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JasonMillar
02-04-2020, 05:28 PM
Been told it's Persian it's five foot long huge breach two inches across 1 inch bore at the end barrel is 42 inches long it's percussion. I have never liked Persian or middle East guns they look like they where made in someone's garage, any help identifying this it's smoothbore very heavy someone said it could be a rampart or wall gun https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200204/19215e0783d026450905434043093752.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200204/9e1266d3bafe19061d9eda4ee2a06b9a.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200204/8c3410175334121e7ab5086c083bff94.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200204/0d11f02122c3ebe9a185ec896760dd4e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200204/35c3de28333bcd1d20bac0757bdcfe2f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200204/16122b1da7d11ae47076e37fdaaac1cd.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200204/55f0939b9e93fe204bf6dfac7c449603.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200204/2680b48120898e8fe0c688188f8fa320.jpg

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Jkrem
02-04-2020, 06:11 PM
This looks something like a punt gun from the Chesapeake Bay.

M-Tecs
02-04-2020, 06:12 PM
This looks something like a punt gun from the Chesapeake Bay.

what he said.

Jkrem
02-04-2020, 10:07 PM
From Wikipedia - A punt gun is a type of extremely large shotgun used in the 19th and early 20th centuries for shooting large numbers of waterfowl for commercial harvesting operations. These weapons are characteristically too large for an individual to fire from the shoulder or often carry by themselves, but unlike artillery pieces, punt guns are able to be aimed and fired by a single man from a mount. In this case, the mount is typically a small watercraft. Many early models appear similar to over-sized versions of shoulder weapons of the time with full-length wooden stocks with a normal-sized shoulder stock. Most later variations do away with the full-length stock—especially more modern models—and have mounting hardware fixed to the gun to allow them to be fitted to a pintle.

RU shooter
02-04-2020, 10:15 PM
Not an expert but not sure any Persian guns had back action locks and agree with what's been said about a boat mounted punt gun for waterfowl

megasupermagnum
02-04-2020, 10:43 PM
I have not dog in this fight, but I always consider the punt guns to be cannons. Something bigger than that, and no more fancy than a barrel mounted to a board. To me that pictured gun is a shoulder fired gun. It is decorated, has sights, and is right at 4 bore. To me, that looks like the kind of gun they used back in the day for trips to Africa to hunt the largest game on earth.

M-Tecs
02-04-2020, 11:02 PM
http://www.dogsanddoubles.com/2020/01/watch-this-old-school-duck-hunting-with-a-real-punt-gun/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om5QMdxs-aM

M-Tecs
02-04-2020, 11:05 PM
Punt guns were made as small as 8 gauge with relatively short barrels. Since it is appears to be a smooth bore chances are it's not a big game gun.


https://youtu.be/KBwU7_5qAmI

JasonMillar
02-05-2020, 07:22 AM
Thanks for your help looks like it's been converted from flintlock or maybe something earlier

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toot
02-05-2020, 10:05 AM
not PERSIAN JUNK! but a great PUNT GUN.a great score!!

waksupi
02-05-2020, 10:13 AM
Definitely not a punt gun. Punt guns were generally around 10 feet long. Not a rampart gun, no swivel mount. Just a plain big game gun.

fast ronnie
02-05-2020, 12:43 PM
Sure looks like a punt gun to me.

M-Tecs
02-06-2020, 12:35 AM
7 gauge about the same size here https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/shotguns-4-and-8-gauge/kinzey-griffith-ii-alexandria-virginia-massive-punt-gun-rare-16-lbs-52-quot-bbl-history.cfm?gun_id=101378310

6 gauge here https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/shotguns-4-and-8-gauge/alexander-kennedy-ii-mechanics-hill-nc-6-gauge-punt-gun-rare-massive-17-lbs.cfm?gun_id=101366017

pietro
02-07-2020, 08:45 PM
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All I know is that I don't think that it's something I'd like to fire...…… :bigsmyl2:

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flagman1776
02-07-2020, 09:26 PM
Its interesting for sure. It looks like it was converted from flint lock. Wall guns usually had yokes like swivel cannons. (I've owned 5 swivel cannon.) It has rear sights. That heavy of a breech... seems out of place. The piece seems out of proportion to me. Still, if pressed, I'd call it a wall gun... for use defending a fort or ship.