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roysha
09-30-2019, 05:37 PM
Does anyone know if such a thing is available? If so, where? All I can find are for the AR 15.

M-Tecs
09-30-2019, 05:43 PM
AR 15 carbine length springs are the one ones I know of. Contact these guys they may have a source.

https://geissele.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Super+42+Braided+Wire+Buffer+Spring

https://www.neverwearsprings.com/

edslau33
09-30-2019, 05:50 PM
So they are actually the same spring. So you can use them. I have one in mine. It works great. So the only thing to remember is the buffer is shorter so you can’t use a carbine buffer like a t3 unless you use like a longer tube.


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edslau33
09-30-2019, 05:51 PM
So they are actually the same spring. So you can use them. I have one in mine. It works great. So the only thing to remember is the buffer is shorter so you can’t use a carbine buffer like a t3 unless you use like a longer tube.


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Mine also is set up at carbine length. Buffer is only difference


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M-Tecs
09-30-2019, 05:59 PM
Carbine and rifles length springs are different lengths.

https://forum.308ar.com/topic/730-buffers-and-springs/

https://www.wingtactical.com/buyers-guide-for-buffers-buffer-springs/

https://gundigest.com/more/how-to/gunsmithing/gunsmithing-the-ar-3-tips-for-buffers-recoil-springs

https://www.arbuildjunkie.com/guide-for-choosing-buffers-buffer-tubes-and-buffer-springs/

daengmei
10-02-2019, 03:38 PM
Those different lengths caused me some headaches till I understood which to use.

Texas by God
10-02-2019, 06:52 PM
Which Spring and which buffer goes in a mid-length AR-15?

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M-Tecs
10-02-2019, 07:57 PM
Which Spring and which buffer goes in a mid-length AR-15?

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Which stock does it have? Barrel and gas system length is not part of this equation. The length of the buffer tube is the determining factor. A collapsible carbine stock uses a carbine spring and buffer regardless of whether it's on a carbine, mid-length or rifle length barrel. An A1 stock with a carbine length barrel uses the rifle length buffer and spring.

Texas by God
10-02-2019, 08:20 PM
Thanks. I learn here.

nun2kute
10-02-2019, 08:36 PM
I need an education !!!

What is so special about these springs ?

Lloyd Smale
10-22-2019, 01:30 PM
I use wolf extra power ar10 springs in all my ars except for the 556 guns. that's ar10s, blackouts 9mms and 50 beo. Even use them in 556 handguns with pistol length gas systems. Unlike some I tune first with springs and then buffers. IMO to many just throw in heave buffers and it makes your gun sluggish.

Baltimoreed
10-23-2019, 09:19 AM
I’ve gone with the tubbs flat springs. You get a spring with more coils that collapses to the same or less length as a round spring. In my blowback AR .45’s it seems to soften the bolt recoil movement considerably.

uscra112
10-23-2019, 07:01 PM
I need an education !!!

What is so special about these springs ?

Absolutely nothing. Speaking as a retired career BSME, I have no explanation why anybody would even make such a thing. Other than to fool the rubes into parting with their hard earned wages.

Lloyd Smale
10-24-2019, 08:39 AM
that's where a got the advice on 308 springs in an 15. I was having problems with my ar 9mm pistol and found a company on line that specializes in them and even getting them to run a 100 percent with a binary trigger. He said the best thing to do with any blow back ar15 is put a heavier ar10 buffer spring in it. I had advice like going to heavier buffers and had them up to 10 oz and none of it helped he told me to run a ar10 spring with a 5.5 oz buffer and my gun hasn't missed a beat since. He made sense he said the heavier spring keeps the bolt in batter a spilit second longer and with the heavier bolt of blow back gun already making it heavy you don't need a 8 or 10 oz buffer because all it does is slow the bolt for coming back. So much so that if you have a binary trigger or even shoot fast with your stock trigger your finger will outrun your gun.
I’ve gone with the tubbs flat springs. You get a spring with more coils that collapses to the same or less length as a round spring. In my blowback AR .45’s it seems to soften the bolt recoil movement considerably.

Baltimoreed
10-24-2019, 11:43 AM
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My first ar45 [oly bcg- oly bbl- ar.45 lower- dpms slabside upper] was put together by a black rifle outfit who didn’t know squat about ar’s in 45 that were blowback operated and I eventually had damage to my lower where the oly [gas key] block struck the top rear of the lower. I did some research and learned about my rifle and found the largest buffer available and in an effort to mitigate the bcg recoil and forward to battery impulses I went with the ar10 tubbs springs. Works fine now. I eventually learned how these critters work and built 3 so far and thinking about a 4th. Here’s my first after it became a sbr.