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GregLaROCHE
08-10-2019, 04:14 AM
Would someone explain why you should wash patch material and how best to do it.
Thanks

indian joe
08-10-2019, 06:33 AM
Would someone explain why you should wash patch material and how best to do it.
Thanks

storebought its got gunk in it they call "size" - somebody said starch but thats bein way too kind - the size is to make the fabric appear better finished than it really is and also so it handles better -- I just chuck mine in the washing machine for a long cycle with some ordinary detergent - hang it outside to dry - iron it and fold over - iron again and fold etc till you have a wad 8 or 16 layers deep.

Gtek
08-10-2019, 11:20 AM
I ran mine (WalMart red and blue) through twice with jeans and work uniforms then dryer. Then outcome would be with my description softened and fluffed, then your decision to strip, patch, etc..

pietro
08-10-2019, 12:32 PM
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I would suggest washing the large section of ticking (patch material) BEFORE cutting into strips and/or patches. . :D

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dave951
08-11-2019, 09:18 AM
It gets rid of the sizing and any other extraneous stuff the manufacturer puts on the material to make it feel good to the purchaser. Just wash it with regular detergent a couple times and dry as normal.

KCSO
08-11-2019, 11:18 AM
I throw it in the laundry for a couple of washes and tumble dry. The sizing makes the ticking too stiff to make a good patch. The best bet is to wait till the pillow refurb guys come to town and get the old ticking from the take offs. I did this years ago and got enough free ticking to patch my guns for the next 50 years.

indian joe
08-11-2019, 06:27 PM
I throw it in the laundry for a couple of washes and tumble dry. The sizing makes the ticking too stiff to make a good patch. The best bet is to wait till the pillow refurb guys come to town and get the old ticking from the take offs. I did this years ago and got enough free ticking to patch my guns for the next 50 years.

We all different !
I wont use recycled material for patches - maybe its our climate (lots and lots of sunlight) and the fact most laundry is still line dried outside but second hand cotton material here looses its strength to the point it tears just way too easily - I can rip a pair of worn jeans just pulling with the thumb and pointer finger of each hand - and as well the wear points are variable thickness. Nope ! I pay the money for new stuff.

GregLaROCHE
08-12-2019, 05:41 AM
Thanks for the info!

charlie b
08-12-2019, 11:53 PM
FWIW, sizing serves an important function in material. The sizing makes the thread not stretch as much, so weaving and sewing can be done with greater precision. When I sew with cloth that has been washed I will sometimes use spray starch to stiffen it up prior to cutting. Then wash the finished product before use.

To me sizing makes the cloth feel cheap, not more expensive.

And, yes, I would wash any patch material before cutting the patches.

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Geezer in NH
08-14-2019, 02:49 PM
I wash my patch in an automatic washer on whites using hot water. 2 cycles and then dry in the dryer again on whites I do not use any soaps just the water so it is washed and rinsed in plain water 4 times!

oconeedan
08-15-2019, 04:15 PM
Old denim jeans work well. They've been washed a few hundred times. :bigsmyl2:

bigted
08-17-2019, 09:20 PM
My take on the why of washing first ...

After washing lord only knows what out of the cloth with good detergent, dry it in a hot dryer ... hotter the better.

The manufacturers crud they put into new material can not be good for barrel nor in yer mouth if spit patch's are used, then after good n clean ... that hot dryer will shrink the threads good and tight together making those patch's good and tight and strong so burn thru is less of a chance as well as making them absorb spit or lube better.

indian joe
08-18-2019, 08:09 AM
My take on the why of washing first ...

After washing lord only knows what out of the cloth with good detergent, dry it in a hot dryer ... hotter the better.

The manufacturers crud they put into new material can not be good for barrel nor in yer mouth if spit patch's are used, then after good n clean ... that hot dryer will shrink the threads good and tight together making those patch's good and tight and strong so burn thru is less of a chance as well as making them absorb spit or lube better.

Never thought about the heat toughening the patch material - but was doing it by accident - I always ironed mine with the temperature setting way up high - ironed and folded over till I had a neat wad of cloth ironed out and 8 or 16 layers thick - made cutting with a wad punch easy and quick.

bigted
08-18-2019, 08:37 AM
Joe, the ironing into several layers then punching them out is a grand idea.

indian joe
08-18-2019, 06:59 PM
Joe, the ironing into several layers then punching them out is a grand idea.

There's a solid hardwood block lives on the concrete 6 feet from my back door, a two pound blacksmith hammer and a good sharp wad punch - I can cut enough wads in a few minutes to keep me shooting for months - always lookin for easy ways is me.

Hanshi
08-19-2019, 04:40 PM
All patch material should be washed prior to patch cutting/use. Washing makes the weave tighter as well.

triggerhappy243
11-25-2019, 05:42 AM
came across this thread (no pun intended) tryin to find out what happened with frontiermuzzleloading.

I am curious to know who uses denim (AKA blue jeans) as patch material for patch and ball. And what are your thoughts? Not looking to change.............. I use the blue stripe pillow ticking.

LAGS
11-25-2019, 07:32 AM
I am currently using Blue Jean material in my .61 Renagade with a .600 Lee Round ball.
The material is thicker than the Blue Stripe Pillow Ticking.
But my rifle is Deep Grooved so it fits right but tight.
But it also seals better and I don't have to use an over powder wad.
I have tons of old Blue Jeans from work since I recently retired.
Some are worn more on the upper thigh.
The groove diameter of my barrel is about .640 with the deep Rifling and slow twist.
I was using Blue Stripe ticking loaded over a 20 ga.
Felt shotgun wad and it sealed great , but was one more step in the loading process.
That gives me a selection of thickness to try.
The unworn lower leg section is about .025" thick.
And the thigh sections are between .018 and .020

RU shooter
11-25-2019, 08:50 AM
Washing also takes that nasty taste out of it when your using spit patch ! Lol

pietro
11-25-2019, 12:29 PM
Washing also takes that nasty taste out of it when your using spit patch ! Lol


Especially if the dude that wore the blue jeans failed to launder them...…… :D

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waksupi
11-25-2019, 01:32 PM
Being rather frugal (read CHEAP), I have some rendezvous shirts made from ticking. I wear them until they are badly stained or otherwise damaged, then use them for patches. If I use yard goods, I usually wash them three times.

oldracer
11-25-2019, 03:01 PM
Same here, I usually wash the material 2 to 3 times and do not add anything except laundry soap. I set our washer to "Heavy duty and set spin to highest".
John

LAGS
11-25-2019, 04:46 PM
I prefer one wash With Soap.
Then one full wash with No Soap.
But that might depend on how well your machine does on the rinse cycle.
I just like to make sure a the soap is out.
I also made a Solar Clothes Dryer to hang my fabric outside , rather than Cooking it in a dryer.
But a dryer does make it more pliable after tumbling.
But it all depends on your fabric and your personal preference.
( The weather Too )
But in Arizona , not much rain or Humidity , plus no snow here in the Phoenix area.

triggerhappy243
11-29-2019, 05:38 AM
Being rather frugal (read CHEAP), I have some rendezvous shirts made from ticking. I wear them until they are badly stained or otherwise damaged, then use them for patches. If I use yard goods, I usually wash them three times.

waksupi, if you do not mind, could you post a picture of your ticking shirt (you wearing it)? I want to start going to rondy's and they all require period correct garb.

waksupi
11-29-2019, 02:18 PM
waksupi, if you do not mind, could you post a picture of your ticking shirt (you wearing it)? I want to start going to rondy's and they all require period correct garb.

I don't know if I have a picture of me wearing one. Plenty of patterns available from various vendors. This is pretty much what I have.

https://www.crazycrow.com/mountain-man-clothing-patterns/mountain-mans-workshirt-pattern

triggerhappy243
11-29-2019, 04:26 PM
ok, thank you this is a good start.

Eddie Southgate
11-29-2019, 06:23 PM
I have washed and not washed and truth told I can tell no difference in how my guns shoot either way . I no longer worry about washing cloth for patching .