Fullfilled a bucket list item. New 1886/71 in 45-70

[Gunnut 45/454]

Though its not a real Win 1886 I now own a beautiful Pedersoli 1886/71 in 45-70! A true bigbore!:bigsmyl2: Real enough for me! Always had a love for lever guns an this was one I've want for along time. Got the bug and went to Cabelas a couple weeks ago! They had a couple of actual Miroko Wins in 45-70 but $1800 was to steep for me! As it was I traded in a Yugo 59/66 to drop the price on the Pedersoli down to about $700. That made it worth it! Add in reloading dies 3 boxes of ammo for brass an bullet die form Lee it still cost me about $950!:shock: But by god I have my 1886 an Im lovin it! :bigsmyl2:

[cwlongshot]

Great gun! Love grail guns!!

Congratulations!

CW

[RickinTN]

Congratulations! I hope you enjoy it. Which of the Lee molds did you get? I have a couple of the Miroku/Browning 1886's and enjoy them on occasion. The crescent buttplate sure lets you know it's there with anything above gentle loads. Then again, it's a 45-70, no need for anything but gentle.
Rick

[MrWolf]

Good for you. Congrats

[Sig556r]

Nice one...

[Outpost75]

Nice one. Enjoy.

[fordwannabe]

Now ain’t that a Great feeling. I was fortunate enough to get an original 1886 now in 45/70 though it left the factory as a 40-65. The best part for me my WIFE talked me into it after I had said no.
Enjoy your prize. I was shooting a 405 grain with 10 grains of Unique on Sunday and it vaporized full coke bottles.

[pietro]

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Dreams CAN come true ! :D

Congrats !

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[Gunnut 45/454]

RickinTN
Went with the 340 gr PB mold. At $2 a round I knew right off the bat this was a reloading endeavor. I would love to get a bunch of the Win 300gr JHP/JSPs as it loves shooting the SuperX 300 gr JHP's . But no one seems to have them in stock or available! So for now I'm running the cast loads. Settle on 42gr of IMR3031 at 1580 fps a mid load that's not to abusive. It should be a good deer load out to 200 as well!

[robg]

Over here you have to reload for a 45-70 .factory £180 for a100 .my Loads £20 per 100 .who wants jacket bullets in a 45-70?

[RickinTN]

That should be a good bullet. I have the mold also. It fits my Marlin very well, engraving slightly on the nose. In my Miroku/Brownings it's too tight a fit on the nose so a no-go. It should work well with about 12 grains Unique also but I haven't had the opportunity to try it.
Hope you enjoy your rifle,
Rick

[Gunnut 45/454]

robg

I agree I shoot mostly cast in everything ! But those Win 300 jhp's shoot very good in my 1886! And they should be deadly on muley's or anything else I need to shoot.


RickinTN

Yep just waiting on my Bolt mount Peep site. From Pedersoli . As my old eyes don't do buck horns well past 100 yards anymore! But in side 100 yards even off hand anything still is in big trouble!

[Kev18]

Must be a nice '86 week for everyone. I finally got my Vernier tang sight that iv'e wanted forever! I think my rifle is finally complete after a few years. Mine is an original, do you have pictures of yours? [smilie=w:
https://i.imgur.com/HPE5Rai.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/H204F6u.jpg

[Gunnut 45/454]

Here is a pic

So Kevin is yours a 3 shot mag? Don't see any mag tube on it? Mine is a short 5 shot or half mag tube. What year is yours? it's a beauty!

[Kev18]

Here is a pic

So Kevin is yours a 3 shot mag? Don't see any mag tube on it? Mine is a short 5 shot or half mag tube. What year is yours? it's a beauty!

Yup, three shot button mag, Full octagon barrel. 40-82WCF. Made in 1888-89. They are great guns. Gets the job done for sure!

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Kev18
Now that's an odd ball cartridge! But I'm sure it will get the job done. As my moniker says I'm a 45 caliber guy! Hence the going with 45-70! More then enough gun for anything I'd want to hunt and then some! So you necking down 45-90 cases?

[Bad Ass Wallace]

I bought a Pedersoli "Sporting Rifle" in 45/70 as a retirement present to myself after 46 years of working. 26" barrel with full magazine and shotgun butt. Compliments my Pedersoli 38/55 Hiwall and 44/40 Lightning pump.

May I live long enough to wear them out!

https://i.imgur.com/chnKiwx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Pv5TKjU.jpg

[Kev18]

Kev18
Now that's an odd ball cartridge! But I'm sure it will get the job done. As my moniker says I'm a 45 caliber guy! Hence the going with 45-70! More then enough gun for anything I'd want to hunt and then some! So you necking down 45-90 cases?

The cases are basically necked down 45-90, with alittle off the top. At first I used to buy the boxes on Buffalo arms and at the end I ordered three on GAD customs. Im Canadian so with exchange rates and border fees it was about 200$ a box... for 20 rounds. You can Imagine that I have around 6-8 boxes, the cost.... So I knew I had to reload. I haven't had to make more brass. I have been shooting the same brass batch for 3-4 years now with no issues. I still have over 100 new cartridges that have never been touched. I pretty mouch own everything that relates to the cartridge. Moulds, reloading tools, dies... Also alot relating to the 1886 itself.

260-310 grain bullet will knock down anything il ever see during my life time!

[Kev18]

[QUOTE=Bad *** Wallace;4708353]I bought a Pedersoli "Sporting Rifle" in 45/70 as a retirement present to myself after 46 years of working. 26" barrel with full magazine and shotgun butt. Compliments my Pedersoli 38/55 Hiwall and 44/40 Lightning pump.

May I live long enough to wear them out!


Those will be in great shape for generations to come. I really want an original High-Wall! Iv'e seen a few but all small bores. I want a big bore...

[cwlongshot]

Super nice guys!!!

[Drm50]

I have had a eye out for a nice 1886 in 45/70 for 50 yrs. I've owned several in 33 Win but never had the heart to have them rebarreled to 45/70. Same with 71s owned a few and never could get around to having one done.
I did have a Marlin 45/90 but terrible bore and not strong enough for 45/70 loads that I wanted to shoot. Around 15yrs ago I was at an auction and their was a late model 1886 Sporting Rifle in 45/70 on the block. I didn't bid on any other guns, waiting for it to come up. It was in original box unfired with hang tags and docs from a HWD store in Kansas. I was prepared to go my whole nut and when bidding started my paddle caught fire it went for over $6K. I thought that was ridiculous but there was a binder with gun that had documented it from factory on to original purchaser, who was just a common citizen.

[Kev18]

I have had a eye out for a nice 1886 in 45/70 for 50 yrs. I've owned several in 33 Win but never had the heart to have them rebarreled to 45/70. Same with 71s owned a few and never could get around to having one done.
I did have a Marlin 45/90 but terrible bore and not strong enough for 45/70 loads that I wanted to shoot. Around 15yrs ago I was at an auction and their was a late model 1886 Sporting Rifle in 45/70 on the block. I didn't bid on any other guns, waiting for it to come up. It was in original box unfired with hang tags and docs from a HWD store in Kansas. I was prepared to go my whole nut and when bidding started my paddle caught fire it went for over $6K. I thought that was ridiculous but there was a binder with gun that had documented it from factory on to original purchaser, who was just a common citizen.

Sometimes its just not worth it. You'll get lucky one day! I walked in a gun shop and bought mine for 250$... The owner said the employee paid to much for it. It was a "project gun". Sounds good to me.

[osteodoc08]

I bought a Pedersoli "Sporting Rifle" in 45/70 as a retirement present to myself after 46 years of working. 26" barrel with full magazine and shotgun butt. Compliments my Pedersoli 38/55 Hiwall and 44/40 Lightning pump.

May I live long enough to wear them out!

https://i.imgur.com/chnKiwx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Pv5TKjU.jpg

Beautiful rifle.

[missionary5155]

Good morning
Pedersoli does make a nice rifle ! Have a couple Rollers we are right happy with.
Mike in LLama Land

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Kevin18
I agree been a reloader for years! And I've never seen 45-70 brass laying around to pick up an reuse! So I knew I had to buy some brass to have for reloading. Figured I'd just buy a few boxes 4 for about $200 have fun shooting some and keep the rest for hunting with. An 20 empties should reload many times!At $2 plus for factory rounds I can reload them for less then $.50.

[Kev18]

If you dont reload super high pressure stuff. They will last a long time. Maybe even annealing the case mouths here and there... Its the high pressure that thins them out. I don't have that issue. I don't go over 1500 fps. Some would say that is the reason to get modern rifles. They load them up close to 3000 fps. I dont see the reason to. Plenty tests have been made and fat and slow gets the job done. It has alot more penetration. Fast explodes on impact. And doesn't go very deep..

[Gunnut 45/454]

Kev18
Yep runin mid pressure loads is the key to long case life. I have yet to trim any of the cases ! Although the Rem cases have actually gotten shorter? Still within spec but definitely shorter!

[Gunnut 45/454]

The more I shot this 1886 the more I love it. Really kicking myself in the **** for not getting one sooner. Truly a work of art. A mans lever gun . Like my Win 94 an Rossi 92 just feels so right in my hands!

[Kev18]

Glad your're enjoying it. I went out with my 1873 this weekend :) Buckhorn sights are pretty hard to see...
https://i.imgur.com/2rEfcFZ.jpg

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Kev18
Just got the bolt mounted Creedmoore ! And finally got it installed- loved the last step- should be done by a qualified Gunsmith?:shock: It was a PITA! But it's on now I just need to go sight it in. Now a question for you Creedmoore guys did you have a problem with glare on the bottom of the eye aperture? I do . Maybe its just the lighting in my home haven't had it outside yet. If you do what was your cure. I've shot peeps on ARs for years and never had this problem.

[Kev18]

Kev18
Just got the bolt mounted Creedmoore ! And finally got it installed- loved the last step- should be done by a qualified Gunsmith?:shock: It was a PITA! But it's on now I just need to go sight it in. Now a question for you Creedmoore guys did you have a problem with glare on the bottom of the eye aperture? I do . Maybe its just the lighting in my home haven't had it outside yet. If you do what was your cure. I've shot peeps on ARs for years and never had this problem.

Some sights have different issues. It might also be your eyes. Some people see a hair-like object through the peep hole but there isnt anything there. They say a cure is to make the hole bigger.
Maybe if you put something in the hole to stop reflecting light, it will work. Like a Sharpie or matte paint.

[Gunnut 45/454]

Kev18
I got out to sight it in ! Must have been the lighting in my house as I didn't have the problem while shooting. All is good much better then the Buckhorns! Now just need to work on my load to get it dialed in at distance. Right now I'm comfortable out to 125 yards with my load need to see if it is accurate to 200 yards.

[Kev18]

Kev18
I got out to sight it in ! Must have been the lighting in my house as I didn't have the problem while shooting. All is good much better then the Buckhorns! Now just need to work on my load to get it dialed in at distance. Right now I'm comfortable out to 125 yards with my load need to see if it is accurate to 200 yards.

Will you be shooting long range targets or hunting?

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Kev18
I will be using it for Muley hunt this year. So a 200 yard shot is possible! I do have some 300 gr Wins to allow further shots but I'd really like to use my cast load.

[Kev18]

Kev18
I will be using it for Muley hunt this year. So a 200 yard shot is possible! I do have some 300 gr Wins to allow further shots but I'd really like to use my cast load.

200 yards with heavy cast is possible. Just make sure to practice and know your rifle.

[Gunnut 45/454]

Kev18
Yep for sure! Right now getting about 2.5 inch groups at 100 yards with my cast load. So still with in 4" at 125 yards! So until I get better 125 yards or closer or no shot!