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TCLouis
02-26-2020, 10:16 PM
Have only shot cast (will only shoot cast from it also) and have NOT worked up an accurate load yet, but it is place them real close to POA so far. Well 266 yards off of cross sticks and a really wimpy load was pushing it the other day but FUN.
NO "Romp em Stomp em" loads planned for my uses.
After All I had Read, I was hoping that remington's damage was finally over

The only thing I MIGHT change is the trigger.
No creep, smooth and breaks clean but seems heavy compared to what I am used to.
Have not looked inside or at a drawing, but assume (there is that word) that one lightens pull by narrowing or thinning the trigger spring.

Guess I had best find a blow up drawing . . . Huh?
At least before I go too far with this thread.

Hard to make out from the blow up drawing, but it looks like this gun uses one leg of the trigger safety spring as a trigger spring.

Now I gotta get shed of this Rossi 92 357 Mag to finance this new possessio.

kungfustyle
02-26-2020, 11:25 PM
What flavor is your 1895?

cwtebay
02-27-2020, 12:37 AM
Are you talking Marlin? Winnie? Or maybe a Lee Navy!

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TCLouis
02-27-2020, 02:50 AM
It is the 22" barrel 4+1 model which does not seem to have a unique Marlin model identifier.

upr45
02-27-2020, 09:43 AM
Trigger should lighten up after use, leave cross bolt safety on, cock & pull trigger, keep slight thumb pressure on trigger, you should feel it lightening after several hundred times. I would try to "wear" in before cutting spring coils.

murf205
03-02-2020, 01:36 PM
If your 1895 is like mine, when you make it "romp" on one end, it "stomps" on the back end!

Drm50
03-02-2020, 02:54 PM
I have a 1970 model Marlin 1895 with 22" barrel. The only thing I ever did to mine was remove about 25% of the stock & forearm. The wood is now flush with reciever and wide thick shotgun butt is now straight like an original. For years just kept rifle as a range toy and shot nothing but cast on targets with moderate loads.
A few years ago Ohio got limited rifle season for deer and the 1895 was only legal rifle I had. Loaded it up with 300gr Hornady HPs and hot load of IMR-3031. It now let's you know it's there when you touch it off. Didn't help when I reduced the area of butt plate when I thinned out the stock. It is unpleasant to shoot off bench with hot loads.

Petander
03-03-2020, 06:47 PM
I have a 1970 model Marlin 1895. It is unpleasant to shoot off bench with hot loads.

I have one tooth missing in my jaw on the right side,I call it "my Marlin tooth hole".

My first mold was a single cavity 405 grain Lee ,around 2000. I cast 1000 thousand bullets right away, first session, ladle,open fire...

I fired thousands and thousands of 2000+ fps loads from a bench the following years, I was young and stupid, now not so young any more. I soon added a recoil pad but it still kicked...

But I love all Marlins in 45-70, I also I shoot them faster than any other rifle because I practised so much back then. Lift it up and it's right there,bang. The ergonomy/action got memorized pretty good. I practise all kinds of shooting with a beeper.

Marlins are addictive - and can hurt from the bench. The SBL is a bit easier.

Winger Ed.
03-03-2020, 07:07 PM
Have only shot cast (will only shoot cast from it also).

I sure like mine and have only shot the RCBS 405GC.
I'd have to get a part time job to be able to afford j-words for it.

It took me awhile to figure out which end was more dangerous than the other.
The decision became easier when I started loading the old trapdoor recipes for regular shooting inside of 150 yards.
If I wasn't such a tight wad, I'd get a mold for a lighter boolit.

I've still got some recipes for pumped up loads----- just in case I ever draw a instate hunting tag for wooly mammoths.

TCLouis
03-03-2020, 09:06 PM
My plan is 1,000-1500 fps and cast only.
I get 1565 (300 gr. Hornady coated HP)out of my Contender in pistola configuration if I need fast.

Ain't going after anything, but paper, steel, deer so those will cover me at any distance I plan to shoot, paper or game.

Drm50
03-03-2020, 10:02 PM
My target/ plinker boolit is Lyman Ideal 322gr Gould Express HP. I was only shooting to 400 yds.

missionary5155
03-04-2020, 10:35 AM
Good morning
If you fire off a 400 grain slug at 1500 fps you should not have any issue with any critter still walking about our fair nation. Mid Tennessee is a fine place. When we lived there (76-82) we hunted a farm in those parts. All sorts of good eating critters.
For everyday plinking we shoot plain wheel weight.
For hunting we use 50 / 50 (WW-lead) and have always had good expansion at the exit and complete penetration. That is with a 350 flat nose slug. But we hunt river bottoms and brushy woods so shots are normally well under 50 yards.

TCLouis
03-05-2020, 12:08 PM
M5155

Where in Mid TN?
That is a time period when the populations locally were beginning to expand nicely.
I plan on 345-366 grainer , depending on which boolit does best on paper at 1200-1600 fps.
300 grain coated HP at 1565 fps if I use the Contender
Should properly ventilate/drain anything I plan to take at the distances I plan /set up to shoot.
Any further then it will be up to far less interesting tools.

Norske
03-05-2020, 12:51 PM
Try 38.5 gr IMR 3031 under a 400 gr cast bullet. It will provide the same ballistics and recoil of over-the-counter factory loads like Remingtons. If you're buying your cast bullets, make sure they have a flat (not beveled) base or are gas checked. You will get gas cutting with bevel based bullets.

TCLouis
03-05-2020, 11:44 PM
NO Problemo, unless I buy them here on this site, everything I load is cast out of my pot.
Bullets likely lighter than 400 gr as I do not have a mold that drops anything above 366 grains.

This is weird, but when I open this thread it has MARLIN in the title and yet I do not see Marlin in the title out in the main thread.

MT Chambers
03-06-2020, 06:15 AM
M5155

Where in Mid TN?
That is a time period when the populations locally were beginning to expand nicely.
I plan on 345-366 grainer , depending on which boolit does best on paper at 1200-1600 fps.
300 grain coated HP at 1565 fps if I use the Contender
Should properly ventilate/drain anything I plan to take at the distances I plan /set up to shoot.
Any further then it will be up to far less interesting tools.

Sorry, but populations can not expand nicely.

smithnframe
03-06-2020, 07:16 AM
Unless it has Ballard rifling it will only get mediocre accuracy with cast bullets. I've had one since 1973!

TCLouis
03-08-2020, 03:57 PM
smithnframe
I think they all have Ballard rifling now.
I would not have gone with Microgroove it that were still the case though many here at "Cast Boolits and on the net have got them to shoot well with that style rifling.

Drm50
03-08-2020, 04:24 PM
I'm not convinced that Micro Groove barrels won't shoot cast. I think it's like any other rifles, it's individual guns with boolits sized right. I think the Micro Groove deal is a urban legend. I've seen to many MG barrels shoot excellent with cast, even 30/30s. I've seen quite a few new 1895s that aren't anything to write home about with cast or jackets.

44Blam
03-12-2020, 10:49 PM
I have a newish Marlin 1895 and I love it. It has never had a copper jacketed round through it.

I had a nice load with Trailboss that made that gun shoot with a recoil similar to a .22.

I like shooting varget in it, though. You have to go upper end with that powder but it is more like a big push than a jarring recoil. I cannot shoot it from a bench, though. It hurts shooting braced - you have to let your body absorb the recoil. But you hit a steel target at 100 yards and it sure makes the target dance! :D

Some people use A2400 with a dacron wad for lower velocity loads - there's a lot of info on this site.

murf205
03-13-2020, 10:13 AM
258518 This was sent to me by a member here and he, as well as a lot of people, find Unique a very accurate reduced power load. In my Marlin Cowboy I am still using the last of my SR 4759 for less than "romp and stomp" loads. I talked to Shooters World powders and they told me that their Buffalo Rifle powder was friendly to load down kinda' like 5744 but quite a bit more affordable. Your gun has the short magazine and it might just be me but I have witnessed better accuracy from the short magazine guns than those that have the full length mag that is attached to the barrel closer to the muzzle. Keep us posted on how it shoots and good luck.

TCLouis
03-13-2020, 08:28 PM
I guess powder usage will include (star) with Unique, 4759, 5744, maybbe 2200 if I can get a decent load.
I should use 8700 for plinking though since I have 4 jugs of it.
As inefficient as it seems to be I am wondering if there will be a fouling build-up in the barrel from it.

Dang got a cold that has knocked me out of shooting . . . real range time and have not had a chance to see what it would do on paper.

An oak leaf at 106 is not safe from what I have shot it, with about 10-12" of penetration into native forest soil.

murf205
03-13-2020, 09:14 PM
I hope a cold is all that it is. That Marlin will suprise you as to what it will do accuracy wise. When you get to feeling better let us know how it shoots. Unless you already have some 4759 it will be hard to find as it has been discontinued. What a shame, it was a stellar performer in a 45/70.

GooseGestapo
03-14-2020, 01:50 AM
I don’t lighten the springs when doing trigger jobs on Marlins.
I reduce the sear engagement, the same as I would on a M1911 pistol. The triggers are very similar.
My favorite loads for the .45/70 are with #2400. 29.5gr under the RCBS .460” 300 gr FNGC. Gets 1,650fps from my 18.5” GuideGun, 1,725fps from M1895 REMLIN. I use 19.8gr under the Lee 400gr .458” HP ( discontinued single cavity hollow point mold). Gets about 1,350fps and VERY accurate.


I hope you don’t have that “Wuhan Floo” going around... (Coronavirus). Might be 3-4weeks getting over that bug from what I’m hearing.
This target was 3-shots at 50yds with the 2016 mfg’d REMLIN 1895. Bushnell Banner 2-7 with 400gr Lee.

Abert Rim
04-06-2020, 06:47 PM
TC, no surprise here but 15 to 17 grains of Unique under the Lee 340 was a very useful combination for plinking -- and I carried a couple of these for "finishers" or for use on small game while deer hunting with hotter condom loads in the Marlins. Man, I am getting the shakes to have an 1895 again.

Greg B.
04-07-2020, 03:26 PM
I have a late model JM 1895 with a 22" barrel and a 4X Leupold scope. The trigger pull was too heavy so a Wild West Happy Trigger was installed with the help of You Tube. Bolt in bolt out. Weight of pull was reduced to around 3 pounds or so with no more Marlin flop. Apparently a competent smith can significantly reduce this if desired.

Best group at 100 yds. has been 3.1" with the Lee plain base 405 gr. boolit. Some vertical stringing occurs when the barrel heats up. Given my shooting ability this should be adequate for any hunting I am liable to do.

TNsailorman
04-07-2020, 03:38 PM
I will miss 4759 also. I used it for ignition of black powder in the .43 Spanish. It gave good accuracy and much cleaner burning in that big case. I put the 5.0 grains of 4759 in the case over the flash hole and left the case on its base down until finished loading with powder and bullet so it kept it in place over the flash hole . Cases and barrel were much cleaner after I started using it. Was suggested to me by the ol man himself, Fred Huntington senior. I cut the black powder charge by 5.0 grains also. Guess I will have to find another "kicker" powder now as my 1lb. can of 4759 is about gone.Worked for me anyway, james