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MountainEMT
11-03-2019, 04:30 PM
I'm trying to decide on my next rifle, I've been looking at the Marlin 1895 cb and cba, as well as an 1892 in either 45lc or 44mag from Taylor's & co.

I plan to use this for hog, deer, and blackbear. I hope to eventually go out west for a bison hunt, but that's not in the foreseeable future, so I'm not going to base this decision on that. I do plan to reload so I'm not concerned with the price of ammo. Which rifle do yall suggest.

Edit: I was able to shoot a 45-70 and it's out, my shoulders can't handle it (torn rotator and bursitis) so I'm looking at the 44 mag or 45 colt in either a marlin 94, or the Alaskan from Taylor's

veeman
11-03-2019, 05:20 PM
Winchester 94, 30-30

M-Tecs
11-03-2019, 05:22 PM
The Marlin 1895. 45/70 does it all. You can load from mild to wild.

LawrenceA
11-03-2019, 05:39 PM
45/70 hands down

Walks
11-03-2019, 06:15 PM
If your concern is Hunting only, I would choose a Marlin .30-30 or a .35Rem, lots of advantages in the Marlin. Easy to scope, at least 3+ different peep sight systems available.

If you want to shoot it A Lot, then a .44Mag, same sights as the Rifle Cartridges. I would get the 1894CB. Heavier bbl holds steadier and absorbs more recoil with Full-Power Hunting Loads.
Loaded down, they are just plain fun for plinking.

And if you do get to make that Buffalo Hunt. The cost of a New Rifle shouldn't break you.

The first centerfield Rifle I ever shot was a Winchester 94 in .30-30, I've never been without one since I got out of the Service in 1975.

Have had Marlins in most every caliber made in the last 40yrs.
A favorite is the 1895CB. Got one when they came out. Williams tang sight, fold down bbl sight. 1/16" brass bead front. Load down for plinking. It's a bit heavier then the 1895SS, but you can always add a sling.

Shawlerbrook
11-03-2019, 06:41 PM
Kind of hard to beat a 30 30, but there are many right answers here.

Wag
11-03-2019, 07:00 PM
+1 for the Winchester 94 in 30-30.

--Wag--

dverna
11-03-2019, 07:05 PM
You should consider the effective ranges you will be shooting and sight options. Consider taking bison out of your criteria. Buying a rifle for a once in lifetime opportunity can lead to a less than satisfactory solution to the 98% of the shooting you will do. I have a rifle like that that I have not used in 15 years.

I am partial to Marlins.

uscra112
11-03-2019, 07:22 PM
Dittos re: The Marlin 336 in .35 Remington. Just be aware that the Microgroove barrels need a boolit a couple of thou bigger than the usual .35 calibers, and they need a long bearing area to be accurate. 200 grains of gas-checked lead and 37 grains of 3031 will kill anything on your list out to 175-200 yards.

Not disparaging the .45-70, but they do kick, and they use up a lot more of your precious lead than the .35 Rem. Powder, too.

'Nother thing: You can load all manner of .35 caliber pistol bullets for plinking and yard varmints. A 158 grain SWC and 4.5 grains of Red Dot just goes "pop" when anchoring a garden-raiding 'coon or woodchuck. As cheap to load as .38 Special. Use pistol primers, and drill out the flash holes to .090 or you'll have a shoulder setback problem. (Don't use those cases for full loads.)

Drm50
11-03-2019, 07:24 PM
I've had a 30/30 Marlin since kid in early 60s. I still have it and is one of my keepers. I've also got a JM 1895 that I got on trade in early 80s. The only reason I kept it was for grins and it's a shooter with CBs & jackets. I had 65 cf rifles when Ohio came out with rifle season and it was the only legal rifle I had. I've had several 44mg carbines over the years but only played with them. Now have #3 and JM 1894. If I wasn't under caliber and case restrictions in Ohio, I would be using the 30/30. A lot more versatile gun than 45/70 or 44mg.

I have only three 35R rifles now. A #8, #14 and 141. I sold another #14 & Marlin 336. They all had one thing in common. They all shot 200gr bullets better than lighter choices. I've shot a lot of deer with 35R and the 200gr puts a thump on them.

Winger Ed.
11-03-2019, 07:39 PM
I'm a big time .45-70, Marlin CB guy, but wouldn't ever put a scope on it.
Same with my old top eject Winchester .30-30.

If you plan on using a scope, I'd get some flavor of the side eject Marlin.

Kev18
11-03-2019, 07:44 PM
Winchester 1886 in a large caliber.

Im seeing alot of 30-30. Thats ok for deer, but everything else you mentioned is borderline, excluding bison.

444ttd
11-03-2019, 07:56 PM
win m94 with williams fp peep sight in 35/30-30(made by JES Reboring).

M-Tecs
11-03-2019, 08:11 PM
Top end loads in the 45/70 do kick. On the light side you can shoot 150 grain collar button bullets. On the more wild side the 250 and 300 grain bullets can be safely pushed to 30/30 150/170 grain bullet velocities.

Some factory offerings

https://thebiggamehuntingblog.com/best-45-70-ammo-for-hunting/

I have three 30/30 that haven't been hunting in the last 25 years. On the other hand my Marlin 45/70 Guide Gun goes out on every rifle hunt I go on. Sometimes it's the primary rifle and sometimes it's the backup rifle but it normally always goes. My Browning 1886 keep company with the 30/30's in the safe mostly. I really like the 86's but they don't shot or carry as well as the 1895 Guide Gun.

If I want a 30 caliber in a levergun the Savage 99's in 308 gets the nod.

MostlyLeverGuns
11-03-2019, 08:20 PM
I've got 2 Marlin 1895's in 45-70. An early straight grip 22" barrel (1979/1980?) and a recent 1895 CB. I've shot many elk, a moose and a few deer with the early model. I have used 300 grain bullets on
everything with extraordinary results. It is a reliable killer out beyond 300 yards. Recoil can be fierce if you go to the upper limits. Deer and hogs at under 200 yards would not require the same speeds. You can load down easily while lighter calibers are exactly that, LIGHTER. I use a 1.5-5 Leupold for hunting, I have a 4.5-14X42 Burris for fun with lighter loads. The weight of the heavier scope is a plus for practice. I have a bunch of rifles,Savage 99's, Marlin 336's in 30-30, 32 Spcl, 35 Rem, but that first Marlin 45-70 is my 'OLD RELIABLE' for rough country. I have a Savage 99 358 that I also hold in high esteem, I would recommend a Savage 99 in 358 if you can find one or have a Savage 99 308 rebored. My 1895 Cowboy is well made and very accurate, so 'I think' Marlin is OK again.

Eddie Southgate
11-03-2019, 10:20 PM
A Marlin 1895 in 45-70 or a Marlin 30-30 bored to a 38-55 by Jess will do all you mentioned . If you don't mind going modern a BLR in .358 Winchester would do the same . I have the 1895 45-70 and the BLR in .358 but my 38-55 is the High Wall Winchester single shot . Really like the 38-55 cartridge and am gonna do a Lever in it before long .

murf205
11-03-2019, 10:24 PM
Welcome to the site brother. Lots of knowledge and opinions here and they are well founded by some of the nicest people around and always willing to help. Your first post is a good one and I'm sure you will get lots of suggestions. Shoot safe and enjoy.
My advice...buy 2. A 30-30 and a 45/70.

kycrawler
11-03-2019, 11:44 PM
Win 94 bb in 375 win shoot lyman 375449 sized to .378 out of mine over 25 grains of 4198

RoyEllis
11-04-2019, 12:33 AM
My choice? Marlin .444, lil less recoil than 45/70 and you can tailor loads for anything from mice to moose.

Walks
11-04-2019, 01:13 AM
I've scoped all my Marlins and Win 94's. Best way to test loads for accuracy.

The scopes are removed as soon one load for plinking/Cowboy is developed and another Full Power Load for if I should ever be able to hunt again or need a full-power load.

Marlin has made runs of the 336 Cowboy in both .30-30 & .38-55 in 24"bbl's.

And probably. 375Win in their std 336.
Look around for Used Guns.

The thing about folks like Us is that most of these older style Guns appeal most to Old Guys.
We pass on and Our Estates are broken up and the older style Guns are sold off.

joe leadslinger
11-04-2019, 01:15 AM
Guess I'm going to be the oddball, but how about a ? Savage 99

GregLaROCHE
11-04-2019, 01:24 AM
The .30-30 has taken a lot of game, but there’s just something about a Marlin .45-70. Once you try it, there’s no gong back. They don’t have to kick that much. It all depends on how you load them. You can even load round balls in them for a really light recoil.

Bazoo
11-04-2019, 03:05 AM
Howdy and welcome to the forum.

I am partial to the 30-30. But of the ones you listed, I'd go 45-70. A stainless guide gun if you will hunt in any inclimate weather.

dverna
11-04-2019, 06:43 AM
Walks makes a good point. I have a number of lever actions and my son has little interest in them. When I pass, they will get sold.. Other families will face the same circumstances. I expect we will see more lever actions on used gun racks. And as inventories increase, prices will go down.

Seems like the buying public is enamored by AR's and cartridges that work on that platform, or MOA bolt actions. The 3 MOA lever actions appeal to guys like you find here....basically the dinosaurs of the gun world. Lever actions in pistol calibers got popular with CAS but look at the average age at one of their shoots.

BTW, a few years ago I picked up a slightly rusted M94 .30/30 for $135 from the widow of a trap shooter. None of her family wanted it and none of the guys at the club. It cleaned up fine and had not been shot much at all.

You have received some advice that will make you think. Let us know what you decide.

Smoke4320
11-04-2019, 08:50 AM
45-70 all the way. Many many choices of loads soft or hard hitting. 150 to 500 grn
Taylor load to game and distance and recoil
Collor button for cheap soft recoiling practice/plinking

MountainEMT
11-04-2019, 09:19 AM
I do have my grandfather's Marlin 30-30, but I don't take it out that much, it's more of a keepsake that I only take hunting or out of the safe on certain occasions.

I've decided to go with the 45-70, now to decide which model. I really like the looks of the cowboy models.

georgerkahn
11-04-2019, 09:24 AM
Previous posters ALL have made great points vis model and calibre. However, I'd like to add another -- to me -- very important criteria. To wit, the *SIZE* of the firearm you elect versus, of course, YOUR "size". Some of us have long arms, other short, etc., etc., etc ;).
One of the major "tricks", which I've seen soooo many times NOT done, is the practice of hunters moving their lever-firearm for a second, or third shot while STILL being held at your shoulder. Yes -- many will lower their firearm to get another cartridge ready to fire -- and then need again raise it to their shoulder, get a decent sight picture, and then finally (hopefully) again fire.
I have several levers, with my "go-to" hunter being neither of your options -- a Marlin 336 -- and I have a Limb-Saver on its butt NOT for recoil, but rather to add enough length to the stock to enable efficient at shoulder functioning in the field.
Assuming you're planning on purchasing "face to face" -- I'd suggest loading some snap-caps in whichever firearm you choose for YOU to ascertain this -- having comfort/ability in this area added to your choice criteria. Good luck, regardless!
(Lever-lover) geo

ABJ
11-04-2019, 09:43 AM
Lots of great suggestions, here is my two cents worth.
I have 30-30, 32 special,35 Remington and and 45-70. I love my six 30-30's but I play with them more than hunt with them. All my rifles are zeroed at 100 yards. Who ever is grabbing a gun, including me goes for the 35 Rem. first and the 45-70 second, because they deliver meat every time the trigger is pulled. Most of our deer hunting is 60 to 120 yards. The 35 is loaded to 1800 give or take with 200 fn, and the 45-70 is 1350 ish with a 300 rf. Both are soft shooting loads. The smaller calibers are fine and will kill deer but I wait on the almost perfect broadside shot with these. Not as picky with the 35 or 45-70. If at some future date the 45-70 can be loaded up to the limits of the rifle and offer even more opportunities. If I were to add another levergun I would be looking at the 44 mag or 444 marlin just for velocity more so then anything else, but not really needed as I don't have any holes in the calibers I already have.
I hope the info is useful.
Tony

M-Tecs
11-04-2019, 01:43 PM
I do have my grandfather's Marlin 30-30, but I don't take it out that much, it's more of a keepsake that I only take hunting or out of the safe on certain occasions.

I've decided to go with the 45-70, now to decide which model. I really like the looks of the cowboy models.

I agree with the looks about the cowboy models. I have a couple also. The only down side is they don't have recoil pads. For upper end loads they get way more unpleasant than my Guide Gun.

gumbo333
11-04-2019, 02:51 PM
Geez, nobody mentioned a Henry, go look at the Henry levers, they won't pince your fingers loading them! Plus they are well made. A 44 mag or 45 colt will take a deer as will the great 30/30. But a 45/70 will take anything in North America. Plus you can easily load it down to low 44 or 45 levels for no-kick, just plain fun plinking/ practice. Have fun whatever you pick.

wapiti22
11-04-2019, 08:27 PM
I've had several levers. A 45-70, 30-30, 35 REM and 44 MAG. All Marlins (no Remlins). Sold the 45-70 when it got to be too much for my 68 year old shoulder. Now, if I want to kill something, I take the 35 Rem. If I want a fun day at the range it's the 44 mag. All of my levers are at least 30 years old.

Gtek
11-04-2019, 10:07 PM
Since you ask, and not knowing your trigger time here it goes. I would think first would be a 336 in 30WCF (nice used JM one with character), about the cheapest to shoot easily scoped solid harvester. Then when the bug really takes a set find that 1895 in 45-70 and step your game up. Then with enough available expendable cash find a nice 1894 in 44. The 35, well, I think there are secret hand shakes, meetings, club dues and all that I think. Not sure but those of us on the outside have seen and heard things, just sayin!

upr45
11-05-2019, 09:54 AM
Lots of good advice already given. You will appreciate the handiness of a lever once you try it. Don't think you will stop at 1 of them once you try it. If you take care of it they only only go up in value (both in terms of $ and in a place in your heart).

MrWolf
11-05-2019, 01:00 PM
Lots of good advice already given. You will appreciate the handiness of a lever once you try it. Don't think you will stop at 1 of them once you try it. If you take care of it they only only go up in value (both in terms of $ and in a place in your heart).

Yup, can't have just one. First lever was a JM Marlin 45/70. Somehow it started breeding and now I have a 32lc, 30/30 (2 of them), 32spl, 35 rem (2 of them), 357, 45, and the 45/70. All JM stamped. Been looking for a .41 just because...

Wayne Smith
11-05-2019, 01:44 PM
As and oddball out I'll suggest you look for a Mikoru Winchester 95 in 30-49 Krag! Great gun, great cast caliber, and brass is still available. Mine is in 405 Win, and that would be a possibility too for the Buff hunt.

bob208
11-05-2019, 09:52 PM
a .30-30 will do just fine on a buffalo. plus you can get ammo just about anywhere.

Texas by God
11-05-2019, 11:15 PM
The original 26” Marlin Cowboy 45-70 sure hangs good for offhand shooting. A friend brought one over and we shot clays offhand at 100 yards with a light Unique/340grCB load. We hit a bunch! I called right of first refusal but I guess he wasn’t listening, that sweet rifle went to someone else.

Czy_Horse
11-06-2019, 12:38 PM
The 444 Marlin is another option. My T4 has a production date of July 2019.

Marlin 1895 444 Marlin
https://i.imgur.com/SJ8jpEal.jpg
Marlin 1894 44Mag/44Spl

HawkCreek
11-08-2019, 06:57 PM
As and oddball out I'll suggest you look for a Mikoru Winchester 95 in 30-49 Krag! Great gun, great cast caliber, and brass is still available. Mine is in 405 Win, and that would be a possibility too for the Buff hunt.

I have two .30-40's and a .30-06, I'm hoping to add a .405 to the collection with the latest run. Miroku builds a top notch gun!

jgt
11-10-2019, 10:11 AM
Czy Horse, Is your "1895" Marlington 444 stamped as a "Model 1895" on the barrel or does the roll marks say "Model 444" and 444 Caliber as they always did when they were known as the 444 marlin? I ask because the ones I have seen are still marked Model 444 and the only people calling them 1895s are Remington people who don't know the difference. What is even worse is they do not bother to educate themselves. They bought the company so can designate the model at any model number they want to, but if they are going to do that, you would think they would change the roll marks or quit calling them 1895s. They are after all, a derivative of the 336 action not the old original 1895 Marlin action.

Ramjet-SS
11-10-2019, 11:29 AM
If I could only own one it would be the 45-70 and it would be the Henry All Weather. But man it’s hard to look past the 35 Remington or even the new Henry 38-55. Come to think of it the 30-30 is a darn versatile caliber and gun. You load the 170 grain Nosler Partition in the 30-30 it is capable of taking game all the way up to and including moose. I have taken elk with that load cleanly.

Beerd
11-10-2019, 11:40 AM
Czy Horse, Is your "1895" Marlington 444 stamped as a "Model 1895" on the barrel or does the roll marks say "Model 444" and 444 Caliber as they always did when they were known as the 444 marlin? I ask because the ones I have seen are still marked Model 444 and the only people calling them 1895s are Remington people who don't know the difference. What is even worse is they do not bother to educate themselves. They bought the company so can designate the model at any model number they want to, but if they are going to do that, you would think they would change the roll marks or quit calling them 1895s. They are after all, a derivative of the 336 action not the old original 1895 Marlin action.

Well, it looks like a nice rifle from here anyway.
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Petander
11-10-2019, 01:30 PM
I have been examining a 357 Rossi 92 lately,a warranty return. It won't eject 357 brass,bulging it. 38 Special works,sort of.

When I took a look inside I noticed it was built from scrap metal parts by a blind one-handed man in a dark room using an angle grinder and a hammer.

When we want cheap,we get cheap.

MountainEMT
11-12-2019, 12:08 PM
Well I was able to shoot a 45-70, and with a light load it still hurt my shoulders (torn rotator cuff and bursitis), so the 45-70 is out, My father inlaw has a Marlin 1894 in 44 mag, it wasn't bad. So now I'm looking at the Marlin 94 and the Taylor's Alaskan... either 45 colt or 44 mag.

Bazoo
11-12-2019, 06:17 PM
Thanks for the update. I've never tried one, but I'd like to have a 444 marlin. Kind of a middle ground between the 44 mag and the 45/70. Course I'd like a marlin 1894 too. I ain't hard to please long as it has a lever on it's belly.

Beerd
11-13-2019, 12:10 AM
........... I've never tried one, but I'd like to have a 444 marlin. Kind of a middle ground between the 44 mag and the 45/70....
some may not agree with that assessment of the 444.;)
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uscra112
11-13-2019, 12:51 AM
The original 444 had a slow twist that limited it to rather light bullets. Is that still true?

Bazoo
11-13-2019, 02:36 AM
some may not agree with that assessment of the 444.;)
..

Heck I ain't sure I agree with it, but I sure would like one so I can assess it for myself.

Texas by God
11-13-2019, 10:03 AM
The 44 magnum and the 45 Colt with hunting loads in a light weight carbine won't be very kind to your shoulder, either. I would go with the 30-30.

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smkummer
11-13-2019, 03:36 PM
44 mag. or 45 colt will do what you need it to do. When you were going to select a 45-70, I was hoping you were able to try a 300 grain lead bullet loaded down. You can do the same with a 45 colt loaded up a bit in the marlin. But a standard 250 grain lead 45 bullet going out of a rifle is a ***** cat to shoot giving 1150 FPS and will probably kill all you need except the bison cleanly.

MountainEMT
11-13-2019, 09:13 PM
44 mag. or 45 colt will do what you need it to do. When you were going to select a 45-70, I was hoping you were able to try a 300 grain lead bullet loaded down. You can do the same with a 45 colt loaded up a bit in the marlin. But a standard 250 grain lead 45 bullet going out of a rifle is a ***** cat to shoot giving 1150 FPS and will probably kill all you need except the bison cleanly.

From the way its looking, I won't be hunting buffalo or any of the big game for some time, just the game here in Tennessee. So I think the 45 or 44 will be plenty.

MostlyLeverGuns
11-13-2019, 10:25 PM
I saw someone talk about lever-guns and 3" (3 MOA) groups at 100 yards. Maybe with open iron sights. Much better accuracy can be had with careful load development, a good scope, and bench technique required by the lever guns. I strive for 1" groups with 1.5" groups common at 100 yards.. Load development, a little tuning, technique and range time are all that is needed.

Petander
11-14-2019, 11:07 AM
Ergonomics matter a lot,too.

IMO,A modern Marlin SBL has half the perceived recoil compared to an older Guide Gun. I can't shoot bows anymore,bad right shoulder. But I can shoot a Marlin SBL 45-70 325 grain @ 1900 fps all day. No pain.

SBL has less drop and a good pad,much easier on the shooter than a standard 1895. I've had a couple.

Mad Mucus
11-14-2019, 11:40 AM
From the way its looking, I won't be hunting buffalo or any of the big game for some time, just the game here in Tennessee. So I think the 45 or 44 will be plenty.

Look for a Marlin Cowboy Ltd .45 Colt.
It has a 24" octagonal barrel which hefts and balances well.
Holds 13 rounds in the tube and is very accurate with 0.454" projectiles.

superior
11-14-2019, 07:45 PM
I’m assuming you DO roll your own. If not, disregard. My right shoulder is about shot and some days, I have trouble just lifting my arm. I have a 20” Rossi in 45Colt and without a pad between it and my shoulder, the metal but plate wreaks havoc, no matter what load I shoot. Otherwise, it’s my favorite for woods carry. 300 grain lee boolits over 19gr 2400 fill the magazine, as well as the cylinder on my RBH 7.5. In your case, I recommend the Marlin 1895g. I’ve found it to fill all of my needs. It’s short, light weight, has a rubber but pad, and can be loaded from mild to wild. 8 grains unique under a .459 roundball shoots to the same poa as 25 grains 2400 under a 405 grain pill in mine. Bottom line, like others here have written, 45-70 is a favorite of many. You can even shoot a 410 shot shell in a pinch.

MT Chambers
11-14-2019, 09:30 PM
If the 45/70 kicks to much, your best choices are .356 Win., .35 Rem., 30/30, end of story.

Mad Mucus
11-18-2019, 05:35 AM
I recommend you read these articles including .45 Colt

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/

Alstep
11-22-2019, 01:27 PM
Guess I'm going to be the oddball, but how about a ? Savage 99

Second oddball here, love mine!

If1Hitu
11-23-2019, 12:46 AM
My choice? Marlin .444, lil less recoil than 45/70 and you can tailor loads for anything from mice to moose.

My choice is what he said!

Norske
11-30-2019, 12:05 PM
Marlins are easy to clean from the breech. One screw and the bolt comes out.

uscra112
11-30-2019, 01:11 PM
But don't lose that little v-shaped ejector spring! (Says the man who now carries a spare under the buttplate.)

Eddie Southgate
11-30-2019, 04:56 PM
If I could afford one right now I would buy the Burgess reproduction that Taylor is selling . They are very cool looking and it is said they drop their empty's at your feet which is a huge plus to me since I reload everything I shoot and hate chasing empty cases all over the country . They are not cheap but look to be very high quality and the .45 Colt it comes in would be my choice since you can't shoot the boomers .

ELFEGO BACA
11-30-2019, 05:20 PM
I have a marlin 1895 in 45/70 and a Marlin 1894CB in 45 colt.
The 1895 has been a safe queen for three- four years.
The 45 colt is out more than in the safe being shoot mostly on the range.

smkummer
12-06-2019, 06:29 PM
If I could afford one right now I would buy the Burgess reproduction that Taylor is selling . They are very cool looking and it is said they drop their empty's at your feet which is a huge plus to me since I reload everything I shoot and hate chasing empty cases all over the country . They are not cheap but look to be very high quality and the .45 Colt it comes in would be my choice since you can't shoot the boomers .

I have one of these that I shoot in cowboy action. Love it. Don’t know if one can safely load above 45 colt sammi specs. My only complaint is it’s not easy to take apart and clean. The marlin 1894 is so easy to take apart and clean.

Drm50
12-06-2019, 09:59 PM
What ever you pick you will be better off with a Win or Marlin. Exception is the questionable quality of new Mar made by Rem. I like the older guns and newest Levers I have were Marlins from 50s-70. The Wins & Brns that are remakes of older Win models are nice guns too. Can't say much about these fairly new companies, some may make good guns and some are assembling foreign parts into guns or just importing. The Wins and Marlins been around 100yrs of prooven design. A guy is better off looking for a high condition old model gun than buying new in most cases. And in the more popular models will cost about the same. The older model gun kept in good shape will not loose value. The new stuff is just a used gun that is worth less than you paid for it when you pull the trigger.

beshears
12-06-2019, 11:29 PM
Why is no one mentioning the Browning BLR. Had one in 358, wish I still had it. Several different calibers. Easily scoped

smkummer
12-08-2019, 09:43 AM
Why is no one mentioning the Browning BLR. Had one in 358, wish I still had it. Several different calibers. Easily scoped
You forgot how hard it kicked with factory ammo.

az mule packer
12-10-2019, 11:55 AM
I have a several Winchester 94 30-30s, Marlin 45-70 1895ss guide gun and a Taylor's Huntsman 45 colt with Skinner sights with a 16" barrel. I've shot the 30-30 all my life since about 7yrs old. Killed my first deer with one, great guns. But, I have to say, the Taylor's 45 colt is a lot of fun to shoot and is very accurate. It has a 1/16 twist barrel. I've been shooting a 260gr LFNGC LBT molded hard cast bullet in it with excellent accuracy for a short battle. It's very handy to say the least and hardly any recoil compared to the 30-30 or 45-70.

Best of luck with whichever you choose.

onelight
12-10-2019, 12:48 PM
Why is no one mentioning the Browning BLR. Had one in 358, wish I still had it. Several different calibers. Easily scoped
Those are sweet rifles shooting buddy had one in 358 we loaded for and shot a lot.
I think Henry has a similar rifle also.

DueceMcGurk
12-11-2019, 02:11 AM
DVERNA hit the nail on the head. But, $5,000 hunt, prep time, one shot to take -- make mine a 45-70. Then it goes in the safe as my #6 favorite lever to shoot.

Ramjet-SS
12-11-2019, 08:33 AM
Expensive hunt use a scope. A top quality scope will make most guns shoot better than there owners are capable otherwise.
Hard to argue with a 45-70 except for range then the cartridges like 308 and 6.5 creedmore win out. Even a 30-30 improved will out distance the 45-70 in most shooters hands. Now if you are talking under 200 yards the 45-70 is hard to beat. But spend more on the scope than the rifle.....

Nathanj
12-12-2019, 09:43 AM
Of the two you "actually" asked about, the 44 mag or the 45LC. Personally I like the 44 in the Marlin. Load it up or load it down. Mine shoots 310 Lee Cast bullets very accurately and 240 cast equally as well. I've taken deer, bear, and hogs with it and it has performed perfectly. Recently took a 350 lb black bear with one shot with the Lee 310 loaded with 22 gr H110 he rolled over twice and surrendered. Nothing wrong with the 45LC either, I just find I use my 44 a lot more and my daughter started using one last year also.

FergusonTO35
12-14-2019, 01:16 PM
Apparently Rossi is making 92's again, our local Rural King has them in stock. Externally, they look really nice. Shiny bluing and really good wood to metal fit. The levers were zip tied so I couldn't cycle the action or look in the bore.