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jwhite
02-24-2020, 08:23 AM
For the last couple weeks or so I have been lugging a T/C contender carbine around in .22lr, it is fitted out with XS peep site setup and pretty handy. I have had it for years and never really used it much, i dug it out for my nephew to use but he wasn't all that interested so I decided i would use it. Shot a pile of squirrels and a few rabbits with it this winter while wandering around on my daily woods walk. The fact that it is so handy got me to thinking about maybe getting another barrel for it and a 32 H&R popped into my mind. Seems like it would be a perfect woods walking companion, I have a 357 handy rifle with a set of peep sites on and it is very accurate but barrel is quite heavy and the 357, even with light cast bullet loads is a bit more than I need horsepower wise. My other usual walking around gun is a Marlin 94CL 25/20, this is about perfect weight wise and very pleasant to lug around, only down side is the loading of the thin cases and poor case life. With a 32 H&R i would be splitting the bore size between the 25/20 and 357 and being a straight case I would be using carbide dies for fast and lube free reloading. I also have 500 starline 32 cases and several molds to feed it with.

Has anyone on here gone this route before and got any thoughts or suggestions? My father in law has a 32/20 contender carbine barrel, it is from the T/C custom shop but has a 308 bore and I would be back to lubing cases which i would like to avoid.

Looking around it seems that MGM would be the first choice as they actually offer a 311 barrel option, all the others only build their 32's on 308 barrels and this doesn't interest me at all. Only twist rate in that bore size is 1-10 which should be perfect, heaviest boolit i might use is a 314440 that i got for my 7.62x39's.Thinking a 23" medium weight barrel would be about ideal, the standard carbine profile is pretty light and a bit hard to hard steady. Would most likely got with a set of skinner peep sights mounted.

Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions you may have regarding a 32hr carbine barrel!

Jerry

Nueces
02-24-2020, 09:19 AM
I think it's a great idea. The 32 H&R is a modern equivalent of an ideal midbore English Rook Rifle round. It can be loaded for near silence with hollow base wadcutters and up to near 32-20 performance. Wonderful woods walking rifle round.

My version will be in a rebored William Evans break action Rook Rifle.

Jedman
02-24-2020, 10:29 AM
I have such a rifle in my plans now. I made one about 2 years ago on a very lightweight folding Yildiz 410 shotgun and chambered it to 32 H&R but the chamber was a little egg shaped at the case mouth due to using a reamer without a pilot. The fired cases were hard to extract so I eventually rechambered it to a shortened rimmed 300 blk.out.
I ordered a old rolling block 410 from Cabelas that they had in their used guns online a week ago and it still hasn't showed up. It looks perfect to become a 32 S& W or 32 H&R as it is very petite weighing only 2 lbs. 12 oz with a thin shotgun barrel. Once I get it and determine how strong and the condition of the action I plan to convert it to 32 H&R if it's in good condition. I figure a 410 shotshell has more breech thrust than the 32 H&R as the case head is over 40 % larger.
I plan on making it look like a early rook rifle and have a simple homemade peep sight for mostly 50 yards and less pest shooting as here at home I shoot more varmints of all types than targets or edible game by far.
I recently got on a 32 cal. kick as I had a 1892 Marlin rifle in 32 Colt long that I made brass for and have a heeled bullet mold for but it didn't feed smoothly so I rechambered it to 32 S&W with the case shortened by .025 and it now shoots and feeds well. Then I picked up a old S&W revolver in 32 and now plan the rook rifle.

Jedman

Green Frog
02-24-2020, 11:32 AM
I would say that in all likelihood it will make a great companion for lazy days in the woods. About 30 years ago I built a 32 H&R chambered Winchester low wall based on a 32 rim fire. Bore was marginal, but with jacketed bullets it shot well. With a good barrel it would have been a world beater! A light rifle in a 32 pistol class caliber is just an all around fun project. If I were using the TC platform, I'd probably chamber to 327 Fed Mag instead of 32 H&R, just to get a little more flexibility. It should still shoot the H&R round well too.

Regards and good luck!
Green Frog

Froggie

RJM52
02-24-2020, 11:47 AM
Probably could not do better for a fun woods wondering long gun...

I've got a TC Carbine and at one point had a lot of barrels as I live were TC "used" to be made before bought and moved by S&W... The only two barrels I have left are an 18" Custom Shop .22 Long Rifle and a TCA 16.5" .41 Magnum barrel...

Since I now have a "few" .32s {Think I caught the bug from a GreenFrog} have been thinking about a 18-20" MGM .327 barrel.... Just found a TCA 12" Octagon barrel in .32 H&R that is supposed to have a .308 bore that CWlongshot and I plan on playing with shortly...and maybe open up to .327...

Bob

scotth
02-24-2020, 07:44 PM
i ave a ssk-50 frame on order trying to figure what i want for a barrel thinking 32 h&r or 327fm leaning towards the 327.. i have no trouble with the 311 bore but i don't know about the 1&10 twist. want to shot heavy's i have the sledge hammer mold but thinking about getting a accurate #31-135S mold. i'am in the same boat as you.

Shawlerbrook
02-24-2020, 07:54 PM
The Contenders are addicting. Beware !

NoZombies
02-24-2020, 08:09 PM
I've got a custom 10" barrel in 32 long for the contender frame, and several .32 caliber rifles. You won't be disapointed by the fun factor and usefulness as a woodswalking gun.

Rapidrob
02-24-2020, 08:35 PM
If it were mine, I'd have it re-chambered to .327 Federal Magnum, then you could shoot a larger variety of calibers from plinking to hunting.

scotth
02-24-2020, 09:08 PM
any opinion's on the 1&10 twist in a carbine barrel.

cwlongshot
02-24-2020, 09:09 PM
I too have recently need infatuated by the 327. I have a couple 32/20’s and shot them allot years ago. I resist the urge because of the 32/30’s.

But would enjoy a 327 rifle or Carbine

CW

jwhite
02-24-2020, 09:16 PM
I shoot several 7.62x39's with a 1-10 twist with light loads, 32h&r equivalent and they all seem to work very well

jwhite
02-24-2020, 09:23 PM
Guess I need to do some more research, had not heard a thing about the SSK-50 until the replies to this post. Might be worth an inquiry to SSK to see if they will do a .311-.312 barrel in 32 H&R. I had toyed with the idea of getting one of the new G2 frames if I was to go ahead and order a new barrel but haven't really made up my mind yet, maybe the SSK-50 would be a better choice. My old style Contender frame has a wonder full trigger, only thing i dislike about it the the fact you have to re-cock after letting hammer back down.

NoZombies
02-24-2020, 09:25 PM
If it were mine, I'd have it re-chambered to .327 Federal Magnum, then you could shoot a larger variety of calibers from plinking to hunting.
I think you were writing to me, and I suspect that if it were the only .32 option I had, I might do that, but it's one of many for me, so no need for versatility with the other stuff I've got.

GARD72977
02-24-2020, 09:34 PM
I would keep it a 32 H&R. There is no reason for the extra case capacity if you have the 357. I would even consider a shorter 32 case. The 1/10 would do well with 130ish bullets under 1000 fps

scotth
02-24-2020, 09:43 PM
The 1/10 would do well with 130ish bullets under 1000 fps

i think in a carbine barrel could be more in the 2000 to 2300 fps range

jwhite
02-24-2020, 10:15 PM
I have no intentions of a 327 mag, got 500 starline 32 h&r cases and a safe full of bigger, faster, loader rifles if needed; 32 H&R would be perfect and 90% of the time a lighter load similar to a 32 long would be plenty. For me a wood walking rifle needs to quiet, accurate and cheap & easy to load for.

Jedman
02-25-2020, 12:54 PM
Well said. Sometimes less is more and for myself I don't need a magnum.

Jedman

scotth
02-25-2020, 02:21 PM
the h&r was my first choice i have 1000 new brass but i also have a 1000 new 327 brass.

Ajohns
02-25-2020, 02:30 PM
I'm on my way to building two Hopkins and Allens. A 932 and one into a 938. Both will be made to the 6 o' clock extractor style. One in 32 s&w long and one in 38 s&w (short). From what I've used of the 32, they're a lot of fun and so cheap to load for. I almost always grab the 32 these days over a 22 long rifle. Both will go along with revolvers to match.

Green Frog
02-25-2020, 07:01 PM
I have no intentions of a 327 mag, got 500 starline 32 h&r cases and a safe full of bigger, faster, loader rifles if needed; 32 H&R would be perfect and 90% of the time a lighter load similar to a 32 long would be plenty. For me a wood walking rifle needs to quiet, accurate and cheap & easy to load for.

I suggested the 327 chambering not because you would have to shoot the longer cartridges in it but so you would be able to. I shot my old S&W Model 66 revolver with literally thousands of 38 Special rounds and probably about 100 357s. Just because I had a magnum chamber didn’t mean I had to use it.

The TC platform is more than strong enough to handle 327 Magnum pressures if you so desire and will shoot those 32 H&R rounds like nobody’s business. In his last public appearance Skeeter himself, in spite of his longstanding love affair with the 32-20, strongly encouraged me to go with a 32 H&R barrel for my TC, but that was a couple of decades before the arrival of the 327. He was pushing the envelope with his H&R loads s the early Single Sixes, so I’m sure he would have been first in line for the 327, but then it would have been possible to back off when the situation demanded it.

Froggie

NoZombies
02-25-2020, 07:15 PM
I'm on my way to building two Hopkins and Allens. A 932 and one into a 938. Both will be made to the 6 o' clock extractor style. One in 32 s&w long and one in 38 s&w (short). From what I've used of the 32, they're a lot of fun and so cheap to load for. I almost always grab the 32 these days over a 22 long rifle. Both will go along with revolvers to match.

Have fun!

I've got a H&A 932 in .32 S&W long, and it's a great deal of fun and very accurate.

NorthMoccasin
02-25-2020, 09:40 PM
I have had a contender carbine in 32 H&R for 15 years or so. It is the perfect small game and walking around rifle. An 85gr gc over 4.0 231 is all the small game hunter needs. It shoots less than 1" at 50 yds all day long. The Lyman 31108 over 7.8 2400 is suitable for heavier work. I can see no need for a 327 if you have a 357. 32 longs shoot well in this rifle as well. It has a 1-10 twist. I have shot the 150 gr 311414 over 7.5 gr 2400 with great accuracy as well . Go for it these little 32's are addicting!

Jeff Michel
02-25-2020, 10:07 PM
I've had mine for years, came from Fox Ridge when T/C was still cool enough to have a custom shop. All I can say is get one, great round, great rifle for toting in the woods.

bcelliott
02-25-2020, 10:38 PM
I've wanted my own .32 caliber rook rifle for quite some time. With a .32 S&W short or long case, a couple of grains of a fast powder, and a flat-nosed or wadcutter bullet, a 26" rifle is nearly silent and kills far better than a rimfire. I've written Henry to ask them to chamber their single shot in .327 Federal or .32 H&R so I can shoot the silent stuff, but no joy yet. At the 2020 SHOT show, this new company Midland Arms showed their single shot rimfires and shotguns, and has plans to bring out affordable centerfires.

https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/midland-backpacker-22lr-shot-show-2020/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=20200128_SHOT6g&utm_campaign=/digest/midland-backpacker-22lr-shot-show-2020/

I wrote to them asking them for a .32 chambering as well and received a standard reply. Their website is:

https://www.shootmidland.com/collections/firearms

It might be worth multiple people writing to them to request a .32 rifle. It would be affordable and will accept a red dot or scope.

In the meantime, any of you have an extra single shot .32 you want to sell?

marcusp323
02-26-2020, 02:59 AM
Picked up a Contender a couple months back with carbine length barrels in 218 Bee & 32 H&R, both from the custom shop. So little recoil from the 32, & pretty accurate to boot. What's not to like?

Ajohns
02-26-2020, 08:51 AM
The problem with buying a new, single barrel for a Contender from say MGM, is that they're expensive. Don't get me wrong, I love the old style rifles. I like the Contender and own one. But 400some odd dollars for a single barrel I can buy two new 22's. One for me and my boy. Used barrels are around, so I usually keep my eyes open. Ebay and such.

Jack Stanley
02-26-2020, 10:47 AM
My Contender is chambered for the Badger but I like your idea of a straight case for ease of loading . Both the Contender and my Browning 32WCF need lube but the .32 magnum wasn't an option when I got the Browning . Well ... that and the fact I load enough to have some on hand all the time makes the fuss with lube not such a problem .

I wouldn't give up on either cartridge I'm using but , if I was doing it all over I like the stretched .32 performance .

Jack

jwhite
02-26-2020, 08:49 PM
The problem with buying a new, single barrel for a Contender from say MGM, is that they're expensive. Don't get me wrong, I love the old style rifles. I like the Contender and own one. But 400some odd dollars for a single barrel I can buy two new 22's. One for me and my boy. Used barrels are around, so I usually keep my eyes open. Ebay and such.

I agree fully about the cost, the .311 barrels have an extra cost premium added to them and by the time I added Skinner or XS sights and a new forend I would have close to $600 bucks into a new 32 barrel from MGM. Seems crazy? Hard to put a price tag on “gun happiness” but does make you stop and think. I got a couple 18” Green Mountain.312 blanks I bought years ago and I might attempt a barrel stubbing project. Can’t seem to shake the .32 H&R single shot from my mind so I got to do something!

ozo
02-27-2020, 02:42 AM
I have most of the configurations ever offered in .327fed [2"-6" bbl].
I also have a Custom Shop 23" .327fed [M4 stock and glass]....it is sweet sweet sweet.
The .308dia is fine with Berry's plated and lead and coated.

I, too, have requested Henry to chamber the single-shot in .327fed,
as well as Ruger in the [M77/327]

mattw
02-27-2020, 09:51 AM
I have been having the same thought. I really like the 32 H&R and it would pair well with the 631. My goto carbine barrel is 17HMR, good reach, low noise and fairly cheap ammo.

Larry Gibson
02-27-2020, 10:30 AM
Thinking of the same. I'm considering a BR "shot out" longer barrel in 30 BR with a 16 - 18" twist as a basis to have a custom Contender barrel made and chambered in 32 H&R magnum as I too have no use for the 327...…

Then again my #3 Ruger in 22 hornet is shot out so I may have it re-bored to .308-.312, given a 16 - 18" twist and chambered in 32 H&R magnum...…..

GARD72977
02-27-2020, 05:44 PM
A Ruger No. 3 in a 32 H&R would be a real nice set up

Green Frog
02-28-2020, 10:38 AM
Thinking of the same. I'm considering a BR "shot out" longer barrel in 30 BR with a 16 - 18" twist as a basis to have a custom Contender barrel made and chambered in 32 H&R magnum as I too have no use for the 327...…

Then again my #3 Ruger in 22 hornet is shot out so I may have it re-bored to .308-.312, given a 16 - 18" twist and chambered in 32 H&R magnum...…..

Please forgive the thread drift OP, but Larry has hit on a whole different level of cool. I’ve long speculated that the Ruger #3 Carbine is the ideal platform for this project, but of course I’d have to run the reamer in a little deeper and make a 327 FM out of it. If I ever grow wealthy and able to indulge my penthouse tastes, that will be one of my first projects.

Back to the original topic, TC enthusiasts around here have a successful history of stubbing shot out original barrels and making a mono-bloc with whatever caliber is desired. You could profile a NOS military Enfield barrel and fit it to the original stub, chamber it and fit a proper extractor, and you would be good to go. One more plug for chambering to 327, of course. ;)

Froggie

Deadeye Bly
02-28-2020, 11:09 AM
A year or so ago I lined a shot out Maynard barrel to 32 S&W Long. My intention was to duplicate the 32 rimfire with a centerfire cartridge. I had a 100 grain mold made by Tom at Accurate Molds. It was an endeavor well worth the time and effort. It's a great walk about rifle, short light and accurate. The TC carbine is just a modern Maynard and you will enjoy it immensely. Go with the H&R mag as you have the cases and dies. That way you can load it up or down depending on what you wish at the time. I prefer to keep my loads subsonic as it is a much quieter. That supersonic crack really ups the sound level. Go for it and have fun with it.

scotth
02-28-2020, 05:14 PM
i think i have decided to go with the 32 h&r for the first barrel 311 bore 1&10 twist. unless ssk can make me a deal on a 312 barrel. getting closer to april cant wait to get my hands on this new frame

MT Gianni
02-29-2020, 12:03 PM
I would look at a shorter bbl length. I don't think there would be much velocity loss to go to a 16 1/2" bbl with the 32 Mag.

Alferd Packer
02-29-2020, 02:06 PM
The .32 H&R is to the .327 as the .44 special is to the .44 Magnum.
The .32 H&R is special too.
With handloads and cast bullets it will do all I need.
A TC carbine in .32 H&R is perfect.
Thank you.

scotth
02-29-2020, 04:22 PM
to me the 32 h&r should make the perfect camp rifle for camp robbers like raccoons,possums,skunks,Armadillos and the likes. the 18.5 inch barrel will balance good not to long or to short easy to throw in the jeep or the truck. light and handy. and it should be good for small game hunting for camp meat. plus its cheap to reload and shoot. whats not to like.

rockrat
02-29-2020, 05:19 PM
check out edstc.com. He might have one. Probably have to call him as I don't think he keeps the website inventory updated

cwlongshot
03-01-2020, 08:01 AM
Is MGM our only option now?

Anyone else making a quality Carbine bbl?

CW

scotth
03-01-2020, 10:04 AM
we still have bullberry & ssk i think Gary Reeder is still advertising tc barrel work.

scotth
03-01-2020, 10:07 AM
i think eabco is still making barrels in house also.

Hackleback
03-01-2020, 11:27 AM
New Contender barrels are expensive, I wonder if you could have something like a 22 RF barrel rebored?

jwhite
03-01-2020, 03:50 PM
Is MGM our only option now?

Anyone else making a quality Carbine bbl?

CW

I believe MGM is the only option for a .311 bore, everyone else makes the 32 with a 308 bore. I really want a 311 or 312 as all my appropriate molds are 313/314

scotth
03-01-2020, 06:05 PM
if you ask most will do a .312 bore you may not like the price or the extra time but most will do.

Green Frog
03-01-2020, 11:22 PM
Kk
A year or so ago I lined a shot out Maynard barrel to 32 S&W Long. My intention was to duplicate the 32 rimfire with a centerfire cartridge. I had a 100 grain mold made by Tom at Accurate Molds. It was an endeavor well worth the time and effort. It's a great walk about rifle, short light and accurate. The TC carbine is just a modern Maynard and you will enjoy it immensely. Go with the H&R mag as you have the cases and dies. That way you can load it up or down depending on what you wish at the time. I prefer to keep my loads subsonic as it is a much quieter. That supersonic crack really ups the sound level. Go for it and have fun with it.

Hi Deadeye,

Your Maynard build sounds interesting. As you say, it’s just a 19th Century TC Contender Carbine (they just weren’t made a SS pistols.) The 32 S&W is a pretty mild round, even with standard (or slightly warmer) factory loads. How do you think it would be to take the OP’s idea of a 32 H&R applied to a Carbine and use that in an old Maynard? Too much of a good thing? Let’s talk it over next time I’m up there in your area for a Skirmish.

Froggie

MT Gianni
03-02-2020, 01:35 PM
http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/32hr.html
Ballistic by the inch in interesting. I am not sure I agree with a 15" and an 18" bbl each shooting higher velocities than a 16" and 17" but odd thing happen.

CuDa
08-20-2020, 10:14 AM
I've been shooting and a fan of the 32 H&R for over 25 years, having a Ruger SS in it ( wish I never sold it) to using my T/C for light hunting, target and even silhouette. The pistol barrel is fine with a .308 bore even using .312 and cast .314 bullets with my pet load of a Sierra 90 JHP over 7.6 of 2400 cutting .33" for a 5 shot at 50 yards, just need to work them up for the pressure load. I have also sized and shot with .308 and cast .309. With all that said my mentor used a .30 M1 barrel that had that extra horsepower the .327 offers but you could download it somewhat as well. The .327 would be my choice even if only available with a .308 bore for the flexibility it offers of adding 2200+ fps to the potential of this rifle barrel. The rifle would offer you a single gun covering everything between the 22LR and the 30-30 IMO in a single platform. You could carry 32ACP for the 800+, 32 S&W, 32 S&W Long, 32 H&R Mag and the 327. If you end up with a 308 bore I would handload them all, if you end up with a .310-312 bore you could use factory or handloads without a care.

jwhite
01-21-2024, 03:50 PM
[QUOTE=jwhite;4836199]For the last couple weeks or so I have been lugging a T/C contender carbine around in .22lr, it is fitted out with XS peep site setup and pretty handy. I have had it for years and never really used it much, i dug it out for my nephew to use but he wasn't all that interested so I decided i would use it. Shot a pile of squirrels and a few rabbits with it this winter while wandering around on my daily woods walk. The fact that it is so handy got me to thinking about maybe getting another barrel for it and a 32 H&R popped into my mind. Seems like it would be a perfect woods walking companion, I have a 357 handy rifle with a set of peep sites on and it is very accurate but barrel is quite heavy and the 357, even with light cast bullet loads is a bit more than I need horsepower wise. My other usual walking around gun is a Marlin 94CL 25/20, this is about perfect weight wise and very pleasant to lug around, only down side is the loading of the thin cases and poor case life. With a 32 H&R i would be splitting the bore size between the 25/20 and 357 and being a straight case I would be using carbide dies for fast and lube free reloading. I also have 500 starline 32 cases and several molds to feed it with.

Has anyone on here gone this route before and got any thoughts or suggestions? My father in law has a 32/20 contender carbine barrel, it is from the T/C custom shop but has a 308 bore and I would be back to lubing cases which i would like to avoid.

Looking around it seems that MGM would be the first choice as they actually offer a 311 barrel option, all the others only build their 32's on 308 barrels and this doesn't interest me at all. Only twist rate in that bore size is 1-10 which should be perfect, heaviest boolit i might use is a 314440 that i got for my 7.62x39's.Thinking a 23" medium weight barrel would be about ideal, the standard carbine profile is pretty light and a bit hard to hard steady. Would most likely got with a set of skinner peep sights mounted.

Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions you may have regarding a 32hr carbine barrel!

Jerry[/QUOTE322428322429]

Almost 4 years after this post I finally have a 32h&r barrel for my Contender!

DeadWoodDan
01-21-2024, 09:24 PM
Well I'm not a frequent poster but long standing member and you got my interest! Care to share what your final path was? I've have a high wall 32-20 with a bad pitted barrel that I've flirted with this path more than once. Like you the H&R is very versitile and well a rifel would go great along my Ruger BH. I only have my one contendar pistol with a few barrels but wish i would have picked up a rifle stock yrs ago.

Nobade
01-22-2024, 04:31 AM
Nice! Looks like it was worth the wait.

jwhite
01-22-2024, 08:03 AM
Been in the single digits here the last couple mornings so not the best condition for load testing. So far the best shooting load is the 100gr Hornady xtp with 9.4gr of AA9. This load was grouping into nice tight clusters at 50yards. 322462

jwhite
01-22-2024, 08:20 AM
The ranch dog 115gr bullet, gas checked & powder coated, is grouping well along with a store bought 120gr coated Missouri Bullet. 800x and AA7 both producing good results with cast boolits. Once I finish up testing loads I will probably pull the scope and install a Skinner receiver sight I have sitting here. I also had a surprise with the Hornady swaged semi wadcuttter, Ken Waters mentioned good success with those in his Pet Loads so I figured I would try a few. I loaded four of them with .3 cc dipper of 700x, I tried them while out for a walk shooting at knot on a spruce tree about 25yards away. I walked up after shooting and saw the base of a bullet, i pried it out and discovered I had stacked three of those bullets in the same hole! Granted only at 25 yards but would make a perfect quiet, low power squirrel load. 322464322465

jwhite
01-22-2024, 08:24 AM
I am also glad I went with the 23” barrel, it balances perfectly. I had thought about going with a 19” but it would have been heavy in the butt end if I had. All in all very happy with it. I ordered a Mihec 100gt hollow pointed last night that I hope will be the “ultimate” boolit for this project.

BobT
01-22-2024, 09:01 AM
Very nice looking little TC ! I have had a soft spot for the Contender for a long time and currently have 3 carbines with another waiting on furniture. Looks like you have a winner there.

gunther
01-22-2024, 10:35 AM
Will the contender handle a 30 carbine cartridge? Cases are pretty easy to find, and will last, and loading it down will get you into the velocity range you want. It was made for a .308 barrel. Custom TC contender barrels aren't any more expensive than reworking a 410 shotgun.

Nueces
01-22-2024, 12:14 PM
Will the contender handle a 30 carbine cartridge? Cases are pretty easy to find, and will last, and loading it down will get you into the velocity range you want. It was made for a .308 barrel. Custom TC contender barrels aren't any more expensive than reworking a 410 shotgun.

Yessir, the G1 Contender was available in 30 Carbine from the factory. I gots one such here. They be collectable now.

BobT
01-22-2024, 07:38 PM
They be collectable now.

They all be collectable now! :mrgreen:

Alchemist
01-23-2024, 10:20 PM
Dang you guys! Dropped into single shots to snoop for some chatter about 256 Winchester and this thread slammed me right between the eyes.

Jwhite, that is one beautiful rig! Looks like full bull barrel? How long did you have to wait for it? Thinking about doing a similar project.

JDHasty
01-24-2024, 12:20 AM
The 24 inch Contender carbine is just all that. Our first 17 Hornet and our first carbine barrel is an EABco I got for my daughter when she first started shooting chucks. In Washington state you need license and until she passed hunter education I was using it with a man size stock. With her 5-20 Nikon Monarch it is about the nicest little rifle to take a stroll with. It just carries nicely.

I was in central WA shooting with a couple buddies for a weekend when we first got it. My first shot was off hand at ~75 yards and dead centered a big chuck. We spent the rest of the weekend sharing that one rifle. All three of us bought CZ 527 Americans in 17 Hornet as soon as we got home and none of the three shot sub half inch groups like her Contender. Close, but she has us beat by about an eighth inch.

Here’s the deal though, that Contender balances and caries so nice. I’ve borrowed it a few times and left my CZ home. My two younger kids are very small in stature, I went with an MGM 21 inch tapered for their Contender 17 Hornets. It shoots as well as the heavy barrel, but has nowhere near the wonderful balance the heavier barrel has.

I’ve got an MP HP mold for my Single Seven. This thread sure gets me thinking about calling MGM and getting a 327 Federal 24 inch Contender barrel ordered up. 32 Mag or 327 Federal smoke deer with XTP bullets out of SSM and Single Seven revolvers, having a nice little 32 caliber Contender carbine would be a hoot.

JDHasty
01-24-2024, 12:32 AM
New Contender barrels are expensive, I wonder if you could have something like a 22 RF barrel rebored?

I think the answer to that is probably yes. Jesse at JES is set up to do 32-20. He doesn’t advertise it on his web site, but he does them.

jwhite
01-24-2024, 08:13 AM
Dang you guys! Dropped into single shots to snoop for some chatter about 256 Winchester and this thread slammed me right between the eyes.

Jwhite, that is one beautiful rig! Looks like full bull barrel? How long did you have to wait for it? Thinking about doing a similar project.
I ordered it on Labor Day and received it a few days after Christmas. Well worth the wait.

jwhite
01-24-2024, 08:18 AM
I have ordered a 314-640-100grain mild from Mihec, I think this will be the perfect mold for this 32 carbine. Should be able to duplicate the 100gr xtp speeds and performance with this hollow pointed boolit.

jwhite
01-28-2024, 10:04 AM
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Once again amazed at how fast MP molds are delivered to the US! Order the 314-640 mold Sunday night and had it before lunch on Thursday. First batch is coated and ready to load for the T/C this morning.

BobT
01-29-2024, 01:19 PM
Wow, fast shipping and pretty boolits! What color is that powder if you don't mind me asking?

jwhite
01-31-2024, 06:49 PM
Wow, fast shipping and pretty boolits! What color is that powder if you don't mind me asking?

Don’t remember the exact name but it is a purple that Smoke had in his powder listing on here. I went back to the safety blue as it seems to coat better with a thicker more uniform finish.