40-65 Mold recommendations

[hawkenhunter50]

Looking for suggestions on what shoots best from a 40-65. Looking for GG bullet around 400 grains. CPA rifle, Bartlein 30in 1:16 twist .408 groove barrel. Any 1 particular bullet that is a good go to for starting out with?

[country gent]

Ive had very food results with 3 bullets in my cpa silhouette rifle ( Douglas barrel 1-16 twist 30" length). 1) the lymnn snoover at 400 grains This bullet works well for me and is a close replica of the postel. 2) a 400 drn nasa from a mould made by Bernie Rowels at Old West moulds. only 1 larger grease groove it seats shallower allowing more powder room. 3) but not last is a Baco mould for a 425 grn Paper Patch that shoot very well. I shoot strictly Black Powder with spg or emmerts lube around 1200-1250 fps

[Gunlaker]

I do not know anything about the chamber design of the CPA rifles, but in a Shiloh the Saeco #740 is one of the best bullets out there. The Buffalo Arms 400gr Money bullet ( 409400M4 ) is also quite excellent.

Chris.

[marlinman93]

The Lyman #410663 is a 400 gr. mold, and drops around .410" diameter from my mold. This is a great design that's proven to work well in a lot of .40 caliber single shots.

[hawkenhunter50]

I do not know anything about the chamber design of the CPA rifles, but in a Shiloh the Saeco #740 is one of the best bullets out there. The Buffalo Arms 400gr Money bullet ( 409400M4 ) is also quite excellent.

Chris.

I am not seeing the M4 listed on Buffalo Arms, they do have an M5 which says the first 3 bands are reduced diameter. Is this the same as the M4, perhaps without reduced diameter bands? Thanks to all for the suggestions so far.

[DHDeal]

I don't know why the mold Chris mentioned isn't on the BACO site, but I have one also. I bought mine some years back. I'd have to measure my drive bands, but I don't remember any being reduced. I does shoot well out of my Crossno Hepburn.

I've only played with PP for the last few years so haven't paid that mold much attention.

[Gunlaker]

I think it might have been renamed. There was a fellow on the Shiloh forum that was complaining about name inconsistency in their mold part numbers. I wonder if he got them to renumber it?

See this if you are interested:





https://www.shilohrifle.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25632

Chris.

[DHDeal]

I seem to have read that thread a while back. Not really a poster there but have been a member since about 2005 and catch up from occasionally.

Heck, maybe my mold does have a reduced drive brand. I did that to a Paul Jones .4585" 535 grain mold I have and it worked well there.

Regardless, the "Money" was money.

[hawkenhunter50]

I think it might have been renamed. There was a fellow on the Shiloh forum that was complaining about name inconsistency in their mold part numbers. I wonder if he got them to renumber it?

See this if you are interested:





https://www.shilohrifle.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=25632

Chris.

Thanks for the info. It does seem to have to do with the reduced bands according to that link.

[beltfed]

HOw about this one, a DDEPP ( dual diameter elliptical PP)
available at Buffalo Arms
accurate and stable out to 1000yds
attached target is from 100yds.
beltfed/arnie255781

[beltfed]

The above is 1.325" long, DDEPP, and weight in 16+1 or my 9+1 COWW/Lino is about 370-380gr
JIM #403380E
beltfed/arnie

[hawkenhunter50]

HOw about this one, a DDEPP ( dual diameter elliptical PP)
available at Buffalo Arms
accurate and stable out to 1000yds
attached target is from 100yds.
beltfed/arnie255781

Sure does look neat, but really not ready to try paper patching at this point. Maybe down the road but for now I think just stick with grease groove bullet would be best for me.

[hawkenhunter50]

Those using the BACO 409.... molds, what diameter are they dropping using what alloy? Maybe I overlooked it, but I didn't see that they listed .409 at say 20:1.

[rfd]

i also used the lyman snover 410663 mold/bullet with good results in both sharps and rollers.

[Bad Ass Wallace]

I use the Lyman tapered boolit in my custom 40/65 Badger barrelled !:16" ROT(LHS) I believe Greg Mathews designed

https://i.imgur.com/vsptEjL.jpg

[Gunlaker]

Those using the BACO 409.... molds, what diameter are they dropping using what alloy? Maybe I overlooked it, but I didn't see that they listed .409 at say 20:1.

Mine has it's driving bands at 0.409" using 16:1 alloy.

Chris.

[Nobade]

I've had good luck with the RCBS 40-400-BPS. Works well in my Browning 40-65.

That dual diameter PP boolit looks very interesting. A friend got Accurate to make something very similar and it shot fantastic out of my rifle. But getting one with the Money nose like that might be a good thing to explore.

[classicballistx]

I have a Lyman 410663 if anyone is interested. Message or email me.
Thanks!
Edo.

[WALLNUTT]

I have a Saeco #740 2 cav. PM me if interested in purchase.

[marlinman93]

Since this was first posted I've been doing more load development and shooting using a lighter bullet. My RCBS CSA 350 has proven to be very accurate in my .40-65 Rolling Block with IMR4198. It's done very well out to extremely long distance, and holds as good a group at 1,000 yds., as my Lyman 400 gr. and Snover 420 grain do in the same gun.

[koger]

I have a RCBS .410 400gr snover, and a RCBS 320gr RN that literally shoots tiny little groups at 100 yds in in my .40/82.

[hawkenhunter50]

Well I'm still waiting to get the CPA rifle, but I did end up getting a mold. I got the BACO 400Gn Money. And in the meantime picked up a Sharps 40-90SBN, and that bullet it showing real promise from the Sharps anyhow. Hopefully will work well in the CPA too if and when it's finally finished.