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marshall623
02-22-2020, 10:07 PM
I have found some WLR primers for a good price , but I have never used any . Does anyone have any experience and how are they compared to Fed. primers .
Thanks in advance .

Gofaaast
02-22-2020, 11:30 PM
Never had one not go bang. My go to standard LR primer for years. Only negative I ever found was they seem a smidgen smaller in diameter compared to cci and seated very easily in cases that have been reloaded many times or loaded on the warm side. Never had one back out or pierce, but I typically switch these old cases to cci.

Kevinakaq
02-23-2020, 12:19 AM
Buy with confidence! Many sub MOA groups and many deer. No worries with the WLR primers.

trails4u
02-23-2020, 12:22 AM
I have a ton of them in my inventory.....use them more than most others I have. Very consistent for me in rifle and pistol. I'd say go forth with confidence!

Winger Ed.
02-23-2020, 12:24 AM
I like 'em.
I buy CCI or Win. both depending on which one the local gun store has in stock.

In years past, I've used Federal primers.
They all worked, but I wasn't comfortable with how loose their LR and LP ones went in and fit compared to Win, or CCI.

Rapidrob
02-23-2020, 12:53 AM
They are my primer of choice for long range shooting.

barnabus
02-23-2020, 08:20 AM
I use them for pistols but nothing else.rifles get federal match.

GhostHawk
02-23-2020, 08:41 AM
CCI is my #1, Winchester is my #2. Been working my way through a thousand Win Large Rifle for the past 4 years, not a single issue yet.

Texas by God
02-23-2020, 10:18 AM
They are perfect. In my experience.

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Rich/WIS
02-23-2020, 10:57 AM
They are slightly hotter as they are formulated to ignite Winchester ball powders. They work fine with extruded powders but a better choice if you use ball powders.

veeman
02-23-2020, 12:45 PM
Rarely use anything else.

trapper9260
02-23-2020, 01:10 PM
I normal use them, very seldom use some thing different depends on what the store have but would normal get Win.

alfadan
02-23-2020, 01:40 PM
I've used wlr exclusively but recently had trouble with 2 batches. Even with moderate loads in 30.06 and 7 30 waters I was getting blown primers, with a little hole at the edge. A little googling found a list of lot numbers numerous people have found had this problem.
I guess Winchester is aware of the issue and is giving refunds. I'll try using these lots for blackpowder only, if they fail again, I'll trash them.

sharps4590
02-23-2020, 02:11 PM
Buy 'em

Jack Stanley
02-23-2020, 03:29 PM
I've used Winchester for a very long time and never had a problem including thousands of rounds loaded for a Garand .

Jack

EDG
02-23-2020, 04:31 PM
I began using Federal primers 50 years ago because that was all the local discount store (Gibson's) stocked. They were excellent primers too.

Time goes by and we have some hoarding shortages caused by Clinton and Obama.
When the shortage occurred Federal primers are the first to disappear and the last to reappear on the market. During the Clinton shortage I bought a brick of WW large rifle primers and shot them up. They were excellent. I also bought Remington large rifle primers and they were also excellent. So now I tend to ignore Federal primers unless they are plentiful at normal prices. Otherwise I can usually get a better deal on some other equally good brand.

richhodg66
02-23-2020, 04:36 PM
Winchesters are my standard. Not as soft as Federals, I keep some Federals around for a couple rifles that have light firing pin strikes.

alfadan
02-23-2020, 04:38 PM
I'll add that I continue to use them. I figure a few problems out of billions made is no big deal. I think I bought the bad ones at a gun show from a guy who knew he had the bad lot numbers, as it was during the shortage and he sold them at pre-shortage prices.

nvbirdman
02-23-2020, 10:30 PM
I think I'm down to my last 20K. Maybe I should buy some more.

Walks
02-23-2020, 10:44 PM
Used them for years without problems, until they switched to non-nickel plating in the early 2,000's. Then about 1 in 100 needed 2 hits to go off. The next 5,000 and everyone since has worked just Great.

samari46
02-24-2020, 01:07 AM
Years back always used Remington primers. Bought some rem-umc 9mm ammo to shoot in my Beretta 92fs. Happened to pick up an empty and had a neat little hole in it. In fact just about every one had a hole. Cost me a new firing pin and spring. Been using Win LR,SR,LP,and SR for close to 20 years no problems. Only other brand is CCI LRM magnum with IMR 4350 and 165 gr Nosler Ballictic tips pr 168 gr SMK's. Frank

higgins
02-24-2020, 01:15 AM
There was a problem with some lots of WLR a few (several?) years ago where some would rupture around the edge. I had three out of the same 100 pack rupture (in two rifles), but I had fired a couple or three hundred out of the same carton with no problem; it seemed random within certain lots. When they ruptured they etched the rifle bolt face. I switched to CCI 200s

Winchester may have a list of the problem lots. I wouldn't buy WLR primers on the secondary market, but the bad ones have surely worked their way out of the supply chain at larger retailers and other dealers who get their primers through established wholesalers.

marshall623
02-26-2020, 05:35 AM
Thanks for the replies, I bought these yesterday . I dont know but I'm suspecting they were purchased durning one of the shortages for resale at a higher price and no buyer to be found . I checked online and they dont match any suspect lot numbers that were listed .

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rintinglen
02-27-2020, 07:16 PM
I have loaded upwards of 20,000 of them with ZERO malfunctions/misfires or problems. I use then in preference to all others, and strive to keep plenty on hand.

robg
03-03-2020, 07:22 AM
cci is my no1 Winchester no2.in my experience they are a little hotter as my loads shoot a little higher with same load.

redhawk0
03-03-2020, 09:54 AM
I use WLR and WLRM almost exclusively. I have some Rem pistol primers and Fed Rifle as well...but they are leftovers from the Obummer shortage.

Never had a FTF with the Winchesters in the past 40+ years.

redhawk

redhawk0
03-03-2020, 05:31 PM
I think he's referring to the OP's signature (scripture verse).

It's free speech....

redhawk

Dapaki
03-03-2020, 05:35 PM
I think he's referring to the OP's signature (scripture verse).

It's free speech....

redhawk

Gotcha!

I like the scriptures in the signature line personally.

redhawk0
03-03-2020, 05:37 PM
Gotcha!

I like the scriptures in the signature line personally.

Me too.

redhawk

GregLaROCHE
03-03-2020, 06:36 PM
I keep my eye out for sales on he internet and buy ahead of time, if I find a good deal. I’ve gotten some really old ones I wondered about, but all have worked well.

onelight
03-03-2020, 07:58 PM
Gotcha!

I like the scriptures in the signature line personally.
I'll roll up here and join you I like it to.:-D

marshall623
03-03-2020, 08:36 PM
Thanks

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FLINTNFIRE
03-03-2020, 11:10 PM
Guess some are offended by the scripture , funny seen nothing in the sites terms of service saying no scripture . Guess the bible does not offend me , if I do not like a signature line I can skip it , anyway I use winchester primers , but have had one go off in a rcbs hand primer while priming brass , and had one lpp go off when it was wedged back into ejector on a 1911 and I was pulling hard on the slide to clear it , not jerking just pulling . Still use winchester still buy when on sale , and nowadays its mostly buy what I can save some on and get as much as I can.

Three44s
03-04-2020, 12:13 AM
I have noticed with my Winchester Large rifle primers in a 22-250 that they seemed to flatten easier than Federal 210’s and Remington 9 1/2’s

Three44s

exile
03-04-2020, 01:25 AM
Never used them before, loaded some Winchester small pistol primers yesterday, I'm sure they will work fine. (Matthew 11:6)

exile

marshall623
03-04-2020, 07:35 AM
I couldnt pass on 2 bricks for 34 $ , I've used 2 bricks of WSP so far one older white box and newer blue one and no issues in a T/C , EC9s and GP100https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200304/0b9e41ef33ee972072071a7e0af913b2.jpg

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6bg6ga
03-04-2020, 07:47 AM
Winchester primers are all I have on my shelves. Sure, I've tried other primers but I keep going back to them. They always go bang and I have rounds I loaded 40 years ago that still shoot fine.

Rapidrob
03-04-2020, 07:12 PM
I took 2ND place at our 800 yard match using them. Never had one not go bang.

Dapaki
03-07-2020, 10:21 AM
I read posts all the time over several reloading forums about primers going off when priming brass. Am I just the luckiest guy in the world or is it common to never have experienced this?

Oh and yes, I have had a LOT of crushed, sideways, upside down primers in my time but never had one go off (knock on wood).

marshall623
03-07-2020, 01:38 PM
I read posts all the time over several reloading forums about primers going off when priming brass. Am I just the luckiest guy in the world or is it common to never have experienced this?

Oh and yes, I have had a LOT of crushed, sideways, upside down primers in my time but never had one go off (knock on wood).

I know what you mean , I've never had one go off in the press . I'm not sure why it didn't , but it every chance to.

Dapaki
03-07-2020, 01:53 PM
A little off topic but I visited Sportsman's Warehouse and picked up 1000 Winchester Large Rifle Primers for $22.99. I got 2! :guntootsmiley:

Norske
03-14-2020, 11:22 AM
The potential for igniting a primer while seating is the reason I always have a closed top die in place when seating them.

onelight
03-14-2020, 11:37 AM
I read posts all the time over several reloading forums about primers going off when priming brass. Am I just the luckiest guy in the world or is it common to never have experienced this?

Oh and yes, I have had a LOT of crushed, sideways, upside down primers in my time but never had one go off (knock on wood).
The only ones I have set off when seating were in my old Lee loader that you seat with a hammer , you gotta be careful when you give a sixteen year old a hammer and things that explode.8-)

Photog
03-14-2020, 01:58 PM
WSPs; used a ton of them. They are slightly too big to consistently drop in my Frankford arsenal vibe tube filler. They tend to fit tighter in .40 brass than Federal or Remington. I still have a ton of them (ok, maybe only 6k) but I won't be buying more. If I get a stoppage on progressive loading, many times its the Win primers that didn't seat all the way.