Change in the way MP-Molds is going to do Group Buys

[DukeInFlorida]

Miha posted this is one of my group buys:
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Dhl is what I use from now on. Many problems with post lately.
If you look closer you will see that mold is 76€ + shipping 11€. I know it is a bit more than declared, but you will have mold in 3-5days. (and you can track it all the time).


Because of DHL I don't send invoices anymore.
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The Honchos need to discuss, perhaps with Miha, a NEW PLAN for handling the collection of group buy participants, since he's no longer going to do invoicing. Looks like he's merely going to send participants to his web site to buy directly. This is a significant change in how group buys have been done. All group buys need to let list members know of this change..

[PbHurler]

Thanks for the news Duke.

The only concern I might have is if a mold, as part of a group buy I signed up for, could be "bought out from under me" by someone else and how the list of "signees" will be given first shot on the buys.

Like you've stated, the Honcho's need to get things worked out with Miha. I'll be staying tuned, rest assured.

Thanks

[JimB..]

I’ve been waiting on an invoice...guess I’ll check his website.

[45workhorse]

:popcorn:

[DukeInFlorida]

Apparently, one of his recent Post Office shipments got sent all the way back to Miha, and then had to get re-shipped to the States again. Guess the Post office wasn't happy with having to wait for a signature. DHL always delivers, and it comes much faster.

It's my understanding that beginning with my recent 45 ACP lightweight SWC mold, and all subsequent molds, getting on the list gets you a mold made, but no more invoicing like he has always done it. The 45 mold had some PC (powder coat/no lube groove) orders, and he's still working on machining those. He always makes a couple of extras of everything, so maybe you shouldn't worry about anyone grabbing a mold from under you. However, some guys take a while to pay the previous invoices. That delayed payment might not be so good any more. Dunno. I've got one more mold to work through, and then I am retiring from HONCHO duty.

I'm hoping the best for everyone. Miha and his company, MP-Molds, has been amazing to work with (as a vendor), and as most of you already know, his work is breathtaking quality. So, I know his group buys will continue to be a success, he and the remaining honchos just need to work out the new wrinkle.

Thanks to all my group buy buyers for working with me over the past few years. And, a special thanks to the admins/moderators/ and the rest of the great people here at CB who make this all really possible in the first place. There are other places to buy custom molds out there. But, none like this amazing community.

[brass410]

when does this start taking effect is it going all the way back (been waiting over a year on one ) or will it be from this date forward on new group buys?

[phaessler]

Thank you Duke. I appreciate the heads up.

[DukeInFlorida]

My understanding is that it is on all Discussion, Currently Active, and recently machined (and ready to start shipping orders). In other words, he has NOW (effective immediately) switched to DHL shipping. And, that change necessitates the way he will no longer issue invoices. All orders will need to get paid for directly through his web site. So, if you have a mold(s) coming, and haven't paid for it yet, this effects you, and the payment for those molds.

Please note that Miha has NEVER asked anyone to pay ahead of time for molds you are on a list for. You are only responsible for paying when he indicates the molds are ready to ship. So, if you are early on in the process (like still waiting for molds to get machined), save your pennies. You won't need to pay at his web site until they are machined and ready to ship. Clear enough?

[brass410]

good to go thanks for heads up, this will probably streamline things at his end and make for better production. Whatever it takes he produces a high quality product and I truly appreciate that.

[autodidact]

Since this is effective immediately........

How will I be notified that group buy molds are in his e-shop and ready to be purchased?

How will he prevent someone buying my mold before I can?

Thanks,
JB

[Echd]

The addition of DHL was good if you have lazy mailmen and incompetent postal workers who frequently don't actually attempt deliveries, or who will misplace packages at the post office after leaving a delivery slip in the mailbox but never checking to see if you were actually home, or who will at random deliver the mail to people several miles down the road from you because you have the same last name even if you don't know who they are and they don't know you.

On the plus side, due to the incompetence of my local postal service I've gotten to meet a lot of new people, as I take misdelivered mail to houses in the area and have misdelivered mail delivered to me...

[DukeInFlorida]

Post Office and UPS mis-delivered mail hasn't worked out so well for me and most people. Too many dis-honest people around. I once had an expensive 45 Long Colt Contender barrel, which was sent UPS, insured, get dropped off at a wrong house, and it took 4 months to deal with. You are lucky.

On the other hand, the DHL guy always rings the doorbell, smiles, and hands me the package. There is a great way (if you sign up with DHL) to give permission to leave the package (you allow that permission to be the same as a signature). They have NEVER mis-delivered a package. This is an amazing improvement. Just a couple of hurdles to now (for some of you) to get used to.

[Wayne S]

So,
If the GB molds go into his E store, that those that have no use for PP and use a CC ??

[Nodakjohns]

I have tried buying molds off his site. Never had any luck. Third phone i have tried on his site to order molds and 3 times no luck.his site shows up all wonky and nothing goes into the cart. Tried many times to sign in. Won't let me. Guessing i will have to stick with NOE.

[DukeInFlorida]

Are those of you having issues trying to do this buying using your cell phones?

If so, this MIGHT be an unexpected issue for Miha. It's possible that his site has not properly been optimized for use with current phone systems. I'm asking as a way to assist Miha with fixing the issues some of you are having.
I have no issues with buying molds on his site using my PC.

[tja6435]

I ordered this last .45 mold from his website on my phone just fine

[Echd]

I've never had an issue with his site on mobile.

If it causes an issue for some reason for you, change the option to display the site as if it were a desktop site. Depending on your browser that is done differently, but any common browser will have the option.

[Nodakjohns]

Thank you. I think i tried that before, but will try again.

[JimB..]

I have successfully purchased from his site.

[autodidact]

There is a great way (if you sign up with DHL) to give permission to leave the package (you allow that permission to be the same as a signature).

Miha must do his part for this to work. I have tried several times recently to manage mold delivery in the way you describe and have been told by DHL managers that the shipper must register the package appropriately before the recipient has any control over its delivery.

[autodidact]

Since this is effective immediately........

How will I be notified that group buy molds are in his e-shop and ready to be purchased?

How will he prevent someone buying my mold before I can?

Thanks,
JB

Do we know these answers, yet?

[Hamish]

Exactly what I was wondering. How do you stop some random guy from the hinterlands showing up five minutes after Miha lists it in the E store and buys the mould from a GB you've been waiting a year or more for, before you even know it's completed and ready to be paid for?

[dkf]

Do we know these answers, yet?

It would be nice. Frankly Miha should step in here and should have been the one to bring all this to attention. A honcho or former honcho should not have to do it. All the business he has gotten from guys here on CB I think we earned that courtesy.

[Lakehouse2012]

Do we know these answers, yet?

Gentlemen..... I've been preoccupied with getting my daughters marriage wrapped and in the books, now complete!

The GB's will be assigned to a single person, through an email or profile name on CB. What you are seeing now with Miha's site is phase 1 of 3 phases.

PH 1: is to assign a mold GB to a specific user, so that Miha knows his stock-count, and you know that its been assigned to you as the buyer.
PH 2: Create an account over on his MP-molds.com site, preferably one that you also use here so it's easier to cross examine
PH 3: CB will eventually be a gateway, to reach the 1000s of people on this site, to apply his molds directly to you.

I think this will be the ultimate! We will be able track flights

[DukeInFlorida]

Miha reported that there were (past tense) some recent issues with his web site. Should all be OK now.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?365531-CLOSED-MP-Molds-version-of-155-grain-45-cliber-SWC-boolit-previously-made-by-LEE&p=4728680&viewfull=1#post4728680

[bluejay75]

And cut down on over runs for him. Both he and Al at NOE look for ways to not carry stock from Group Buys where Molds were ordered and not paid. Both are running 70-80% sign ups to buys.

This way after an allotted time the molds can be opened up to everyone.

Win win...for all.

And maybe he can post his list of over run molds on hand since he’s doing site adds.

[DukeInFlorida]

Miha certainly needs to keep his on-line inventory updated. For example, and as a test, I went looking for a recent 500 S&W Mag group buy, the pointy bullet. Couldn't find it on his site although I am sure (positive!) he has some leftovers.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?363211-CLOSED-New-Pointy-500-S-amp-W-Mag-boolit&highlight=

Not sure if Miha does his own web updates, or if he has a person to do that for him. But, there's a lot of updating to be done. Many of the somewhat recent group buy molds are not currently listed.

[Sig556r]

Just paid my GB order of MP.452-155-SWC-PB-6cav-NLG as a guest, anyone really can snatch those GBs. I know we have 2 NLG orders but there were 5 available, then 4, now 3. Miha will email you the link if you're in the GB so you get first shot if you do your part.
It was a smooth transaction but even if you choose $ currency, it'll revert back to EU when you pay thru PP & exchange rate is EU=$1.15 (current rate is EU1:$1.10), guess PP makes a little cut on exchange which they call currency spread.
Anyways, just sharing my experience.

[phaessler]

This is the first board to offer this information, several other boards where MP molds are available arent as up to speed with it yet. Perhaps this will consolidate the quantities from all the available purchase outlets needed to push a buy through and get them delivered faster.
Ordered an in stock mold on 9/13/19 from MP, had it in hand 9/19/19...DHL tracking was great.
Lets hope this speeds things up, (along with the hollow point pin supplier he uses too)

Pete

[jaydub in wi]

DHL tracking is great and the shipping is fast. Ordered a 45 ruger only mold Sunday afternoon and it's here Wednesday afternoon. Can't beat it

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[Old School Big Bore]

My most recent M-P mould buy was direct off his site. I used my desktop and had no problem, but in the past I have had site glitches there. I was glad to see that it's been debugged. In connection with that purchase, I had two separate issues with DHL that were really aggravating. The shipment got delayed in San Antonio - I was not given a reason nor advised how long it would be. No update came when it continued. Then the mould showed up but was left on a gatepost instead of being delivered. I have no idea how long it sat there and am just glad my spouse spotted it rather than the meth-squito porch pirates nabbing it. I did not check the 'no signature' block. Three days later, I got the DHS 'your package has been delivered' email. Hopefully they will do better.
Thanks very much for the heads-up.

[megasupermagnum]

This is not good news if you ask me. I've had my problems with USPS, but I use them the most. No problems with Fedex, UPS, or Speedee. I'll pinch my nose in this case, otherwise I normally refuse DHL. No other carrier has consistently been as slow. It used to be a running joke, you could pull up the tracking and watch the package come to your state, then get sent 1000 miles away, sit for 4 days, overnight make it to the wrong state, then finally be out for delivery. Then you knew it would be there in 2-3 days. They don't like to knock either. Either the package gets dumped, or they keep driving if no car is in the driveway. I've seen it. Best case is DHL gets it into the US and passes it to the USPS.

[megasupermagnum]

Here is another question I don't see, maybe I missed it. How are we going to get a 15% group buy discount? Maybe coupon code?

[Camper64]

Here is another question I don't see, maybe I missed it. How are we going to get a 15% group buy discount? Maybe coupon code?

See this link. http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?388638-MP-molds-improvements-to-GB-and-invoicing-process