ACTIVE?: MP Molds Buckbuster 12 GA POLYWAD Slug HB Mold

[bluejay75]

MP Molds Buckbuster 12 GA POLYWAD Slug HB Mold

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Original discussion thread. Nearly every question that you may have should be covered here.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?386210-Buckbuster-12-gauge-slug

Options and details . .
1. Mold will be available in 2 Cavity brass HB.
2. Available in .678 and .680 diameters.
3. Comes with .08 and .10 Basewall Thickness pins

Disguised Email- Diameter- Zip Code if you want to be able to track your package

Example:

j_bownes at yahoo dot com –2 Cavity-.678 Diameter-All Pins- 12121

Cost is as follows:

HB Slug Molds -
- 2 Cavity HB all pins included 110 Euro's with discount


These prices will be converted to us dollars when you get the paypal invoice.


Add a set of Handles for 20 additional Euros. A savings of 3 off standard pricing.

10 Molds sends it Active. 20 Gets it Cut.

Please include your (disguised) email address with your request.
Miha will send out invoices about the time the buy gets closed. Payment's through PayPal (he's in Slovenia). Shipping's direct.

1)j_bownes at yahoo dot com –2 Cavity-.678 Diameter-All Pins- 27540
2)petander (at) gmail dottie com - 2 cavity .680 plus handles
3)rancher1913atyahoodotcom–2 Cavity-.680 Diameter-All Pins-80701
4)rancher1913atyahoodotcom–2 Cavity-.678 Diameter-All Pins- 80701
5)middle earth sales and service at g mail dot com–2 Cavity-.678 Diameter-All Pins-
6)middle earth sales and service at g mail dot com–2 Cavity-.678 Diameter-All Pins-
7)Rcmaveric at cox dot net –2 Cavity-.678 Diameter-All Pins- 32212
8)twcondon94 at gmail dot com –2 Cavity-.680 Diameter-All Pins- 55302
9)glockman1000 at gmail dot com –2 Cavity-.680 Diameter-All Pins-96929
10)joharm at AOL dot com–2 Cavity-.680 Diameter-All Pins- 32934
11)idahopops at hundred years link.net –2 Cavity-.680 Diameter-All Pins-+ Handles-83605
12)ke4vpn at gmail dot net - 2 Cavity-.680 Diameter-All Pins-28073
13)twgrubb3 at gmail dot com. 2 cavity .680” all pins plus handles 41143
14)Lrackulyk. At gmail dot. Com -2 cavity .680” all pins
15)stripercrazy@yahoo dot com-2 cavity .680” all pins
Requested Run amount____________________________________________ ________
16)ktlachac at aol dot com (1)–2 Cavity mold-.678 Diameter-All Pins- + handles 54220
17)dh03021991 at gmail dot com–2 Cavity-.680 Diameter-All Pins

[megasupermagnum]

Why does it have tumble lube grooves? this is meant for inside a wad cup. This slug is not meant to be lubed.

[bluejay75]

Why does it have tumble lube grooves? this is meant for inside a wad cup. This slug is not meant to be lubed.

So the same cherry can be used for the Full Bore slug. Should be negligible difference in a wad.

[longbow]

I'm in!

thesmiths at telus dot net - one 2 cavity mould - 0.680" Diameter - all pins - V1N 1S2

Did I do it right?

Now I'm excited!

Longbow

[rancher1913]

rancher1913atyahoodotcom, 2 cav 680 dia all pins 80701
rancher1913atyahoodotcom, 2 cav 678 dia all pins 80701

put me down for one of each.

[longbow]

Forgot to ask... can we order extra pins?

[jmort]

Put me down for two please
.678" with .10" skirt
middle earth sales and service at g mail dot com

If you put up a full bore I will take two of those as well

Fantastic looking design

[bluejay75]

Forgot to ask... can we order extra pins?

Would'nt see why not... 1 set?

[Rcmaveric]

Put me down for one.

Rcmaveric at cox dot net –2 Cavity-.678 Diameter-All Pins- 32212



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[longbow]

I'd like at least one extra set of 0.080" skirt pins so I can turn them of do whatever. Depending on price I'd really like 2 spare sets of 0.080" skirt pins.

Can we get a price estimate?

So to better answer, I'd like one spare set of 0.080" skirt pins for sure. If they aren't stupidly expensive I'll get 2 sets.

Thanks,
Longbow

[megasupermagnum]

So the same cherry can be used for the Full Bore slug. Should be negligible difference in a wad.

Since the bottom will be bored out anyway, could he pull up on the cherry to cut smooth sides? I've never tried such a thing myself.

[megasupermagnum]

I'll take one regardless.

twcondon94 at gmail dot com - 2 cavity - .680" diameter - both base pins - 55302

[Tmaloy]

I'll take one.

glockman1000 at gmail dot com -2 cavity -.678 diameter- both pin sets -96929.



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[mortyg]

I'm in.

joharm at AOL dot com, 2 Cavity-.680 Diameter-All Pins, 32934

When will the full bore list get started?

[longbow]

Where is everybody! We need another 10 moulds signed up for! Let's rock 'n roll!

Surely there's more slug casters out there that could use one or two (or even three or four) of these beauties!

[Tmaloy]

Honcho please update my request to a .680 diameter. No other changes please.

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[00BuckOperator]

Please make a fullbore .729 version

[bluejay75]

Please make a fullbore .729 version

I already have the drawing and they will be cut from the same cherry.

[00BuckOperator]

Awesome!
I'll take one any time.
Sagllen at msn dot com

[gpidaho]

One two cavity mould .680 + all pins and handles. please. idahopops at hundred years link.net 83605

[ncmn]

ke4vpn at gmail dot net - 2 Cavity-.680 Diameter-All Pins-28073

[Rcmaveric]

We are getting close. Almost have enough

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[megasupermagnum]

We are getting close. Almost have enough

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Unless it's a Typo, it looks like we got bumped up from 15 to a 20 minimum. It's going to be a while.

[longbow]

I'm surprised more of the slug shooting crowd hasn't gotten in on this one. I haven't bought a mould in quite a while but this one has me excited! I wasn't going to pass this one up!

If the full bore version runs as well I'll likely splurge and get it too. I like the design.

I actually prefer the idea of full bore but a guy can't have enough options... wad slug and full bore pretty much covers it. If you want easy loading just dropping a slug in a wad is easy and also works for using factory rounds with shot dumped out... assuming the wad petals are reasonably close to fit. That might not give optimum accuracy but it is quick, easy and cheap and for those SHTF types an option they shouldn't be without so jump in and buy a couple of moulds you guys! The more the merrier! If this works like the original then with good wad fit and/or planned obturation it should be quite accurate.

Full bore is more likely (in my mind) to give best accuracy but requires custom wad columns of some type and lubing so a little more work.

Get them both and cover your bases I say!

I'm going to make a new nose form and HB pin for my full bore mould and see if I can duplicate the Buckbuster close enough then play a bit. I'd still like the Mihec full bore brass mould too though.

Longbow

[megasupermagnum]

I'm surprised more of the slug shooting crowd hasn't gotten in on this one. I haven't bought a mould in quite a while but this one has me excited! I wasn't going to pass this one up!

If the full bore version runs as well I'll likely splurge and get it too. I like the design.

I actually prefer the idea of full bore but a guy can't have enough options... wad slug and full bore pretty much covers it. If you want easy loading just dropping a slug in a wad is easy and also works for using factory rounds with shot dumped out... assuming the wad petals are reasonably close to fit. That might not give optimum accuracy but it is quick, easy and cheap and for those SHTF types an option they shouldn't be without so jump in and buy a couple of moulds you guys! The more the merrier! If this works like the original then with good wad fit and/or planned obturation it should be quite accurate.

Full bore is more likely (in my mind) to give best accuracy but requires custom wad columns of some type and lubing so a little more work.

Get them both and cover your bases I say!

I'm going to make a new nose form and HB pin for my full bore mould and see if I can duplicate the Buckbuster close enough then play a bit. I'd still like the Mihec full bore brass mould too though.

Longbow

I don't even know what to think. The design already had to be changed so that it could be casted rather than swaged. Not a huge deal. Then out of left field came this full bore version, now the guys out of the loop like newcastter are confused. Plus now we have a tumble lube wad slug. MP molds has made smooth bullets with the same lube groove cherry many times before. I don't understand why he cant make a smooth slug now. Nobody said anything about a full bore slug in the first place. It was supposed to be a BUCKBUSTER clone.

The idea of a full bore version is not a good one. It already exists! Accurate molds 73-770SU.

[bluejay75]

It shouldnt be too hard to close 8 more sign ups.

[longbow]

msm I am glad you started the discussion that turned into this group buy and I won't disagree that the idea of a Buckbuster clone was a great idea and I would have been happy with the smooth Buckbuster clone you suggested. No problem there at all. I would have been happy with that.

However, I am a smoothbore shooter and like the idea of a full bore version as well.

The Buckbuster should be a good full bore slug for smoothbore as well. The Accurate 73-770SU might work well for rifled gun but not so much for smoothbore.

The tumble lube grooves shouldn't detract from the wad slug and are a benefit for the full bore version.

I'd like both.

Again thanks for initiating this and I guess I have to say I'm sorry it deviated from your vision but I have to think the grooved wad slug will be just as good as a smooth version.

Just my opinion.

Longbow

[pipehand]

I have enough things to put in a 12 gauge wad at the moment. Will be watching for when this design goes full bore. A similar slug in 20 gauge would be great also.

[gpidaho]

I don't mind the idea of a full bore slug and as I powder coat my slugs I don't see the grooves as a problem. I would likely order the full bore version also but I just picked up the full bore paradox Russian slug mould with tail wads and seating tools and it works well for me with the wads or filled with hot glue over X12X and either brush wad or waxed fiber wads. Guess I'm feeling a little cash poor for both at the moment. Gp

[dyecocker1]

I have a lee 7/8 slug mould that I use in my Mossberg 930 smooth bore with a rifled choke tube. I like the fact this is made to fit in the polywads, my loading process right now includes several cardboard spacers in a polywad for height and is very tedious. I am not real experienced loading slugs, if I were to order a mould from this buy would the smaller slug work in my barrel? Or would I need a fullbore that no longer fits in a polywad?

[megasupermagnum]

If you fill the base with hot glue you do not need spacers under the slug in some loads. Often they do help though. Best accuracy is often found with a nitro card under the slug, and petals trimmed even with the shoulder. It does take work, but that's what it takes for optimal accuracy. While mossberg is known to be slightly larger, often running .732", these slugs are designed to bump up inside the bore for a perfect fit. They should work well for you. It's slower than loading shot, but if you only drop a nitro card in the wad, put the slug in the wad, and seat all at once through a wad guide, it goes plenty fast. The only thing that wish went faster was filling the bases with hot glue. If you use the thicker skirt base pin, and use a nitro card underneath, and stick to lighter loads, you may get away without it.

[longbow]

I like the wad slugs for ease of loading but wad slug or full bore if they are hollow base slugs I fill the base. Almost every unfilled slug I have recovered has a distorted skirt and/or nose from uneven bump up or skirt collapse.

Not only does the filler (glue or whatever) keep the skirt from collapsing (and probably helps with even bump up for soft slugs), it also keeps wads from getting jammed up into the HB cavity. It takes a bit of time but I do it.

Longbow

[dyecocker1]

I think using hot glue would be more difficult and more costly than the paper discs that I use now. I am not 100% worried about accuracy, I use them for fun day 3 gun on my own property so most the shots are sub 20 yards. I also forgot to mention I am roll crimping

[megasupermagnum]

I think using hot glue would be more difficult and more costly than the paper discs that I use now. I am not 100% worried about accuracy, I use them for fun day 3 gun on my own property so most the shots are sub 20 yards. I also forgot to mention I am roll crimping

In that case you can probably get away with anything. I don't want to talk you out of this mold, but a .678" round ball fits right in a shot cup. You don't have to roll crimp. Use the same load data as your 1 or 1 1/8 oz shot loads, and substitute the ball. No need for nitro cards or anything.

[bluejay75]

In that case you can probably get away with anything. I don't want to talk you out of this mold, but a .678" round ball fits right in a shot cup. You don't have to roll crimp. Use the same load data as your 1 or 1 1/8 oz shot loads, and substitute the ball. No need for nitro cards or anything.

What is realistic accuracy that I can expect from the roundball load from a smooth bore or rifle choked barrel.

[longbow]

Realistic round ball accuracy for me was 3" to 4" at 50 yards. Groups were not often tighter than 3" and not often much over 4", pretty consistent with good loads. Groups do open up much past 60 to maybe 70 yards with lots of fliers and large groups (generally) at 100 yards. That is from smoothbore.

That was using 0.662" RB's cloth patched into the shotcups like for muzzleloader and for 0.735" RB's naked on a hard card wad column.

I figured 0.678" would be perfect but as it turns out, not with the wads I have currently. They fit snuggly in the bore of my single shot using old Pacific Verelite wads but the current Winchester wads I have are a bit thin so fit is loose and accuracy not so good. Might do better in my tighter bored Mossberg but yet to be tested.

The 0.735" RB is over bore diameter so swages to fit and shoots well. The cloth patched 0.662" RB is also a good fit and shoots well, plus being patched you can change cloth thickness to get correct fit. That 0.678" RB is too big to cloth patch but maybe one wrap of paper would do it.

Ajay has posted many photos of slug and round ball in wad combinations and listed diameters. Of course bore diameter comes into it too and my single shot has a fat bore. I'll take that info when I go to Edmonton for Thanksgiving so I can buy some appropriate wads... hopefully! There is nothing available locally.

I sent some 0.678" RB's to Hogtamer to try out in his rifled gun and while they did okay accuracy was not great. Again, fit may play a part there. Not sure what his fit to bore was like and wad selection may make a difference too in plastic hardness, etc.

Anyway, RB's are easy to cast and shoot pretty well with the right load.

Longbow

[megasupermagnum]

I only list .678" as you can buy the mold right from MP molds website. I only use a full bore balls, .735" for the 12 gauge, and .780" for the 10 gauge. Shooting under 20 yards is not demanding, it's hard to imagine something not being accurate enough. With good loads 3"-4" is standard for me at 50 yards with a smooth bore. I routinely get groups about around 2" at 50 yards from a rifled barrel, and in the 5"-8" range at 100 yards. Accuracy really falls off past 60ish yards in a smooth bore. Even if you skip every trick in the book, (nitro cards, cutting wad petals, etc.) and just dump a round ball in a plastic shot cup, I would think you should at least be able to do 3" at 25 yards, and probably better.

[newcastter]

Could one of you help me decide whether the .678 or .680 would better suit my barrel? It’s a Remington 870 Rifled Barrel. Or do I need to slug the barrel?

[megasupermagnum]

Could one of you help me decide whether the .678 or .680 would better suit my barrel? It’s a Remington 870 Rifled Barrel. Or do I need to slug the barrel?

Honestly it makes little difference. There is more than a .002" difference between wad brands, so you may find the wad/slug combo that fits best. Also if you use a softer lead, they will bump up to size. .681" is what the original Buckbuster slug was, but I'm sure there is little noticeable difference with .678". Due to the small bearing surface, you can get away with a larger round ball, although the Lee .690" is a touch too big. Remington bores usually run around .729", although they can vary quite a bit.

[dyecocker1]

Double post, sorry

[dsh1106]

Did I miss the price some where?

Scott

[bluejay75]

Did I miss the price some where?

Scott

110 Euro

[SuperBlazingSabots]

Greetings, John it was good hearing from you after a long time, please keep in mind some wads are no longer available and stick with the name brand wads, Forget the claybuster wads as they too are crap ! !
Here is the chart with different RB and slug in wad:
https://i.imgur.com/CtlOdHK.jpg
Try to order it with at least two or three hollow base pins so you can alter the weight too with your own 2 cents by putting it in a drill press.
https://i.imgur.com/FbCcfyy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/1dsUfAF.jpg

Best regards,
Ajay K. Madan
Super Blazing Sabots

[longbow]

You are going to sign up for this aren't you Ajay? I don't see your name on the list! Everyone needs one of these whether they shoot slugs or not. Its a Mihec brass mould... sometimes referred to as man jewelry (except you don't wear them of course).

C'mon... splurge! Surely you still have at least one 12 ga. to feed.

Longbow

[glockky]

twgrubb3 at gmail dot com. 2 cavity .680” all pins plus handles 41143

[bluejay75]

Getting close gents...

[crash87]

I'm in,
ktlachac at aol dot com (1)–2 Cavity mold-.678 Diameter-All Pins- + handles 54220
Crash87

[stripercrazy]

I'd like to get in on this......all pins ,2 cavity .680............... stripercrazy@yahoo dot com 02916

[quasi]

I'd like to get in on this......all pins ,2 cavity .680 c kulyk at telus dot net T 2 K 1 E 6

[bluejay75]

Updated. Going to ask Mihec if we are going to run at 15 or wait for 20. By any measure we have enough to order the cherry.

[megasupermagnum]

I hope this isn't common knowledge, but can Mihec make these molds Master Caster compatible?

[megasupermagnum]

I hope this isn't common knowledge, but can Mihec make these molds Master Caster compatible?

Somebody may be interested if this can be made for a Master Caster.

[quasi]

a one off custom mould?

[megasupermagnum]

a one off custom mould?

I was under the impression it was just a different sprue plate, and some linkage for the base pin. I have no idea if MP has ever offered such a conversion.

[Keith]

Can I get in on this in Australia, or is it too late. Just discovered this thread.
Keith

[megasupermagnum]

Can I get in on this in Australia, or is it too late. Just discovered this thread.
Keith

We are still waiting. It seems MP is moving rather slow with molds. Nothing has been made in what looks like 3 months.

[megasupermagnum]

As strange as this sounds, I'd like to change my mold to a .678" diameter please.

[45workhorse]

One mold if not to late. shasselback at hamptoncountysc dot org. all pins, two cavity .680 29944

[megasupermagnum]

Can I get in on this in Australia, or is it too late. Just discovered this thread.
Keith

You will need to post as above with disguised email, and mold details.

[djryan13]

Somebody may be interested if this can be made for a Master Caster.


He and Accurate can’t make anything this big for master caster. I have begged both... Sigh...

[djryan13]

So the same cherry can be used for the Full Bore slug. Should be negligible difference in a wad.

Is there a full bore option available?

[megasupermagnum]

Is there a full bore option available?

Not yet, but it's next on the list. It seems the group buys have come to a standstill for some reason.

[megasupermagnum]

As strange as this sounds, I'd like to change my mold to a .678" diameter please.

Maybe I missed it, but is the tolerance +.002" or even +/- .001"? If it is positive tolerance, I would like to change mine to .678". If it is even, I would like to keep it .680".

[djryan13]

Not yet, but it's next on the list. It seems the group buys have come to a standstill for some reason.

Stock market crash making people feel poor. I will take full bore when it’s posted.

[quasi]

We are still waiting. It seems MP is moving rather slow with molds. Nothing has been made in what looks like 3 months.

not true

[megasupermagnum]

not true

Other than a 45-70 bullet back around Halloween, what else has MP made? They seem to have gone off the radar. A 45 ACP mold I've been on the list for has been in "last call" since September 9th... 6 months ago.

[quasi]

Other than a 45-70 bullet back around Halloween, what else has MP made? They seem to have gone off the radar. A 45 ACP mold I've been on the list for has been in "last call" since September 9th... 6 months ago.

I got a 300 blackout hp about 6 weeks ago.

[megasupermagnum]

I got a 300 blackout hp about 6 weeks ago.

Are you kidding me? The one that closed back on December 2018? That's not right, if they can't keep up, quit taking orders.

[quasi]

if you need faster service, there are other makers of custom moulds.

[davidh0302]

dh03021991 at gmail dot com–2 Cavity-.680 Diameter-All Pins

[bluejay75]

This one is almost ready gents. I’m closing it today.

The one cherry cuts both diameters. Will run that buy as soon as this one moves to closed.

[megasupermagnum]

This one is almost ready gents. I’m closing it today.

The one cherry cuts both diameters. Will run that buy as soon as this one moves to closed.

So what is the spec on this. Is the tolerance even + or - .001", or is it positive + .002"?

[bluejay75]

This one is ready to closed.

[megasupermagnum]

This one is ready to closed.

So what is the tolerance on these?

[longbow]

bluejay75:

Just a reminder... I'd like at least one set of extra 0.080" skirt pins for sure. If they aren't stupidly expensive I'll get 2 sets.

That's for #2 on the list ~ thesmiths at telus dot net

Thanks,
Longbow

[megasupermagnum]

Please remove me from this buy.

[45workhorse]

Would still like one.
See post#58

[gpidaho]

I'm beginning to lose interest here. There are other molds available without a two year wait. If this isn't set for delivery in the next thirty days, please take me of this list. Gp

[bluejay75]

Don’t. Miha already posted this mold in Facebook. Waiting on pins. That’s the hold up on all runs.

[Lakehouse2012]

Hey Guys, I'm helping Miha out by putting a list together of the GB's stuck in closed, but havent been delivered. I'm assuming this is one of those that have not been delivered, correct?

Thanks,

Lakehouse2012

[longbow]

I'd say so. I haven't received any notification that the moulds are complete and ready for payment. So certainly mine hasn't been delivered.

Again, I'd like multiple HB pins. I didn't receive any info that this would or could be done.

Will there be options when we receive our notification for payment?

Longbow

[bluejay75]

I know he has the cherry for this one but no pins.

[gpidaho]

I've given this way past my last post. This is BS. I'm out. Gp

[Petander]

Did this ever happen?

[bluejay75]

Yes. It’s in the pipeline. Will contact for schedule.

[Petander]

Yes. It’s in the pipeline. Will contact for schedule.

Can I still jump in,please? If so,thank you very much.

petander (at) gmail dottie com - 2 cavity .680 plus handles

[quasi]

great news

[Rcmaveric]

Forgot about this in all honesty.

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[pipehand]

I check here regularly to see what ever happened about the full bore version. Hopefully the pin supplier will step up.

[Petander]

Thanks Longbow and Bluejay!

[longbow]

Just to clarify Petander's post, my circumstances have changed so I decided to drop out of the group buy if someone could replace me and coincidentally Petander was looking to join the group buy.

Not sure if he could have gotten in anyway after it closed but I didn't want numbers to drop if I dropped out so this worked out well.

bluejay75 made this happen and put Petander in my spot. So thank you bluejay75! And thank you Petander!

I would have really liked this mould but I don't need it and have limited funds and other priorities I have to budget for now that I am retired. Plus I can make a smooth sided clone in single cavity... not nearly as nice as a Mihec mould but functional.

Anyway, this worked out well for Petander and me.

Longbow

[bluejay75]

Since these are being slow to cut. I asked that this one be moved back to active.

[quasi]

Please change my email. I am #14

Change to Lrackulyk. At gmail dot. Com

[megasupermagnum]

What the heck is going on here? MP has 53 Lyman 525's in stock, and 57 Lyman 575 full bore in stock. Clearly pins are being made. He is out of excuses. Is this going to be made or not? It's been over 3 dang years!

[Rcmaveric]

What the heck is going on here? MP has 53 Lyman 525's in stock, and 57 Lyman 575 full bore in stock. Clearly pins are being made. He is out of excuses. Is this going to be made or not? It's been over 3 dang years!Funny you mention that. I keep forgetting i am apart of this. Every time some post it reminds me.

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[megasupermagnum]

@bluejay75, is this happening or what?

[bluejay75]

Its going to happen. Hes working down his backlogs and cutting molds based on the pins he had on hand. We are in the queue.

[WiederladerTV]

Still possible to jump in?
I'll would like to get one in .678 diameter with all pins. anfrage @ wiederlader.tv

[Rcmaveric]

Lol, 2 and half years. We need to keep this active, so I won't keep forgetting I am a part of it. It's also been so long that my email no longer works. I need to change my email from rcmaveric @ cox.net to rcmaveric112 @ gmail.com .

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[glockky]

Plz remove me from this one. I’ve already came up with a different plan

[pipehand]

Still wanting the .730" fullbore version.