Glock Trigger ?

[Johnch]

OK I added a 9 MM barrel to my Glock 22 so I can shoot the pistol a lot more
LOL Less powder and lead each shot .... Yea That is the reason :p

So the next step that HAS to happen is the trigger

I did a quick search and saw a number of ways to go
But I figure one of the kits is a decent way

I figured someone here has improved their Glock trigger

Any ideas ?
Not looking for a Match trigger
But I want something better than the darn 10-12 LB sand paper trigger it has

Thanks
John

[GARD72977]

I run A JohnnyGlock match trigger but they are expensive. Do a YouTube search for "25 cent Glock trigger job". You can do a good bit to a stock trigger

[BK7saum]

While you can lighten and smooth the glock trigger, it cn never be a crisp single action pull like a 1911. Not sure what you have now, but a lott of glocks ship with a 5.5lb trigger, unless yours has a New York trigger spring which is either 12 or 18lb.

A 3.5 lb connector can lighten the pull, but it is still basically a long 2 stage type pull.

[gnostic]

Check out Wolf Springs, I've installed them in most of my Semi Autos with good to great results....

[nagantguy]

The absolute best in the business is the Face Shooter trigger from Suarez international- Gabe Suarez is the foremost master of things Glock and has employed in his staff the finest armorers working n the business- as a relatively new Glock convert and firearms instructor I’ve never seen better training or bought triggers and barrels that truly made such a difference on a fighting pistol- a bit of drift here but the face shooter trigger was born from his idea that to end fights quickly- he was a narcotic officer in LA during the crack epidemic- 12-13 times he went toe to toe with armed bad guys at room to arm length distances and they are dead and he’s alive- probably the closest thing we have to a true living old west style gun fighter-
The gentleman whom just shut down that shooter in church in Whitesettlement TX, shot the bad guy in the head- cause that ends the fight now- .
Glock claims protection- well after we contour the grip,retexture to disired grip, replace the plastic sights and upgrade the trigger we are getting close- after market barrel to shoot cast or powder coat.
You didn’t ask but once one masters Glock trigger reset they shoot extremly well - I spent some bucks on some after market barrels- I can honestly say the factory barrels were just as accurate or more so than the after market, but I do like threaded barrels for quite time.
Probably the next best mod after trigger is undercutting the trigger guard , lets you grip just a little higher, putting the “lump” at the bottom of the grip frame very low or just past the bottom of the palm.

[Todd N.]

Take your Glock apart and remove the whole trigger group. Order upgrade springs from Glockmeister or Lone Wolf. Take the connector to a jeweler or metal polishing place and have it polished to the highest finish they can deliver. Put it back together with your new springs. Sandpaper feeling is gone and the trigger pull, while still long, is as smooth as you could ever want.

[Petrol & Powder]

If it has the original trigger setup and a factory disconnector, it should be about 5.5 pounds. There are two additional factory types, the NY-1 and NY-2 and then there are some non-factory combinations.

Lightly polishing the disconnector and trigger bar where they contact each other, can help a little.

The Glock will never have the light SA trigger of say a 1911 but good work can be done with a Glock.

I've shot Glocks with the standard trigger and the NY trigger and while the NY triggers are undoubtedly heavier, they are not horrible. The NY trigger spring is actually a bit more durable than the standard trigger spring due to the fact the NY trigger springs are compressed during use rather than being stretched.

If the trigger pull weight really is 10 lbs + and that's not just exaggeration, the gun may have a NY-1 or NY-2 trigger spring.

[dverna]

I added a 9mm barrel to mine as well (Lonewolf) and upgraded the trigger with a Ghost trigger. Also did some polishing. It was a few years ago so cannot even remember what parts were involved but it was not difficult to do. It was not expensive and made an improvement.

I prefer a "longer" trigger and about a 5 lb pull on a defensive pistol. I stopped carrying Kimbers as the triggers were too good.

When the SHTF, and the adrenalin is pumping, I do not want an AD. I used that Glock 22 with the Lonewolf barrel in the 4 day handgun class at Frontsight using Federal 9mm. 600 rounds. Not a single FTF, and trigger worked well. Scored in the top 3% so the longer "spongier" trigger does not affect my performance.

You are wise to have the 9mm barrel. Shoots cast well and 9mm brass is diet cheap. Some training facilities like Frontsight will not allow reloads, and 9mm is less expensive to purchase.

BTW, never thought I would carry a Glock. I was too much of a snob. I now have two of them because I talked to guys who need pistols to survive and they shot Glocks. They are a fighting pistol. Do not try to make them into a 1911 match gun. One of the instructors at Frontsight lost a friend who was killed in a gunfight. His friend had "upgraded" the trigger with one of the high end offerings and the trigger had malfunctioned... That instructor carrys a stock Glock and told me not to mess with the trigger. My second Glock 22 is stock but polished up a bit. Works well enough.

[LUCKYDAWG13]

https://www.glockstore.com/ just a link to some triggers and things

[Lloyd Smale]

I put a spring kit and disconnector in all my glocks. It doesn't make them into 1911 triggers by a lone shot but does drop them a few lbs and makes them much easier to shoot. Cost about 20-30 bucks and you can do it yourself in about a 1/2 hour. I didn't buy a glock to target shoot and it doesn't need a glass clean break at less the 3lbs. As a matter of fact a self defense gun is probably better off at around 5 and those cheap parts will get you there or darned close to it.

[JoeJames]

I have two Glocks - a 21 and a 43. Both have Ghost trigger connectors from Ghost,Inc. It is claimed that they drop the pull to 3.5 pounds; however from what I have read they measured them at trigger tip, rather than about midway on the trigger. After installation both run @ 4 pounds which is a might good improvement on stock. Course we ain't talking about a Python single action here, but it does help with straining away from the target with an 8 1/2 pounds pull. If you do that change remember to be extra careful in drawing and reholstering; as it don't take a lot to snag a trigger and BANG!

[lefty o]

a factory - connector and a good polish job will usually put you at about #5 or a hair less. add an extra power trigger return spring will drop it about another 6 ounces. firing pin safety spring will net about 1/2-1 ounce reduction. if you want a gun guaranteed to go bang when the trigger is pulled, dont mess with the striker spring.

[Johnch]

Thanks
OK I .... Just might have over stated the trigger pull weight
But the grit part is a real problem

My Glock was a police trade in , it even has a badge number ( I think ) on the case

But IMO it was shot VERY Little before I bought it

I will be upgrading the trigger and maybe adding a ajustable rear sight

John

[lefty o]

no doubt on the grit. some arent terrible, and others are like you are rubbing two pieces of 80grit sand paper together.

[dkf]

I do a $.25 trigger job on mine (no power tools) with mothers polish. Makes the surfaces shiny and smooth. The one Glock I bought used came with a Glock 3.5 connector in it, it was mushy for my taste. Put in a Ghost Ranger connector and it crisped the trigger up quite a bit. None of mine have a gritty feel to the trigger. A detail strip of the frame, a good cleaning of all the parts and a $.25 trigger job on the right parts will likely get rid of the gritty feel. A dropp of oil on the connector at the right spot helps also.

[lefty o]

the gritty ones need a little more than a polish. time to break out the stones.

[dkf]

Don't want to go through the plating on the parts.

[lefty o]

there is no issue going thru that cheap plating. the only purpose it serves is to make stamped parts acceptably smooth for production. the parts are well hardened under the plating.

[dkf]

Yeah ok.

[lefty o]

ive done more than a few glock trigger jobs, i wont put out bogus info.

[dkf]

So have I, but I am sure you are the expert. When I send parts out for heat treat I always tell them to make them "well hardened", its an industry term. Don't need all that uber expensive hardness testing equipment and all those hardness scales. Naw.

[lefty o]

So have I, but I am sure you are the expert. When I send parts out for heat treat I always tell them to make them "well hardened", its an industry term. Don't need all that uber expensive hardness testing equipment and all those hardness scales. Naw.

drill one of those glock trigger bars and tell me what you find. they are rock hard, you dont need a rockwell tester to be able to tell it either.

[Idaho45guy]

I have three Glock pistols and all have a pull between 4 lbs and 5 lbs and are crisp and break nicely. All have a stock Glock OEM (-) connector and polishing. I experimented with various aftermarket 3.5 lb connectors and all made it lighter but mushy. The stock connector and polishing does wonders and is $20.

Before was 5.5 lbs...

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After was just over 4.5 lbs...

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Stock polished connector on left, then new Glock (-) on right before polishing...

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[Speedo66]

I was a state LEO working in NYC, our Glocks had the NY++ trigger installed, 12lbs.

I qualified with it, still do for my HR218 card every year. I'm used to it, won't change it, doesn't seem to be doing me any harm.

[tazman]

Due to a long ago injury to my fingers, I doubt I have enough strength in my trigger finger to pull a 12 LB trigger.
At 4.5lb I start having trouble holding the gun anything like steady.
Even so, I don't like a really light trigger.
Triggers are problematic for me.

[Johnch]

Looks like I will start out by polishing the connector and changing springs

I weighted the trigger today .... 10 lb 2 oz so I IMO it can be made a LOT better without spending a lot of $$

John

[Idaho45guy]

Looks like I will start out by polishing the connector and changing springs

I weighted the trigger today .... 10 lb 2 oz so I IMO it can be made a LOT better without spending a lot of $$

John

It has the MA compliant trigger connector, as did my G35. You need to spend the $20 on a Glock (-) (minus connector) and it will take it down to under 5 lbs.

[bigted]

Do not know about Glock ... but my XD 40 had a horrible trigger so I took my stone to the sear and pin and walla ... very much better ... no lighter springs and just some time working on the contact areas do wonders.

I study'd it awhile before beginning and careful to not change any angle.

[tazman]

Do not know about Glock ... but my XD 40 had a horrible trigger so I took my stone to the sear and pin and walla ... very much better ... no lighter springs and just some time working on the contact areas do wonders.

I study'd it awhile before beginning and careful to not change any angle.

I used a PRP drop in trigger in my XDM. That took it down to a nice 3.5LB. I can manage that. Took my groups down to less than half the size.

[Idaho45guy]

Do not know about Glock ... but my XD 40 had a horrible trigger so I took my stone to the sear and pin and walla ... very much better ... no lighter springs and just some time working on the contact areas do wonders.

I study'd it awhile before beginning and careful to not change any angle.

The great thing about Glocks is that there is no need to study it. There are proven mods to do and I've told the OP exactly what part to change and exactly what part to polish to make it right. No need to try and second guess 35 years of proven mods on these pistols. Now, on a less popular or newer design, then experimentation may be in order, but not on a Glock. They have horrible triggers, but $20 and 20 minutes is all it takes to make a vast improvement.

[W.R.Buchanan]

I have 4 Glocks, a G23,G35, G36 and G21SF all are set up exactly the same way, with a Wolf 4 lb Striker Spring, and Extended Mag Release and the G34/35 Extended Slide Release. I also trim the trigger safety back until it is flush with the trigger face when depressed all the way. This last mod eliminates the groove in your finger tip after a long day at the range.

aS far as polishing any of the internal parts, it is not a good idea and will only reduce the life of those parts. All the internal Trigger parts are Electroless Nickel Plated and baked to yield a very hard surface (75+Rc). It is also only .0005 thick and it will come off fast when polishing with any abrasive compound, exposing regular cold rolled steel underneath. IE: your polish job will seriously reduce the life of the Trigger Bar, Connector and Striker Tooth.

If you trigger is gritty,,, try firing about 800 rounds thru the gun making sure there is some kind of lubrication on the sear and connector, and the little angled protrusion that depresses the firing pin safety. Vaseline works great!

After your gun is broke in you will find that the trigger is no longer gritty,,, unless you play in the sand with it.

I also really like the Tru-Glo FO Tritium Sights.

Randy

[Idaho45guy]

aS far as polishing any of the internal parts, it is not a good idea and will only reduce the life of those parts. All the internal Trigger parts are Electroless Nickel Plated and baked to yield a very hard surface (75+Rc). It is also only .0005 thick and it will come off fast when polishing with any abrasive compound, exposing regular cold rolled steel underneath. IE: your polish job will seriously reduce the life of the Trigger Bar, Connector and Striker Tooth.

I have been on Glock forums for over 20 years and owned Glocks for 20 years and have never heard anyone, anywhere state not to polish the trigger bar and connector due to it wearing out quicker.

First, you're talking about a weapon that has a service life of nearly 100k rounds. Second, if the connector somehow wears out prematurely, which I have never heard of, then a new one is under $20. If the trigger assembly wears out prematurely, it's a $25 part.

[lefty o]

I have been on Glock forums for over 20 years and owned Glocks for 20 years and have never heard anyone, anywhere state not to polish the trigger bar and connector due to it wearing out quicker.

First, you're talking about a weapon that has a service life of nearly 100k rounds. Second, if the connector somehow wears out prematurely, which I have never heard of, then a new one is under $20. If the trigger assembly wears out prematurely, it's a $25 part.

there is no problem with it. the best glock trigger guys out there stone them, and there is no durability problem with it.

[44Blam]

A standard Glock will shoot anything. Once you fart with the internals, it'll get picky.

[Idaho45guy]

A standard Glock will shoot anything. Once you fart with the internals, it'll get picky.

Really? How does polishing a trigger connector cause a Glock to have feeding issues? I'd love to hear your reasoning for this...

[Todd N.]

I have 4 Glocks, a G23,G35, G36 and G21SF all are set up exactly the same way, with a Wolf 4 lb Striker Spring, and Extended Mag Release and the G34/35 Extended Slide Release. I also trim the trigger safety back until it is flush with the trigger face when depressed all the way. This last mod eliminates the groove in your finger tip after a long day at the range.

aS far as polishing any of the internal parts, it is not a good idea and will only reduce the life of those parts. All the internal Trigger parts are Electroless Nickel Plated and baked to yield a very hard surface (75+Rc). It is also only .0005 thick and it will come off fast when polishing with any abrasive compound, exposing regular cold rolled steel underneath. IE: your polish job will seriously reduce the life of the Trigger Bar, Connector and Striker Tooth.

If you trigger is gritty,,, try firing about 800 rounds thru the gun making sure there is some kind of lubrication on the sear and connector, and the little angled protrusion that depresses the firing pin safety. Vaseline works great!
Randy

Well, I bought my first Glock in 1989- a 17, of course- and I still have it. The G19 I bought a year later is STILL my wife's EDC. Both of those guns have over 200,000 rounds through them. My firstG20 was purchased in 1994, and I still have it and shoot it weekly- the round count for THAT gun is over 90,000. I have replaced barrels, firing pins, springs, pins, and more due to high mileage, but I've never had to replace a connector or trigger bar.

A very enthusiastic and helpful Customer Service Rep at Glock told me EXACTLY how to polish the trigger bar and connector- I have done it to every one of the many many Glocks I have owned over the last 30 years.

In all that time, I have NEVER heard a single person- whether they are a fan or a critic of Glocks- say anything even remotely resembling this. I am a high volume shooter. Just like many of you do some thing every week without fail, my wife and I go to the shooting range EVERY week. I'm thinking that, if these factless claims were true, SOME kind of issue would have come up by now. With as many false and demeaning statements as are still made about Glocks after all these years, I think we would have heard something about this "problem" before now. Also, use of an appropriate lubricant in the correct spots on a Glock will eliminate the wear that you describe. Then again, people who don't maintain their Glock don't have wear issues with these parts either, so go figure...?

And "Glock Trigger Finger-Tip Groove"??? ***???

[tazman]

Glocks have a reputation as solid, dependable, durable, and accurate guns. They aren't terribly expensive and can be modified to your hearts content.
My issue is the grip angle doesn't work well for me. This isn't the fault of the firearm. It is a personal issue. I could undoubtedly get past it if I wanted to spend the time with one.
I own some striker fired pistols that have different grip angles that work fine for me. They copy the Glock action so I am not knocking Glocks.

[lefty o]

Glocks have a reputation as solid, dependable, durable, and accurate guns. They aren't terribly expensive and can be modified to your hearts content.
My issue is the grip angle doesn't work well for me. This isn't the fault of the firearm. It is a personal issue. I could undoubtedly get past it if I wanted to spend the time with one.
I own some striker fired pistols that have different grip angles that work fine for me. They copy the Glock action so I am not knocking Glocks.

the grip angle is IMO the weak point of the glock pistol. undercutting the trigger guard does help some to correct the issue though.

[Idaho45guy]

Glocks have a reputation as solid, dependable, durable, and accurate guns. They aren't terribly expensive and can be modified to your hearts content.
My issue is the grip angle doesn't work well for me. This isn't the fault of the firearm. It is a personal issue. I could undoubtedly get past it if I wanted to spend the time with one.
I own some striker fired pistols that have different grip angles that work fine for me. They copy the Glock action so I am not knocking Glocks.
Great. You don't like Glocks. What does that have to do with the OP and trying to remedy a heavy trigger pull?

[barnabus]

OK I added a 9 MM barrel to my Glock 22 so I can shoot the pistol a lot more
LOL Less powder and lead each shot .... Yea That is the reason :p

So the next step that HAS to happen is the trigger

I did a quick search and saw a number of ways to go
But I figure one of the kits is a decent way

I figured someone here has improved their Glock trigger

Any ideas ?
Not looking for a Match trigger
But I want something better than the darn 10-12 LB sand paper trigger it has

Thanks
John

you mean "glock perfection" is just a marketing ploy?

[Lloyd Smale]

I think most of it comes from the fact most of us old timers were brought up with 1911s. Glocks feel odd till you've lived with them for many years. Anymore I shoot a glock as well as I shoot anything. Funny thing was I was at the range last year when the local police dept was qualifying. I had a couple 1911s there and none of them ever shot one. they all took there turn and every one of them said it was cool but they just didn't like the right angle grip. All they have shot is glocks. Everyone of them though LOVED the trigger pull.
Glocks have a reputation as solid, dependable, durable, and accurate guns. They aren't terribly expensive and can be modified to your hearts content.
My issue is the grip angle doesn't work well for me. This isn't the fault of the firearm. It is a personal issue. I could undoubtedly get past it if I wanted to spend the time with one.
I own some striker fired pistols that have different grip angles that work fine for me. They copy the Glock action so I am not knocking Glocks.

[FergusonTO35]

Trigger pull can certainly vary between guns of the same generation. My gen. 4 19 has a better trigger pull than my gen. 4 26. Both have a good polish job, Ghost Ultimate connector, and a couple thousand rounds fired. Not really sure what it is, I'm not going to worry about it. The gen. 5 guns I have tried do seem to have a better pull.

[W.R.Buchanan]

I don't know what planet you guys live on??? But I have never gotten more than 10-12,000 rounds out of a Glock Trigger Bar. The plating wears thru in that time and that's with no polishing and plenty of lubrication. I'm talking about the curved section that rides on the connector at the end of the trigger bar, and the Sear. The rest of it doesn't need to be hard as it is only rubbing on plastic or the firing pin safety.

MY G35 has 20,000+ rounds thru it and I have replaced the trigger bar 3 times. I polished the first one and it lasted about 3500,,, then I polished the second one and went too deep on the sear and it only lasted 500 rounds. Then I replaced it again and left it alone. And it has survived til now, but is getting close. It has a 5 lb Connector cuz the 3.5 lb one it came with was too light. I didn't polish it either. There is a 4 lb Striker Spring.

My point is by NOT fooling with it they last pretty well.

I got the Baked Electroless Nickle finish from Glock and since I have used it in my shop for some projects I know exactly what it is, and does. If the finish is bright shiny silver it has .0005 or more on it. If it is dull finished then it has less than .0005 deposit on it. You can burn thru .0005 in about 30 seconds with flitz and a Dremel tool.

The only other thing I do is cut the Finger Safety back until it is flush with the face of the trigger when all the way depressed so it doesn't leave a groove in my finger.

Randy

[W.R.Buchanan]

Well, I bought my first Glock in 1989- a 17, of course- and I still have it. The G19 I bought a year later is STILL my wife's EDC. Both of those guns have over 200,000 rounds through them. My firstG20 was purchased in 1994, and I still have it and shoot it weekly- the round count for THAT gun is over 90,000. I have replaced barrels, firing pins, springs, pins, and more due to high mileage, but I've never had to replace a connector or trigger bar.

And "Glock Trigger Finger-Tip Groove"??? ***???

Wow! You must reload alot, and if your finger doesn't get a groove in it from shooting that much it must be a pretty solid trigger finger!

Randy

[Todd N.]

Wow! You must reload alot, and if your finger doesn't get a groove in it from shooting that much it must be a pretty solid trigger finger!

Randy Are you kidding? I live in the Pacific Northwet. It starts raining in October or November and doesn't stop until July! I have all winter long to fill ammo cans, and stay out of my wife's way!

[Greg G]

Post #12 is what I believe in for a Glock. Polish the trigger bar where it contacts the safety plunger, and remove the burrs where it contacts the striker. An extra power trigger spring, and a Glock "-" connector. Leave the striker spring alone unless it's for range use only.

I have tried some of the Ghost connectors and liked one. I think it's called the Pro Edge, don't quote me.

I happen to like the Glock trigger because it feels to me like the two stage triggers in my AR-15's. Long take up, some sort of "wall" (depending on which connector you buy), then the let - off. Very safe predictable release for me.

[Petrol & Powder]

Whenever the word "Glock" appears in a thread title it results in something similar to kicking a hornets nest; but here we are :-D

So..........attempting to leave the "I love Glocks" & "I hate Glocks", rhetoric behind; I will toss in my $0.02 worth.

Just because there are a lot of aftermarket parts available for Glocks doesn't mean the guns need aftermarket parts. What it does mean is there is a market for parts. Or, if you make it,.... someone will buy it.

Glocks are amazingly reliable and durable. That is one of their greatest strengths. The striker system on a Glock is never going to produce a short travel, crisp trigger pull - it isn't designed to do that. It is designed to be safe and reliable and it meets those requirements.
You can play with all sorts of combinations of factory and aftermarket parts and get all sorts of results concerning the trigger pull but frankly, I've never seen the need to do so.

The NY trigger spring may be slightly more durable that the regular trigger spring because it works under compression rather than being stretched BUT that's like saying a 100 pound anvil is stronger than a 98 pound anvil. They are both more than strong enough.
The factory 5.5 lb trigger is more than adequate for me. I've shot the NY-1 and NY-2 triggers and they're not as bad as people say. I'm not a fan of aftermarket connectors, not because they are bad (they're not) but just because the factory ones work just fine.

The thread drifted a bit and the topic of grip angle came up. Again, what works for some people doesn't work for everyone. If you extend your arm, make a fist with your index finger pointing at some distant object, your other fingers and thumb will form a fist with an angle very close to a Glock grip. If you tell a person trained as a boxer to make a fist, you'll get a grip angle closer to a 1911 style. Guns such as the Luger P-08, the Ruger Standard (MKII, MKIII etc.), the H&K P7 and the Glock - all have a more rakish grip angle. Guns like the 1911, S&W pistols Browning HP, etc. all have a more vertical grip angle.
Pick your tool.

[bigted]

I know that there are warmed up feelings about GLOCK's. Fact is that every firearm is designed for a purpose. Few will cover most or even many uses across the board.

Pistols like Glocks, Rugers, Springfields and the mounting lineup of "stryker fired" pistols are meant for mounting a offensive or defensive posture and minute of angle accuracy is just not important ... what is important in these pistol's is to be reliable and to be used with determination. Pie plate accuracy is fine accuracy at "fighting" distance.

Your trigger (OP) is ... out of need ... heavy and needs to be ... so that a determined purposeful trigger press is wanted so as to not ""accidentally" allow a "whimsical" shot to be loosed before you ... in the excitement of the moment ... decide a shot or three are absolutely required.

Military weapons are set in just this manner GENERALLY so that firing weapons before ready is harder to do then with fine 1911 polished and tuned weapons triggers.

Not saying that a 12 or 15 pound pull is wanted ... but as with my SR9 pistol ... I had to shoot it to be ok with what I would consider a creepy, heavy letoff.

Hope you get the trigger that you desire and need for your use.