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abunaitoo
07-16-2019, 06:56 PM
Friend told us a story about a "Know it all" gunsmith.
He took a rifle to have two holes drilled in the barrel. to mount a scope.
Right away the guy is telling him that it was a stupid thing to do.
How no one, who knows anything, would mount a scope to the barrel.
When he told the guy he was mounting a Unertl scope, the guy told him..........
Never heard of it. Must be some cheap junk.
This guy is suppose to be the head gunsmith, at a gunshop.

sav300
07-16-2019, 07:19 PM
New gunsmith under 50?

Snow ninja
07-16-2019, 07:26 PM
Carlos Hathcock is rolling over in his grave. You can't hear him of course, but he's doing it...

scattershot
07-16-2019, 07:28 PM
Lot of gunsmiths around not worthy of the name. About all they do anymore is change parts on plastic guns.

lead-1
07-16-2019, 10:06 PM
I was so happy to have a gunsmith open fairly local that hot blued that I almost farted bubbles. I had him do two barrels for me that needed done for several years and they turned out awesome, no bubbles, but darn they looked good. Two other so called smiths in the area are either a bolt on expert or uses cold blue or parkerizing on everything.

Winger Ed.
07-16-2019, 10:15 PM
that it was a stupid thing to do..

What he meant was--- it was a stupid thing for HIM to do.

jsizemore
07-16-2019, 11:09 PM
Bought a rifle from a gun store they called a Shultz for $300 that was actually a Suhl 150- Standard. The owner that consigned the rifle and the shop had no idea what they had. Front scope mount hid the smith with the hammer and Suhl underneath.

richhodg66
07-17-2019, 07:49 AM
Time to find another gun smith. Any "gun smith" who was so ignorant as to never have heard of a Unertl scope, I wouldn't trust to do anything.

phonejack
07-17-2019, 07:52 AM
I would have thanked him for his time and left .

gwpercle
07-17-2019, 11:08 AM
You don't have to go to any school or pass any test to hang a shingle and call yourself a "Gunsmith".
Put up a sign and you are in business.
Be careful who does your work , some are better than others .

waksupi
07-17-2019, 11:56 AM
I give him credit for admitting he didn't know anything about the job. Too many would try to fake their way through it. Any gunsmith that tells you they know everything about every gun is a damned liar.

Rick Hodges
07-17-2019, 04:11 PM
I give him credit for admitting he didn't know anything about the job. Too many would try to fake their way through it. Any gunsmith that tells you they know everything about every gun is a damned liar.

Amen. A man has to know his limitations.

Bookworm
07-17-2019, 05:09 PM
What he meant was--- it was a stupid thing for HIM to do.

Now, where the heck is that 'like' button ?

trapper9260
07-17-2019, 05:27 PM
I am lucky to have a gunsmith who know what he is doing. build part of a single shot rifle to 327mag and drill the hole and mount a scope for me he made the parts for the barrel after he got the barrel made He did at first made a mistake on use a different rifle to make it as a repeater and did not work out for how he wanted it .He was the one that pick the rifle to start and to make it as a repeater . He took a long time and I kept asking him about it and got piss off but I told him I going by what he told me so he made it as a Handi rifle for me . It shoots at 50 yards less the 3/4" for me. I had him look at my 1864 Brigesburg 58 cal civil war gun if he can fix it because the last gun smith look at it ,said it could not me be fix and do not shoot it . He told me bring it in and he will look at it I went home and get it and he look down the barrel and see it still have the rifling in it .He said I can fix it but will take time to find parts and fix it I was ok with that . He got it to work and fix and found the parts that was missing. He even call Gorex about how much powder to use in it and he tested himself. before I got it. it is less then 6" group at 100 yards need to work on it more for shooting to close the group down.But he dose know what he is doing. I ma lucky, he took care of the mistake he did and that is it.

canyon-ghost
07-18-2019, 10:48 PM
I've had older gunsmIths say they've never worked on a Contender.

DCM
07-20-2019, 08:27 PM
I give him credit for admitting he didn't know anything about the job. Too many would try to fake their way through it. Any gunsmith that tells you they know everything about every gun is a damned liar.

Amen to that!
The only one I knew that came close around here got snapped up by the Army once they finally made him an offer he couldn't resist. The next closest one started in the Army wayyyyy the heck back and is 95% retired except things that Really turn his fancy.

Both of these guys are smart enough to figure out Most things and smart enough to not do stupid stuff.

Hardcast416taylor
07-23-2019, 01:49 PM
A friends Brother had a `Gunsmith` drill and tap a very nice Rem. 870 for a scope mount. Upon looking the job over later it was discovered that 1 of the screw holes was drilled thru the action and barrel and then tapped!. I hear he got a new gun out of the yelling and screaming that ensued.Robert

Mica_Hiebert
07-23-2019, 02:09 PM
In his defense... Most "gun smiths" today are probably more properly defined as "Armorer's" the majority of their business these days is trigger jobs, barrel threading, barrel replacements, glass bedding etc. Work on modern lego guns. Smiths who specialize in classic Winchesters and Shutzen type rifles are becoming a dieing breed.

jonp
07-25-2019, 12:45 PM
I called a gunsmith that had left his cards on the counter of the lgs north of here to get a scope mounted. He said he didn't mount scopes, no one did that anymore as all rifles came ready for a scope

Texas by God
07-25-2019, 01:06 PM
A bad experience with a "gunsmith" when I was a teen caused me to learn how to do most gun work myself. Some call me a gunsmith but I readily admit that I am NOT one.

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country gent
07-25-2019, 01:45 PM
Im the opposite Texas By God, I had a very good knowledgeable skilled gunsmith here I TRUSTED and knew. He did all the work on my NRA Match rifles for me I couldn't do. He passed away 2 years ago and there's no one I trust here now so Im putting my own shop in to take care of what I couldn't do before. A good gunsmith has developed a reputation for skill quality and craftsmanship. He has the knowledge not only of firearms but machining wood working and some others. A truly good gunsmith has a gull rack and waiting list. Hes not afraid to give references.

Here Im reminded of the old story. A guy stops in a town for a haircut there are 2 barbers in town. One is shaggy with a rough hair cut and the other has a nice neatly trimmed even haircut. He goes back to the shaggy Barber and gets the best haircut in many years. Moral the barbers had to cut each others hair so things arnt always as they appear. Look for the gunsmith that has the same interests as you check his work and be clear what you want

UKShootist
07-25-2019, 02:02 PM
Carlos Hathcock is rolling over in his grave. You can't hear him of course, but he's doing it...

:lol:

Kev18
07-26-2019, 01:29 AM
Sadly alot of Gunsmith are like this.
Im not sure what my definition of a gunsmith is.

1- Making barrels and trigger assemblies from scratch?

2- Tuning and modifying guns professionally?

3- Switching broken or used parts?

4- Installing forends, rail systems, and stocks?

5- Swapping dovetail sights and replacing a burred screw?

I would say 2,3,4 does it for me. In my area atleast. I still don't trust anyone with my guns so I try to do the work myself. Sometimes its like when you picture a nice scene in your head, and spend some time drawing it, then when its all done, its decent, except it looks like nothing you saw in your head...

yeahbub
07-29-2019, 12:19 PM
I had a Ruger SBH that I sent back to Ruger once for a couple of wear issues and deteriorating accuracy. It came back mostly fixed, but it now had a vastly oversized forcing cone and accuracy was worse than before, but, hey, it's "in spec" so they were done with it. What it really needed was the barrel set back several turns, the stub shortened, shoulder set back, threads extended, etc. to get the minimal forcing cone I was looking for. Several local gunsmiths were recommended so I talked to each in turn. The first one told me to my face that I didn't want that gun fixed, that I didn't even like it and should just buy a new one and be done with it. I moved on to #2 who, without looking the gun over, asked me when I cleaned it last. The last time I shot it, sez I. "Well, you should clean it again and the accuracy will come back." Wouldn't look at the gun, wouldn't even touch it. He seemed willing to talk about anything but actually fixing the problem so I moved on to #3. Once I explained what I wanted, he loudly proclaimed that such a thing was impossible to do! How so? "Well, you can't set a barrel back like that because there's no way to know whether the barrel will end up with the sights pointing up again!" I was starting to wonder if there was something about Rugers that made people want to avoid them like the plague. I shower daily - why wouldn't anyone talk sense to me? As a machinist building precision stamping dies, I was stunned that someone without such basic knowledge could ever garner a reputation as a custom gunsmith. My SBH is still in the safe, and will be until I get access to a lathe and can do the work myself.