rear rest or benchtop - leaving the trigger finger free to fire the gun.


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Did not know this . Thanks for posting always learning something new on here

gumbo333
03-02-2020, 04:29 PM
As with what Norske said, I've had the best groups fired off sandbags with both Marlin and Henry levers in many calibers with the rear half of the front forearm resting on the sandbag. Never could get as good of groups with my hand under or holding the forearm. With both Marlin and Henry 30/30's and 45/70's, an inch or less at a hundred with the sweet loads. But I shoot left handed so I'm backwards in most respects.

444ttd
03-02-2020, 05:10 PM
i am left handed hand and due to a stroke, i don't have the use of my right arm.


i was sighting the 35/30-30 in on a sandbag( DIY pant leg and sand:wink:)
100 yards 200gr fn gc, 20.0gr of 2400/tuft of dacron
shoot 2 shots, move the back sight, shoot 2 shots, move the back sight....

Gtek
03-02-2020, 05:15 PM
^^^^^^^When standing holding the rifle to shoot, that's where you hold it sitting at the bench with back of hand on rest and back straight and roll with it. I was told this many moons ago and seems to work out pretty well, especially with the boomers!

northmn
03-03-2020, 11:15 AM
I ran into fits with a 336 which had a slightly short stock and learned my lesson about holding it tight to the shoulder. As I sight in a hunting rifle I prefer to rest on my hand as that is what will likely occur in the field. Another thing about these lever rifles that may be seen on your target. They tend to walk as the barrel heats. My 336 30-30 is good for a bout 3 shots with a J bullet then needs to cool down a bit. Some do some relief work on the barrel rings. I had one 35R that would walk to the right. Had to do some wood relief on it. When you shoot them look for that. Knew a gunsmith that was paid to sight in deer rifles. He would take the 94's and 336's out and shoot them a couple of times then go to a different rifle till they cooled. That can be remedied and some don't walk, but often they do.

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curdog
03-03-2020, 01:06 PM
Would anyone know where to get a mold like this? Thank you in advance and that's a nice group Thumbcocker…...……………......curdog

FredBuddy
03-03-2020, 01:43 PM
Curdog:

I got the 165 gr Ranchdog from NOE - very nice.

I prefer the moulds that have both plain base
and gas check cavities.

Still working on loads. Gonna try Thumbcocker's
2400 load in my 788.

Thumbcocker
03-03-2020, 03:26 PM
Mold is an NOE. I need to cast up a bunch this weekend. Let us know how you make out Fred.

missionary5155
03-03-2020, 05:20 PM
Good afternoon
Does the mind and heart good when the pieces fall into place.
What I would do is try that load again. Then at 17.2 and 16.8. You may just end up with most slugs touching.
Mike in LLama Land

curdog
03-05-2020, 11:16 AM
Thank you for the info...………………..curdog