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brstevns
08-16-2019, 11:47 AM
Does anyone have a powder chart for the Lee Red Dippers, been searching the web without much luck.
Maybe someone could email me a copy of it or give me a web site?

Camper64
08-16-2019, 11:53 AM
Give this link a try.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?258428-LEE-Dippers-Old-(Black-or-Red)-powder-dippers-vs-New-(Yellow)-powder-dippers&highlight=Red+Dippers

brstevns
08-16-2019, 05:13 PM
Thanks but at one time I found a powder chart for the old red dippers on the web but lost it. was hopping someone might have this.

onelight
08-16-2019, 05:27 PM
246816I found this it looks like there may be a chart on the box my screens to small to see it.

brstevns
08-16-2019, 06:05 PM
246816I found this it looks like there may be a chart on the box my screens to small to see it.

That is the set I have.

mdi
08-16-2019, 07:20 PM
FWIW; a good place for Lee dipper info... http://www.lee-loader.com/viewforum.php?f=19

onelight
08-16-2019, 08:02 PM
Do the red ones not have the Size on the handle ?

brstevns
08-16-2019, 08:47 PM
Red measure by volume yellow by CC

abunaitoo
08-16-2019, 09:16 PM
I have a RED set. Dated 1966
The dips are numbered.020, 039, 052, 065, 069, 108, 129, 141, 167, 190, 205, 230, 258.
It doesn't say what the grains are.
It has the sliding chart as part of the box.
IMR 4198
020-4.1
039-8.1
025-10.8
065-13.5
069-1403
108-22.5
129-27.0
141-29.0
167-34.5
190-39.5
205-42.5
230-47.5
258-53.5

Uncle Jimbo
08-16-2019, 09:20 PM
Here is this chart, don't know if this is what you are looking for or not.
https://leeprecision.com/cgi-data/instruct/Dippers.pdf

Old School Big Bore
08-17-2019, 01:22 AM
I have both sets; the numbers on the red ones are decimal fractions of a cubic inch and the yellow ones are marked in cubic centimeters. There are so many lines of data on both sides of the cards that it would take more pictures than anyone would want to fool with. If you don't have the card holder to do the slide-rule act, you can't read the data. Someone at some data site compiled (I think) both cards into a regular matrix chart. I'll see if I can find it but it'll be a couple of days before I can do that.
Ed <><

brstevns
08-17-2019, 10:57 AM
I have both sets; the numbers on the red ones are decimal fractions of a cubic inch and the yellow ones are marked in cubic centimeters. There are so many lines of data on both sides of the cards that it would take more pictures than anyone would want to fool with. If you don't have the card holder to do the slide-rule act, you can't read the data. Someone at some data site compiled (I think) both cards into a regular matrix chart. I'll see if I can find it but it'll be a couple of days before I can do that.
Ed <><

Thanks
Iwill keep looking

brstevns
08-17-2019, 10:58 AM
Here is this chart, don't know if this is what you are looking for or not.
https://leeprecision.com/cgi-data/instruct/Dippers.pdf

That is the chart for yellow dippers.

onelight
08-17-2019, 04:25 PM
You could make a cheat sheet converting the cubic inch #s to ccs and and use the newer Lee data sheets.
I have a conversion app on my phone that does it quick and easy .

tdoor4570
08-18-2019, 09:44 AM
Thanks
Iwill keep looking

br I have a red set, do you need a copy of the chart in the top of the box? If so PM me your mailing address and I will send you a copy tdoor4570

str8wal
08-18-2019, 09:24 PM
Red measure by volume yellow by CC

CC is not a measure of volume?

onelight
08-18-2019, 11:11 PM
I have a RED set. Dated 1966
The dips are numbered.020, 039, 052, 065, 069, 108, 129, 141, 167, 190, 205, 230, 258.
It doesn't say what the grains are.
It has the sliding chart as part of the box.
IMR 4198
020-4.1
039-8.1
025-10.8
065-13.5
069-1403
108-22.5
129-27.0
141-29.0
167-34.5
190-39.5
205-42.5
230-47.5
258-53.5

This gives you what you need to start the 020-4.1 = 0.32 -4.0 grain on the Lee vmd chart.
I would not use this type data without scale to check actual weight of a few throws .

Tom Myers
08-19-2019, 08:55 AM
abunaitoo,

You might want to edit your list. It appears that two digits may have been transposed.

The third item down [ 025-10.8 ] should read [052-10.8]



I have a RED set. Dated 1966
The dips are numbered.020, 039, 052, 065, 069, 108, 129, 141, 167, 190, 205, 230, 258.
It doesn't say what the grains are.
It has the sliding chart as part of the box.
IMR 4198
020-4.1
039-8.1
025-10.8
065-13.5
069-1403
108-22.5
129-27.0
141-29.0
167-34.5
190-39.5
205-42.5
230-47.5
258-53.5

EDG
08-19-2019, 12:41 PM
From what I remember the black dippers and the red dippers are the same and have the same volumetric designators on the handles.

ulav8r
08-19-2019, 10:23 PM
CC is not a measure of volume?

Red/Black = volume in cubic inches, Yellow = volume in cubic centimeters

alamogunr
08-19-2019, 11:36 PM
I have a chart that I saved several years ago that compares both old and new dippers by their volume in cc. I have no idea how to post it. I have tried attaching the document to an email to a 2nd email address and although it shows an attachment, it won't open. I can't copy it to a post either.

For example: It shows NEW DIPPER 1.6 as 1.6cc and the next size up OLD DIPPER #108 as 1.7698cc. From that you could calculate if you had one slide chart or the other. You would still have to confirm by weighing.

I'm not in the shop but IIRC, NEW DIPPERS are yellow, and OLD DIPPERS are either red or black. I can't remember which old dippers I have.

Getting old is preferred to the alternative but it sure crimps my usefulness when I'm trying to be a help.

Scoutdog99
08-21-2019, 03:10 PM
Here's a chart I use.

247051

alamogunr
08-21-2019, 04:05 PM
Here's a chart I use.

247051

That is the chart I was referring to in Post #21. I am not computer literate enough to get it to post.

BamaNapper
08-21-2019, 05:35 PM
I have one of the old red sets. The box does have what might be called a chart. It's a sliding piece of posterboard that moves past a window in the flap the guy is holding in the earlier pic. The list of measures is printed on the flap, and a table is printed on the slider with the powder type along the top. You move the slider until your powder of choice appears in the top of the window, then in the window is how many grains of that type of powder would be in each measure. I'm thinking my set is from the late 70's, so I'm not too trusting of the data on that slider thingie. Of course, the newer powders on the market aren't listed on it. If you would like a copy of what's on the slider I would be happy to run it across the scanner. Just let me know.

I actually trusted the chart 40 yrs ago when I sat in the barracks with a Lee handloader and a wooden mallet putting together enough 44 mag ammo for a day's shooting. Today I trust my scale. Great memories.