Lee Automatic Processing Press

[John3354]

New poster. I came here to see what everyone thought of the new Lee press that they are releasing in December that looks like it would be perfect for sizing powdercoated bullets, but didn't see anything about it.

https://leeprecision.com/app-automatic-processing-press/

250513

That paired with AmmoMike's bullet feeder in nose down configuration seems like it would make for really quick bullet sizing. It could also be just the ticket for depriming and they are going to have swaging dies for it to deal with military crimps. I think this is the first Lee product I have actually been excited about for a while. Just when I was about to start collecting materials for flipping my old Lee single stage and making a feeder assembly for it they come out with this and it appears that I won't need to build it at all if they have an off the shelf solution.

[sukivel]

I was about to flip my old Lee as well.

I like what I see and it seems priced well.


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[Conditor22]

Welcome to CB John3354

At first glance, this looks like a viable option with a smaller footprint than most DIY "machines" I can be used for sizing boolits (boolit = lead bullet) and taking the "Glock bulge" out of brass.

Lee's also come out with a press top primmer pocket swagger and several other new items this year.

[Valornor]

I’ll be honest. I look at this set up and compare what I do at home. I am not sure I see any advantage to doing it this way compared to how I currently use my Lee sizer.

I usually lower the ram just a little to place a bullet on the punch and push it through. Pause once in awhile to empty the catching container. It seems like it would take longer to fill the feeder tube then any really time saving you’d net from this.


To be fair, I’m looking at the photo and haven’t tried it. That’s just my first impression.


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[rancher1913]

your google fu is weak, there was a thread started about this press a few days ago.

[John3354]

I’ll be honest. I look at this set up and compare what I do at home. I am not sure I see any advantage to doing it this way compared to how I currently use my Lee sizer.

I usually lower the ram just a little to place a bullet on the punch and push it through. Pause once in awhile to empty the catching container. It seems like it would take longer to fill the feeder tube then any really time saving you’d net from this.

Maybe, maybe not. I run a Lock 'N' Load AP with bullet feeder dies and homemade feeder tubes. It is a lot faster to load with them, even though I manually load the tubes. Loading the tubes is pretty quick compared to the cumulative time it takes for you to stop a press, set a bullet and cycle. Plus you do not have to be very precise. It just has to be in the tube and oriented the proper direction.

But the real time savings would be from hooking it to something like AmmoMike's bullet collator. That would be the ticket for something like this. Just keep the collator fed and keep cranking the handle.

Another find from Lee's site today is that it appears they are releasing a new type of bullet sizer similar to the NOE push through collet dies.

https://leeprecision.com/home.php?cat=19556

[John3354]

your google fu is weak, there was a thread started about this press a few days ago.

Where? I can't find one.

[Valornor]

I think it’s different when you have a progressive press. You have a lot of operations going on at once, and each stroke is doing all those operations at the same time. You save a lot of time.

I guess maybe it would cut down on some time if you can just crank on the press, not worry about positioning the bullet. But if your placing a gas check on the bullet then any advantage you have goes out the window.


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[Rcmaveric]

Lol I was me. I started a thread earlier about. I found a picture of it in my Loadmaster manual.

I am glad they finally released it.

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[NoZombies]

The other thread was started before they had announced the press or the name.

[onelight]

this is an interesting tool I look forward to seeing how well they work.
this info is in the Lee sight now.
https://leeprecision.com/app-automatic-processing-press/

[Papercidal]

I have a phelps star clone with a bullet feeder setup (and a nose down conversion for my collator) but at the price they have it at I may have to get one to try I really like the lee push through dies.

[hpdrifter]

They should go whole hog and make a lubricator attachment.

A Lee lubrisizer...............hmmmmm.

[Walter Laich]

my current set-up is an upside down press and I DYIed a ramp to send the bullets down to the sizing die. with a handful of bullets in my right hand and my left on the handle and I make short work of 500 bullets.

that being said . . .
I could come up with a ramp or just try the automation attachment they have

in any event it would be a new toy :smile:

[Rcmaveric]

I want this.... I don't really need this. But I want it.

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[AR-Bossman]

I'm gonna get one right outta the gate. No just for bullet sizing, but for swaging almost ANY brass. Right now I can only do 223 and 308 on my LnL AP press.

[dikman]

Walter, I pretty much do what you do and it works fine. But I'm a bit like Rcmaveric......must fight the urge......

[onelight]

I will be watching to see if The Lee 4 tube case feeder and collator can be used with it I can't tell looking at the pictures
If so I will have to try one.

[OS OK]

Welcome aboard John3354 ... here at CB's this sizing business of cast bullets in the Lee push through dies did some morphing sometime back around 2016.

At first folks thought this setup here was the 'Bee's knees'...clean, cheap to get and use...but...it had it's drawbacks. It was relatively slow, you could pinch a finger guiding those lil casts up into the bottom of the die. We would see a post from time to time about someone getting totally into their sizing and overfilling the plastic container then pushing it apart so all the freshly sized cast would spill to the floor...this is when I posted what I thought was a big improvement...
...put a spring around the push post so you just drop the cast on the post...don't have to guide it up & pinch a finger...and then put a heavy rubber band around the red container and that was the end of pushing it apart and spilling the beans.

https://i.imgur.com/ntvixk4.jpg

Then in short order someone comes up with the idea of mounting a press upside down and how it would be so much easier to just drop the cast into the die. This was a solid idea so many of us started looking into this crazy idea of an 'Upside Down Press' ... people came out of the woodwork to detract from this idea but others came that jumped right in and together we few here at CB's tried to help each other come up with a solution to a mounting bracket for the press.
Contraptions went from mild to wild trying to figure a good way to do it as we saw the upside down press as the ultimate sizing solution.
I clamped my RCBS Jr. on the side of the loading table to give it a try and immediately I was convinced...'this is it boys!'

https://i.imgur.com/HFvDcdp.jpg

My next thought went immediately to a clean solution for a bracket that didn't look cobbled together and take up too much space. I mulled on it every day, even had a dream or two about 'upside down presses'...finally I came up with cutting a square steel tube for a mount where I didn't need to weld anything...this was the start of it here in my 'RabbitHole'...

https://i.imgur.com/2x1GO2e.jpg

While we all were going in different directions, posting pictures of press mount solutions, ole JBinMin chimes in with a curve ball and says..."I'm gonna mount my press on some kind of a swivel so I can flip the press over and size, then flip it back and load as usual.
Well...I go to mullin on his idea and come up with this crude sketch of what I thought he needed and posted this picture below...JB shouts..."Walllaugh, that's it!" and off he goes to pursue the 'swivel mount'. We were having a real good time helping each other with our projects...

https://i.imgur.com/wNjBJKg.jpg

In the mean time, I'm already thinking of a way to feed the upside down press without grabbing a handfull of casts and dropping them into the die hole...heck, for every other handfull of casts, I'd drop 2 or 4 to the floor or into the sized cast bin below the press...I needed a solution to feeding this monster that was fast and foolproof...another sketch to build an accessory 'feed table & drop tube'...

https://i.imgur.com/f1Hr0sg.jpg

This is how I was working the press while others were trying to design a 'drop tube'...simple thing now but at the moment I had no idea of how to rig that. Again more fellas are posting pictures of their feeding solutions...one of them was working the angle of using an air cylinder to power the ram...oh boy, the safety experts came out right away saying..."Impossible, makes no sense...your gonna chop your finger off!" Well we all collaborated and as it turned out it was possible...so off in another direction another member goes in his shop...

https://i.imgur.com/bFDQxiC.jpg

It wasn't too long before I had collected all the misc. parts-N-pieces to build my feed table...this is the last morph to my project and it's currently the way I feed the monster...it's fast as fast can be and I'm satisfied and thankful for all the help I received from the other members here on CB's.

https://i.imgur.com/yS14Qiy.jpg

Today, it's about 'time and speed of sizing' we all want to get this job done and move on with our handloading...

MONOTONOUS DUTY _ WANNA RACE?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcvhKHVn7gU&t=1s

Many here have our doubt's about LEE's new addition to their line, will it work or will it need the expertise of the customer to make it work well (if it does at all) as we all have been bit by LEE's shortcuts in engineering and cost cutting methods to sell at a cheaper rate.
We'll see very soon...if you need a fast sizer and don't go with Lee then remember this...


"There's more than one way to skin a cat!"

[kevin c]

I have an upside down mounted Lee C press for sizing, but I'm thinking, at the proposed price point, the partially automated features and sizing on the downstroke may beat hand feeding and sizing on the upstroke.

[RedlegEd]

Hi all! I guess the impulse/urge got the better of me and I pre-ordered a Deluxe Kit with FS Reloading (https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-deluxe-automatic-processing-press-kit.html) with expected shipments starting in January. I'm already using a flipped Lee Classic Cast press for sizing coupled with Ammo Mike's bullet collator (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?354324-Making-that-Bullet-Collator) (I got my nose-down version from Karl Bibb who is authorized by Mike to make & sell them.) I've since gotten my own 3D printer and now can make additional collator wheels for the calibers I shoot, as well as make/tweak parts to fit my set up. I'm hoping the Lee APP lends itself to easily accept the bullets fed from the collator. It would certainly beat the way I'm doing it now. I'll let you all know how it comes out when I get mine. Ed

[onelight]

Hi all! I guess the impulse/urge got the better of me and I pre-ordered a Deluxe Kit with FS Reloading (https://fsreloading.com/lee-precision-deluxe-automatic-processing-press-kit.html) with expected shipments starting in January. I'm already using a flipped Lee Classic Cast press for sizing coupled with Ammo Mike's bullet collator (http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?354324-Making-that-Bullet-Collator) (I got my nose-down version from Karl Bibb who is authorized by Mike to make & sell them.) I've since gotten my own 3D printer and now can make additional collator wheels for the calibers I shoot, as well as make/tweak parts to fit my set up. I'm hoping the Lee APP lends itself to easily accept the bullets fed from the collator. It would certainly beat the way I'm doing it now. I'll let you all know how it comes out when I get mine. Ed
I look forward to a review when you get acquainted with it .
I have resisted ordering so far but it sure does look like a handy press.

[Beetmagnet]

I'm going to have to get this as my bullet sizer is scheduled to stop working next year.

[jessdigs]

Well with black Friday sale dropping the price from $110 to $78, I couldn't help but pre-order today. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191130/60d531d4d964ed662e81c0e43c6c52fa.jpg

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[jessdigs]

The non deluxe version is down to $55 from $75 right now. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191130/4aa00b9bc1eba10d5f729acb7d0212d8.jpg

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[AR-Bossman]

Thanks guys I didn't notice they dropped the price. I have my pre-order. Only thing is they didn't have the breach lock resizer kits... at least that I could find

[richhodg66]

Where? I can't find one.

This is the original thread about it.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?390198-It-s-official-Lee-will-be-releasing-an-quot-upside-down-quot-bullet-sizing-press

[jessdigs]

Thanks guys I didn't notice they dropped the price. I have my pre-order. Only thing is they didn't have the breach lock resizer kits... at least that I could findYou can buy them right now on Lee precision site.
Here's a pic of the offered sizes with custom size still being an option (.355)
https://leeprecision.com/breech-lock-bullet-sizing-kit/

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[Loudy13]

someone just put this on the youtube.

https://youtu.be/InOzvm2BnXQ

[AR-Bossman]

I'll update this thread as well.

It is confirmed you can use your OLD style LEE sizing dies with the APP.

[Kenstone]

That vid is from Lee and there is 2 more vids on this press on the Lee site.
Vids:
https://leeprecision.com/deluxe-app-press.html
:p

[ShortColt]

Pre-ordered mine. Anybody know if standard lee push through sizers can be made to work? Do I need to replace all my dies with breech lock sizing kits?

[Kenstone]

Pre-ordered mine. Anybody know if standard lee push through sizers can be made to work? Do I need to replace all my dies with breech lock sizing kits?

Std lee push through sizers will work
No need to replace them

[Rcmaveric]

I am getting antsy. I want one.

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[Ccrfs1246]

Has anyone got there’s yet I have ordered one though Titan but haven’t heard anything from them yet about shipping it

[onelight]

Look here som of the guys have them in hand.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?390198-It-s-official-Lee-will-be-releasing-an-quot-upside-down-quot-bullet-sizing-press

[Springfield]

I called Titan yesterday and asked about my order from the 15th. The nice lady said they are just waiting on more from LEE, but considering the recency of my order I should probably not expect it soon, as in less than a month. If this works well I am going to start knocking out primers before wet tumbling, been having a few high primers, and a dirty primer hole can cause this.

[Ccrfs1246]

Well I guess I will have to wait a little longer then. I ordered mine around the same time.

[OS OK]

How about a NOE size die in the APP?
Yup...you can do it...

https://thereloadersnetwork.com/2020/01/30/lee-app-with-noe-sizing-die/

[onelight]

How about a NOE size die in the APP?
Yup...you can do it...

https://thereloadersnetwork.com/2020/01/30/lee-app-with-noe-sizing-die/
That is great Lee is going to update the Sheol holder and the NOE sizer worked slick all good news.
Thanks for posting the link to the video.

[tomme boy]

Anyone that ordered from Midsouth get theirs yet? Sounds like Lee and Titan were the only ones that got them.

[hd09]

looks like Grafs got a few

[tomme boy]

Just got the email from Midsouth that the press is in. Hopefully have it by the end of the week.

[hpdrifter]

I've been considering getting one and I may have read this somewhere before, but I'm guessing any push thru type sizing die will work with this unit.

Would this be correct?

I've got a few old style Lee's, but they make them in such a limited range, I was also thinking about getting the Noe setup.

Will it work with the new APP press?

Thanks.

[onelight]

I've been considering getting one and I may have read this somewhere before, but I'm guessing any push thru type sizing die will work with this unit.

Would this be correct?

I've got a few old style Lee's, but they make them in such a limited range, I was also thinking about getting the Noe setup.

Will it work with the new APP press?

Thanks.
Here is a link to a video he shows how he set up for the NOE sizer.
He also has made a video showing how to set up with the older Lee sizer dies. https://youtu.be/wT33yAJDqAk

[hpdrifter]

Here is a link to a video he shows how he set up for the NOE sizer.
He also has made a video showing how to set up with the older Lee sizer dies. https://youtu.be/wT33yAJDqAk

Watched most of the video. Seems he is using the Lee push rod with the Noe Die inserted "upside-down"

All well and good, but I was wanting specifically to start with 375 and Lee doesn't even offer a 375 push rod.

Hmmmm???

Don't think I want to order a special order die set.

[Engineer1911]

Wait for the Lee upgraded version of the Dillon 450 progressive press, all of the functions including 1/2 price replacement warranty.

[hpdrifter]

I received my APP press yesterday. Got it setup to de-prime 45 ACP and size 45 ACP bullets(451)
that I powder coated and some 45 Colt(452

This thing almost makes if feel like a sin it's so fast and easy.

I'm gonna have to cast and shoot some more; I'm out of bullets to size and almost out of 45ACP to size.

[onelight]

I received my APP press yesterday. Got it setup to de-prime 45 ACP and size 45 ACP bullets(451)
that I powder coated and some 45 Colt(452

This thing almost makes if feel like a sin it's so fast and easy.

I'm gonna have to cast and shoot some more; I'm out of bullets to size and almost out of 45ACP to size.
Great to hear it's working so well , looks like a bargain to me.

[megasupermagnum]

I received my APP press yesterday. Got it setup to de-prime 45 ACP and size 45 ACP bullets(451)
that I powder coated and some 45 Colt(452

This thing almost makes if feel like a sin it's so fast and easy.

I'm gonna have to cast and shoot some more; I'm out of bullets to size and almost out of 45ACP to size.

I know. I had been looking at this bag of brass for some time now, always wanting to get around to it. Next thing you know, I've got 1500 sized and cleaned in just a few hours. I better cast some more bullets to go in them.

[Iowa Fox]

Wait for the Lee upgraded version of the Dillon 450 progressive press, all of the functions including 1/2 price replacement warranty.

Do you know something we don't. I would sure like to hear more. I do own a 450, they are nice presses.

[Mollyboy]

How about a NOE size die in the APP?
Yup...you can do it...

https://thereloadersnetwork.com/2020/01/30/lee-app-with-noe-sizing-die/

NOE has an adapter for the app press listed on their website

[retread]

Got my APP from Titan Reloading this afternoon. Ordered the bullet sizing sstuff too but only set it up and deprimed around a thousand 9MM in no time. I think it is well worth what I paid and am real pleased with the results so far. I had a four tube case collator set up, so I installed it rather than the single tupe that came with it. Worked great.

[RedlegEd]

NOE has an adapter for the app press listed on their website

Hi Mollyboy!
Here's the link: https://noebulletmolds.com/site/shop/lee_products/lee-app/app-adapter-for-using-noe-bushings
I'll bet Lee didn't think their new press would be as popular as it is.
Ed

[LittleLebowski]

Swaging range pickup .300BO.


https://youtu.be/XOiLDbzu3aM

[onelight]

That is working good 😀