Mauser action screw question

[Remiel]

The replacement rear action screw from numrich is too short for my Spanish mauser. It was one of their repros. What is the correct length (The repro is short by 2 or 3mm and only catches the first 2 threads) and where can I find one?

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[Texas by God]

Sarco may have them.

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[M-Tecs]

http://www.hoosiergunworks.com/catalog/mausers.html

[Clark]

I just received a couple 92 spanish rear screws from Gun parts corp.

6440B - Guard Screw, Rear, New Original 2 $1.99

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/search#query=6440B

[Remiel]

I just received a couple 92 spanish rear screws from Gun parts corp.

6440B - Guard Screw, Rear, New Original2$1.99

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/search#query=6440BThat's the one I ordered and it's short, both sets.

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[pietro]

The replacement rear action screw from numrich is too short for my Spanish mauser.




Is there anything in/under either the upper rear tang or the rear of the bottom metal that's causing the need for a longer screw ?


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[Texas by God]

Lee's parts in Irving, Texas. If you can get ahold of him. Redial is your friend.

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[Remiel]

Lee's parts in Irving, Texas. If you can get ahold of him. Redial is your friend.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using TapatalkI know, that's where I got the firing pins

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[Remiel]

This is out of the stock, the screw still only grabs by a couple of threads, https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190801/9fbe9e9b78d9ead78b976bf963d4216c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190801/e083c0d9dd2e0143de26731e2403b910.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190801/935869dce8eb70711fb2f9a1bde75be6.jpg

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[Texas by God]

Of course I'm driving 80 miles an hour and looking at this at the same time, but it looks like your bottom metal is not in place correctly the bow of the trigger should be inside of the guard? My 1916 is at a friend's house so I can't really look at it to give you any help.

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[pietro]

it looks like your bottom metal is not in place correctly the bow of the trigger should be inside of the guard ?




Yep - it looks like the rear of the magazine well is limiting the TG/bottom metal from seating all the way "up".

It's fairly easy to overlook full seating of the magazine well into the recess in the bottom of the action.


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While the actions out of the stock, remove both guard screws and keep reseating the TG until the rear guard screw enters the upper tang threads fully.

[Remiel]

The trigger guard/nag housing is flush with the bottom of the receiver. I will take more pics when I have a chance.

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[Went2kck]

Try a hardware store/ we have one that caries gun screws. It is a ACE Hardware in KCK

[flounderman]

take a little off the top of the magazine. The trigger doesn't look like it is thru the hole in the trigger guard far enough. I can't see if the top of the magazine is touching the bottom of the receiver

[Texas by God]

Mauserworld is perplexing sometimes. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190803/73ca28f6f04f180502b1019e53d5d9fe.jpg

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[Remiel]

Here it is assembled without the stock, and the mag/trigger guard is flush with the receiverhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190807/6caa108bb3da74f682ff2b1bcf1114e7.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190807/fd1c9746bc197b549bae47d30c27bbf1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190807/01ff62875f60d06fbfb4ffea60611680.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190807/67fa2894ba91b15cd63b74c7caec1280.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190807/1593c8855adf40329665d68e155b3c6c.jpg

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[Remiel]

Mauserworld is perplexing sometimes. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190803/73ca28f6f04f180502b1019e53d5d9fe.jpg

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using TapatalkHow long are those and what did they come off of?

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[Texas by God]

I'm not sure what Mauser model these came from but they are non locking head. Lots of Mausers over the years but none at the house currently. Let me know if you need one of these.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190808/2c0fa8b8b583763ebc31f20514f0017a.jpg

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[Texas by God]

I just noticed that’s not an original trigger guard, is it? Don’t 1893/1916’s either have the side button release or the non hinged bullet release floor plate?

[Remiel]

I just noticed that’s not an original trigger guard, is it? Don’t 1893/1916’s either have the side button release or the non hinged bullet release floor plate?It was one of the 2 that came with it and both are the same, my friend had the side button type and had the same issue. He retapped his and used an Allen bolt. His was bought to be a 4wheeler/truck gun so restoration was low on the list(he has at least a dozen mausers that are far nicer).

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[Remiel]

I'm not sure what Mauser model these came from but they are non locking head. Lots of Mausers over the years but none at the house currently. Let me know if you need one of these.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190808/2c0fa8b8b583763ebc31f20514f0017a.jpg

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using TapatalkAre the measurements from the bottom of the head to end of the thread?

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[gwpercle]

I just noticed that’s not an original trigger guard, is it? Don’t 1893/1916’s either have the side button release or the non hinged bullet release floor plate?

My military 1893 , all original , has a non-hinged , bullet released , floor plate .
Hinged and side button released floor plates are not military issue , I think...
With Mauser's nothing is a given .
Gary

[Remiel]

My military 1893 , all original , has a non-hinged , bullet released , floor plate .
Hinged and side button released floor plates are not military issue , I think...
With Mauser's nothing is a given .
GaryThis and 6 others were ordered as kits from old western scrounger. Who knows what was thrown in.

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[Texas by God]

Factory matching # side release 1916 Oviedo. A bullet tip fits in the cup button.
As stated nothing is a given in Mausers.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190811/9d04af19e71bfce7ddb3ccc389868849.jpg

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[Remiel]

Factory matching # side release 1916 Oviedo. A bullet tip fits in the cup button.
As stated nothing is a given in Mausers.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190811/9d04af19e71bfce7ddb3ccc389868849.jpg

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using TapatalkThats the style that came with my frends kit and he had tje same issue with the short looking trigger and short action screws.

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[Texas by God]

I'm mailing the longest screw to you today.

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[Uncle Grinch]

I’ve had Mauser bottom metal that was bent down causing the screw to be too short. Gently force it back up and the screw should fit.

[JM7.7x58]

I had to make a rear screw for my Arisaka.

The screw started out as a long 6mm bolt. Grinding on the head was done with a 4 1/2” right angle grinder and a drill press. I rotated by hand until it was 12 sided, then turned on the drill press and ground it till it was round. Next I put a profile on the top of the screw. Finished it off with sand paper. Cut a slot by hand with a Sawsall blade.

Note: all the other screws had screw slots that where so messed up that even after peening the metal back I had to recut the slots with that wide Sawsall blade.

Used the proper die nut 6mm by .75mm to cut the threads. Then I cold blued (actually I used a cold patina called tri-black that I used to use twenty years ago when I was a blacksmith/architectural iron fabricator), this was followed by a heated application of Johnson’s paste wax.

Hope that helps someone, you don’t always “need” a lathe to make a gun screw.

JM

[Remiel]

I had to make a rear screw for my Arisaka.

The screw started out as a long 6mm bolt. Grinding on the head was done with a 4 1/2” right angle grinder and a drill press. I rotated by hand until it was 12 sided, then turned on the drill press and ground it till it was round. Next I put a profile on the top of the screw. Finished it off with sand paper. Cut a slot by hand with a Sawsall blade.

Note: all the other screws had screw slots that where so messed up that even after peening the metal back I had to recut the slots with that wide Sawsall blade.

Used the proper die nut 6mm by .75mm to cut the threads. Then I cold blued (actually I used a cold patina called tri-black that I used to use twenty years ago when I was a blacksmith/architectural iron fabricator), this was followed by a heated application of Johnson’s paste wax.

Hope that helps someone, you don’t always “need” a lathe to make a gun screw.

JMIs the spanish mauser screws the 6mm by .75? I know they are not 6mm by 1.0 and I have the pitted action that's going to become a 35rem project and I may run into the same issue(both have identical mag/trigger assembly's)

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[JM7.7x58]

Is the spanish mauser screws the 6mm by .75? I know they are not 6mm by 1.0 and I have the pitted action that's going to become a 35rem project and I may run into the same issue(both have identical mag/trigger assembly's)

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The Japanese made the Type 99 with all metric threading. 6mm x .75mm is not a normal metric thread size however, I had to special order the tap and dies. Not something you can go to the hardware store and buy.

From what I have read the Spanish Mausers (and most other Mausers before 1945) use a 1/4" x 22 Whitworth thread size. Taps and dies can be obtained from Brownells and other specialty machine tool websites.

It sure feels good when you get an old basket case reassembled and get it shooting again.

Good Luck,
JM