Beeswax/olive oil with ALOX for smokeless loads?

[Stopsign32v]

Well I've got some spare black powder lube, 60/40 beeswax/olive oil I was thinking of loading with some smokeless loads. I figured I could tumble them with ALOX. Goal is some smokey smokeless loads.

Would this work or be a bad idea for smokeless?

[Stopsign32v]

Or would be Beeswax/Olive oil work for smokeless as well? With no need of the ALOX

[stubshaft]

What caliber and velocity are you going to be shooting for?

[Stopsign32v]

45 Colt @ 900fps

[Outpost75]

The olive oil-beeswax works fine for any smokeless loads in black powder calibers, which approximate the normal blackpowder velocity expected for the cartridge, up to about 1000 fps in 7-1/2" revolvers and 1300 fps in .44-40 and .45-70 rifles and carbines. I do this all the time with 1:30 tin-lead from Roto Metals and use them for hunting as well as informal target shooting.

The Alox really isn't needed, but if loading full-charge .44 Magnum or above 1600 fps in rifles it may help.

[Larry Gibson]

Or would be Beeswax/Olive oil work for smokeless as well? With no need of the ALOX

I've used this lube up through1600+ fps with excellent performance.

[Stopsign32v]

Would the beeswax/olive oil be a particular lube that will produce smoke? Silly as it sounds.

[Outpost75]

Would the beeswax/olive oil be a particular lube that will produce smoke? Silly as it sounds.

If you like smoke, it should satisfy. My friend in Italy uses it for 10.4 Vetterli full charge loads for boar hunting and finds it adequate. A traditional bullet lubricant there, normally 1:4 mix of olive oil to beeswax, but 50-50 OK as soft lube for muzzle-loader rifle and revolver vs. BP rifle cartridges.

[GregLaROCHE]

With black powder rounds, if I want more smoke, I add extra lube behind the boolit. I’m not sure if it will work with smokeless. The heat may make it burn clean, no matter what you load into it.

If you want smoke, then load BP. It’s not that hard to clean up. Especially, if you run a smokeless round or two through afterwards.

[Tom W.]

Instead of alox I'd tumble the boolits in JPW and let them get dry overnight before I would load them. I think it does better for a lube than alox.