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abunaitoo
07-25-2019, 02:33 AM
Is there such a thing????
Seems like it would be very helpful.
What else could be used????
Cast boolet load data?????
Lyman cast bullet book.

Land Owner
07-25-2019, 05:07 AM
What about just using the minimums of the manufacturer's published powder recipes? They work just fine. No need to load everything to the maximum and these loads are already available and distributed.

trapper9260
07-25-2019, 05:30 AM
Here is a link I use you just enter what is ask and then it let you know how much powder to use for the FPS you want. I use it for have my 22-250 to shoot 45 gr PB like a 22lr.
http://www.weatherby.dk/rlc.htm

condorjohn
07-25-2019, 12:00 PM
Thank You Trapper! I've only been up for an hour and already learned something.

UKShootist
07-25-2019, 12:08 PM
Probably the best source I have found:-

http://www.gmdr.com/lever/lowveldata.htm

Edit to say this has all the testing that you are ever like to need. I've yet to see it's better.

gwpercle
07-25-2019, 12:30 PM
I use the starting loads , Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook #3 , #4 and RCBS Cast Bullet Manual #1.
This has been working for 40+ years now.
Gary

Bookworm
07-25-2019, 01:35 PM
I'm skeptical about that calculator. It assumes a linear relationship of velocity to charge weight.That just isn't the case usually.

Although, I will grant that the calculator may help as a starting point.

rking22
07-25-2019, 05:26 PM
Trusting memory, Im not at home, Speer #9 listed pressure tested reduced loads for most cartridges I have used. 70s powders due to vintage, but it is a starting point.

PerpetualStudent
07-25-2019, 07:43 PM
The very VERY big no no here is a slow powder reduced charge. Some people play around with reduced loads for mouse-fart or cat-sneeze loads. I fooled around with a roundball load in the .357 using low charges of unique and all I got for my trouble was the squibs and a (luckily minor) gunsmith bill since I couldn't get it out myself.

Trailboss advertises a minimum load that's safe in any cartridge. If I wanted to go down this road that's where I'd head.

brewer12345
07-25-2019, 08:01 PM
I would just start with the lyman cast manual. By definition, the vast majority of the rifle loads are reduced. Lighter boolits for caliber also tend to have less recoil. My smaller 14 year old daughter was popping off 3006 rounds with abandon because they were based on the lee soup can and a modest charge of unique.

Thin Man
07-26-2019, 05:17 AM
+1 for UKShootist's recommendation, that is unless you want j-word bullets. If that is your goal, use the faster powders (also already mentioned) at the starting load level.

cwlongshot
07-26-2019, 05:27 AM
Trusting memory, Im not at home, Speer #9 listed pressure tested reduced loads for most cartridges I have used. 70s powders due to vintage, but it is a starting point.

For more than a few printings Speer Manual always lists a reduced loading for a given caliber.

If it helps ya PM me the caliber your wanting and Ill snap a pic of that page.

CW

David2011
07-26-2019, 05:01 PM
https://www.hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/h4895-reduced-rifle-loads.pdf

big bore 99
07-26-2019, 05:12 PM
Check out the above mentioned gmdr site. Got my 45-70 down to cap gun sounding loads and a round ball over light loads of Unique. Accurate enough for tin cans @ 30yds goes right thru and takes a squirell's head clean off.
Be very careful not to double charge any.

osteodoc08
07-26-2019, 05:20 PM
Probably the best source I have found:-

http://www.gmdr.com/lever/lowveldata.htm

Edit to say this has all the testing that you are ever like to need. I've yet to see it's better.

This right here.

PerpetualStudent
07-26-2019, 06:20 PM
Nice find there David.

One thing I was told after the fact was that magnum primers are good idea with cat sneeze loads. My problem was lack of ignition with small primers.

David2011
07-28-2019, 12:52 AM
Nice find there David.

One thing I was told after the fact was that magnum primers are good idea with cat sneeze loads. My problem was lack of ignition with small primers.

A good crimp would probably be worth considering as well. That will keep the boolit in place and prevent the primer from displacing it until the powder develops enough pressure to drive the boolit.

BigAlofPa.
07-28-2019, 10:41 PM
You may find this helpful too.
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?4109-The-Load-13-grains-Red-Dot.
https://castbulletassoc.org/forum/thread/1387-the-load-is-13-grains-of-red-dot/