What causes my cylinder stop to stay up?

[Kev18]

I bought an original Remington 1858 navy and since yesterday the cylinder stop stays up under spring tension? What can cause this? What do the little tangs on the stop make contact with? It was working fine two days ago.

Thats the part im talking about.

https://www.google.ca/search?q=1858+cylinder+stop&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=8_GNu9dCqmICaM%253A%252CNqqEte2CIcl_VM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRwxjUpcPPfoAO9_sWL8tor7HlG4A&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiLpLKqwfHjAhUDSN8KHUmxAxYQ9QEwAnoECAkQB g#imgrc=8_GNu9dCqmICaM:

[root]

Probably got a chunk of cap in it.

I remember you mentioning you had fired it.

BP revolvers are known for getting hung up once dirty.

They do make a gate to prevent caps from falling into the guts but each one is a custom fit.

And right now the guy doing it ( goon guns) is about 6-8 months lead time and also located in the USA.

Best advice is give it a full tear down and cleaning.

Rich

[Kev18]

Ya, i cleaned all of it but it's still messed up. I ordered a new stop. Should get it in a week or two

[root]

You did a complete frame rear down?

All i could think is that there is something under it preventing it from going back down.


It's such a common problem with cap guns more so with open frame guns.

Another fix would be vented nipples but with your guns being OG that might not be a option.

Rich

[Battis]

Did you check the bolt-trigger spring? Is it broken or loose?
Check out this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vF27Q93rcos

[Battis]

I took mine apart and I can take some step by step pics if you need them.

[45 Dragoon]

Thanks for the mention root (I'm changing that "time" thing as we speak).
Kev18, your bolt arm (the left one) is probably tired and needs to be bent outward slightly. It is actuated by the cam on the hammer. Use a flashlight and look down the hammer slot as you cycle the action. You should be able to see the cam/arm interaction.
Unless the arm is worn or the cam is worn (or obviously some of both) this should get it going again (since it was working before).
It also won't hurt to thin the width of the bolt spring (the short side of the combination spring) to remove some of the tension. It only needs about 3-4 lbs. pressure. Don't grind it if you do this, just use sand paper on a flat surface ( don't want to get it hot).

Mike (Goon)

[root]

Not a problem 45 Dragoon.

I have 7 cap guns and a 8th on the way I just sent a money order out for 1982 2nd gen Colt Dragoon and all accessories NIB.
Just started collecting the 2nd Gen colt BP stuff want a walker next.

I'll never shoot it as I didn't buy it for that but I do shoot the rest of the C&B stuff so I'm familiar with your work.

I will say 6 months isn't that bad I have NFA stuff and some of those guys are out over a year but again any smith that is a two week turn around just means they are not busy and do not specialize in any one type of gun.

6 months to me just means your work is good and in demand.

I would think customs and Canadian parliament would be more of a issue for kev18's cap gun then anything since they seem to be somewhat regulated up north.

Let us know how you make out with it Kev18

Rich

[Kev18]

I ordered a new stop from Dixie gun works. It's a repro one but hopefully it will be ok. Im waiting for it... They are sending it by plane apparently. It's been a few weeks already. Mine had an arm that was cracked and was barely holding on.

[Kev18]

I just received the part today. Before I had 4 hammer position. Down, cylinder freely rotates, safe, and fire. Now my cylinder doesn't rotate freely anymore. I need to hold the hammer with my finger so the cylinder stop stays positioned down... What causes this?