.454 casull load question

[unclebill]

ok
.454 casull load question
i have a gas checked water quenched 308 gr. bullet .452 dia.
the closest my lyman load book gets to that is a 325 lino bullet.
with 6.5 gr.min. 8.5max unique
what would be a good starting charge for this?
i hate having to extrapolate like this.
it makes me nervous!
thanks
bill

[unclebill]

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you guys dont know how much i appreciate it.
bill

[leadhead 500]

I think a good starting place would be 8.5 grains

[unclebill]

i knew it needed to be more .
i just didnt know where to start.
thanks

[runfiverun]

i would try 8 grs and move up a bit.
this might be a good place for that russian unique too.

[unclebill]

i would try 8 grs and move up a bit.
this might be a good place for that russian unique too.

thats what i had in mind.
ive got 2 jugs of it.
:)

[Mack Heath]

As I read your question, you are looking for a .454 load and not a .45 Colt level load.

The data you quoted was Lyman's for a .45 Colt in the Contender.

The .454 level loads for Unique with the 325 are 11.3 grains @ 38K CUP up to 12.6 grains @ 44K CUP.

[unclebill]

As I read your question, you are looking for a .454 load and not a .45 Colt level load.

The data you quoted was Lyman's for a .45 Colt in the Contender.

The .454 level loads for Unique with the 325 are 11.3 grains @ 38K CUP up to 12.6 grains @ 44K CUP.

i have a 45l.colt levergun and a raging bull 454 and no 325 boolits . thats why i
am fishing for tips.
so now i know where to start with colt contender loads.


sorry bout that
it's early and i spaced out.:???:

[unclebill]

The .454 level loads for Unique with the 325 are 11.3 grains @ 38K CUP up to 12.6 grains @ 44K CUP.






so start at 12 gr. maybe?

[unclebill]

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[FN in MT]

Bill,

IF Your looking for some mid range loads in .454 C cases I have some data. I found that at least in mt Freedom Arms M-83 the mid range loads can be amazingly accurate. And far easier on my aged wrists than the full bore Casull loads.

FN in MT

[leftiye]

Try AA#9 - 19 grs as starting point. AA gives this as 19000 psi. 1300 fps. IIRC Hotter loads will probly be more accurate even.

[454PB]

I assume you are looking for mild loads, or you wouldn't be using Unique. I don't use Unique in .454 loads, but I do in .45 Colt. Bluedot is a more suitable powder for midrange loads in .454. I cast the Lyman 452651 from 25% linotype and 75% WW alloy. Gas checked and lubed it weighs about 325 grs. Ahead of 17 gr. of Bluedot, this chronographs about 1350 fps. in my revolvers, depending on barrel length. In my Puma rifle, it's around 1700 fps.

[FN in MT]

MID RANGE .454 Casull LOADS

Fed 205 primer

315 gr Lyman #454629 cast

HS-6 13.0 gr 1025 1061



325 gr Cast Performance LBT
Velocity 4 3/4" bbl 7 1/2" bbl

HS-6 13.0 gr 985 1,022

UNIQUE 10 gr 1010 1043
11 gr 1093 1130

UNIV CLAYS 10 gr 1020 1061


300 gr Oregon Trails cast

W-231 9.0 gr 1030 1065

From Handloader #232



My personal experience; 12.0 of UNIQUE, 205M primer, Starline brass, 300 gr LBT cast
6" FA gave me 1137 fps avg with one inch groups @ 25 yds


Hope these help.

FN in MT

[FN in MT]

Apparently the software doesn't allow SPACES.

The first velocity figure is for a 4 3/4" barrel the next figure to the right is for a
7 1/2" barrel.

I had typed it out in a far easier to read format.:confused:

FN in MT

[unclebill]

thank you!

[Heavy lead]

Bill,
I use 10 grains even Unique Federal 205 primer and a Lee .452 gas checked 310 grain boolit. Gets me about 1050 chonographed out of my Super Redhawk. I use this load under the RCBS270SAA cast at 290 grains too.

[unclebill]

there sure are a lot of applications for 10 gr. of unique.
it seems like everytime i look up a load.
yep
10 of unique!
:grin:

[unclebill]

i made some powderpuff loads because
well...
because i could.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l272/billhedges/zsmithwesson27-2102.jpg

[unclebill]

yeah
i need practice
i know....

[Heavy lead]

Don't think those "powder puff" loads won't kill deer. 10 grains of Unique under that 270SAA will blow right through the biggest deer you can find here in Michigan. I can't see how 400 fps more will kill one any faster. A moose, or big bear might be different, but I would not think twice about pulling the trigger on any deer, black bear, or elk within a reasonable range with that load, or the Lee 300WFN either, and they are down right comfortable to shoot too.