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hedgehorn
11-02-2008, 06:54 PM
Does anyone here know how much higher I should have to hold at 200 yds than 100yds?
I am shooting a Marlin XLR with a Ranch Dog TLC460-425-RF. I have the rear sight at the highest elevation and still have to hold about 4" over my target at 100 yds. Seams to shoot two feet low at 200? Thanks in advance.

missionary5155
11-02-2008, 07:29 PM
Greetings Deepending on how tall your front sight is you could REDUCE that some... I personally would just make myself a taller rear sight elevator. You may be able to yet cut another notch in your present rear sight elevator.. but if you want to shoot to 200 yards and you are 2 feet low you need probably 3 notches more elevation. You can also set your present elevator completely under the rear sight as a test to see if that is tall enough for 200 yrds.
Any piece of metal the same thickness or some thinner will work to make a new elevator. Make your first notch the hieght of your present highest notch and add notches. I would double the new notch hieght compared to the origonal difference in notch hieghts.
I have done this for my 38-55 Winny when I decided to shoot out to farther distance...
Not knowing your velocity or load makes this rather guessy but there is my idea.

hedgehorn
11-02-2008, 07:42 PM
with 32 grains of H4895 it should be pushing about 1500 fps. I hadnt thought about making a new rear sight elevator. I will also look into the front sights available for this rifle. I know that this rifle was designed around the lighter LEVEREVOLUTION ammo but I want to shoot my own cast boolits. I hope to get it to shoot dead on at 100 yds. :)

6pt-sika
11-02-2008, 08:01 PM
You can get a lower front sight , but if I were you I would get a Williams peep sight that mounts in the rear scope mount holes !

But better yet I would scope the darn thing !

I shoot the bullet you are asking about in a Marlin 1895G with a LEupold 1-4x and it does very well for me !

And on the other hand I have a 1895XLR , but that one is a Leverevolution only rifle now !

6pt-sika
11-02-2008, 08:03 PM
FWIW , I use the William's peep sights I mention on my lever silhouette rifles !

It works pretty well on my 336CB 30-30 and my 1894CCL 32-20 . And the same sight will work on your 1895XLR [smilie=1:

hedgehorn
11-02-2008, 08:43 PM
something like this? It doesn't give the measurements for the screws mine are real close to 1/2 inch apart. http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=774488

beemer
11-02-2008, 09:29 PM
That should work ,I had one on my 1895SS but switched to a Marbles tang sight. It now resides on a 30-30. I did buy the one with click adjustments but otherwise it's the same.The 1895 and the 336 are basically the same reciever.

beemer

hedgehorn
11-02-2008, 09:31 PM
Thanks beemer. I wondered about the tang sight too. How do you like it compared to the peep?

Just Duke
11-02-2008, 11:56 PM
FWIW , I use the William's peep sights I mention on my lever silhouette rifles !

It works pretty well on my 336CB 30-30 and my 1894CCL 32-20 . And the same sight will work on your 1895XLR [smilie=1:


What he said.

hedgehorn
11-03-2008, 12:00 AM
I ordered that sight from midway :-D I use the peep on my AR's as well as my garand. I think I will like it on my XLR :drinks:

Four Fingers of Death
11-03-2008, 05:37 AM
If you are on the money at 100, you'd br better walking 100 yards closer and using the same sight setting. :)

6pt-sika
11-03-2008, 11:58 AM
something like this? It doesn't give the measurements for the screws mine are real close to 1/2 inch apart. http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=774488


Thats what you want , but like Mick I would suggest you get the more expensive Williams Foolproof version over the Williams 5D . It's maybe $25 difference I think .

Jon K
11-03-2008, 04:28 PM
Not only is the FP better.........it is on sale......with 2 Fire sight front sights for $20........more than the 5D.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=799753

Now about the tang sight for the 336. It has a big blockie base, which does not allow you to grip the stock, with your thumb over the top of the grip.
http://www.midwayusa.com/midwayusa/staticpages/highres/123620.jpg

I have the Williams FP 336-TK on my 1895 CB, I mounted the Marble's on first, and less than 10 shots and I took it off. I guess it's OK if you can shoot the gun with your thumb on the right side of the grip. I like to wrap my hand around it.

Jon

beemer
11-03-2008, 04:36 PM
Jon is right about the Marbles tang, it works for targets but would not really be my first choice for hunting. The FP is a good sight, the click adjustments are easier to work with and worth the extra money.

beemer

August
11-03-2008, 05:31 PM
On my No. 3 Ruger -- which is very similar in barrel length and sight set-up -- I have it sighted for 100 and hold about 2/3 of the blade that holds the bead above the rear sight notch for 200. This has produced very consistent and repeatable results. YMMV

hedgehorn
11-03-2008, 10:20 PM
Well I didnt know the difference between the FP and the regular 5D when I ordered it. I should have waited a day before I ordered it. I guess we live and learn (the hard way) sometimes. ;)

runnin lead
11-04-2008, 12:42 PM
Besides being in the way of your thumb the Marbles tang is in the way for cleaning . to get the bolt out I have to remove the 2 side screws & take the tang sight out of its base

Just Duke
11-04-2008, 12:51 PM
Not only is the FP better.........it is on sale......with 2 Fire sight front sights for $20........more than the 5D.
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=799753

Now about the tang sight for the 336. It has a big blockie base, which does not allow you to grip the stock, with your thumb over the top of the grip.
http://www.midwayusa.com/midwayusa/staticpages/highres/123620.jpg

I have the Williams FP 336-TK on my 1895 CB, I mounted the Marble's on first, and less than 10 shots and I took it off. I guess it's OK if you can shoot the gun with your thumb on the right side of the grip. I like to wrap my hand around it.

Jon

OH MY! That just don't look right. :(

jackley
11-04-2008, 01:23 PM
I bought a higher rear sight elevator from the gum shop in Gillett WY. If you look around I'm sure you can find one in your area. Before I got that one I just silver soldered a piece of metal to the bottom of my first one. Hope this helps.

Jerry

hedgehorn
11-04-2008, 09:22 PM
allot of great information here. I will try the 5D and I do hope it works out well. I can't wait to dial it in!