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Lakehouse2012
07-08-2019, 11:53 PM
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Here is a 45.2.1 design in 45-70 for Carbines. I will offer it in 0.459" or 0.462" diameter and can be sized all the way down to 0.454" . Bob has shot this for years "and it's very accurate...."

This is a fantastic bullet for game hunting in the fall, lets see if there is enough interest to get it build by November.

Mold can be either 2-cav or 4-cav Brass or 6-cav Alum (You choose)
- Casting at 0.459 or 0.462 (You choose)
- Flat or Bevel base (You choose)
- Steel sprue plate
- Allen keys are included
- RCBS/Lyman top punch is included
- Uses MP mold handles or LEE 6 cavity handles (NOT included but you can add for an +$20)
- Sample of sprue lube is included (15ml)

The solid will weigh 300 grain with WW
Large round pin for the HP is 287 gr
Penta pin will be 292gr
Cup pin will be 294gr with WW.


244952

- 6 Cavity solid Aluminum - 95 Euro's (80,75 Euros with discount)
- 2 Cavity HP is 115 euros ( I think, need to confirm with Miha)
- 4 Cavity HP is 135 euros including shipping, all pins, top punch and allen keys

The conversion of Euro's to dollars will happen when Miha sends the invoice via PayPal.
GROUP BUY DISCOUNT OF 15% GIVEN AT TIME OF INVOICE

Please post your disguised email address and what mold you would like.

2-cav HP Brass
1) (Teemu) - 2-cav, HP, Flat Base, .459 - paska_10 ÄT hotmail Dot com
2) (LawrenceA) - 2-cav, HP, Flat Base, .459 - lawrenceamato at yahoo dot com dot au
3) (AnthonyB) - 2 cavity .462 HP with all pins - Anthony no space B 45 ar Verizon dot net.
4) (Lion2017) - 2 cavity HP all pins, FB - herrgiessviel at gmail.com
5) (Rattlesnake Charlie) - 2 cav, .459 BB, with all pins - charles underscore nuss aaat yahoo dat com
6)
7)
8)


4-cav HP Brass
1)
2) (Lakehouse2012) - 4-cav, HP .459, BB - sorgatz At ameritech d0t net
3) (Lakehouse2012) - 4-cav, HP .459, BB - sorgatz At ameritech d0t net
4) (Kelz213) 4-cav, Brass, HP, FB, .459 - spr02que at gmail dot com
5) (osteodoc08) - 4C brass all pins flat 459 +handles - t om ga rcia 15 at yahooooo dot com
6) (hlvabeach) 4 cav brass, plain base all pins cast .459. - Vtech26atyahoodotcom
7) (CLAYPOOL) - 4 cav HP, FB, all pins, .459 - goodfarms1 At frontier dot com
8) (pka45) .459 HP flat base 4-cavity - Peter d0t Acker at gmail d0tcom
9) (TimD) - 4-cav Brass, HP, FB, all pins, .459 kc2skg AT gmail DOT com
10)
11) (klobbermeister) - 4 cav, HP, FB, .459, +handles - klobbermeister at ameritech dot net
12) (tradbear55) - 4 cavity brass HP, GC .459 - Bluewrench75 at gmail dot com
13)
14)
15)



6-cav Solid Aluminum
1) (jmort) - 6 cav solid, NLG, .459 flat base - middle earth sales and service at gmail dot com
2) (jmort) - 6 cav solid, NLG, .459 flat base - middle earth sales and service at gmail dot com
3) (Waslamonslayer) - 6 cav solid, .459, FB - maxatyvmarinedotcom
4) (Lakehouse2012) - 6 cav solid, .459, FB - sorgatz At ameritech d0t net (honcho)
5)
6)
7)
8)
9)
10)

4-cav Solid Brass
1) (Olevern) - 4 cavity brass plain base .459" - midimize at yahoo dot com
2)
3)
4)
5)

Lakehouse2012
07-28-2019, 06:53 PM
Deer season is coming, lets get this one off the ground.

tradbear55
07-30-2019, 06:02 PM
Gonna be tough to get people interested since the pin issue. I'm on a 45-70 buy that closed over a year ago and still hasn't resolved.

Lakehouse2012
07-30-2019, 11:26 PM
Gonna be tough to get people interested since the pin issue. I'm on a 45-70 buy that closed over a year ago and still hasn't resolved.

Agreed, except I talked with him today and the HP issue is getting cleaned up, there are 3 molds that will deliver in the next week, and the remaining will get out by in of August. He's really working this hard!

Lakehouse2012
08-19-2019, 11:30 PM
Maybe we run this one as solid only?...

jmort
08-20-2019, 12:23 AM
For me, the diameter is too large
Solid with crimp groove and HiTek/PC would work if it was .459" max
Just a thought

Teemu
08-20-2019, 06:53 AM
No 2-cavity option? I prefer rather 2 than 4 cavity when diameter and weight is that what this one is. I would hop in if 2-cavity can be choose. No matter how long it takes to go on mill.

Lakehouse2012
08-20-2019, 10:05 PM
For me, the diameter is too large
Solid with crimp groove and HiTek/PC would work if it was .459" max
Just a thought

I agree with you on diameter, let me as Bob about a modification.


No 2-cavity option? I prefer rather 2 than 4 cavity when diameter and weight is that what this one is. I would hop in if 2-cavity can be choose. No matter how long it takes to go on mill.

I sure can make 2-cav can option.

Lakehouse2012
08-20-2019, 11:09 PM
No 2-cavity option? I prefer rather 2 than 4 cavity when diameter and weight is that what this one is. I would hop in if 2-cavity can be choose. No matter how long it takes to go on mill.


For me, the diameter is too large
Solid with crimp groove and HiTek/PC would work if it was .459" max
Just a thought

Ok guys, I added both options. Will have a .459 option and a 2-cav option. Who's in :)

Teemu
08-21-2019, 01:00 AM
I'm in! 2-cavity HP Flat Base .459 diameter. Thanks!

paska_10 ÄT hotmail Dot com

LawrenceA
08-21-2019, 05:44 AM
Put me in for 2-cavity HP Flat Base .459 diameter.
lawrenceamato at yahoo dot com dot au

jmort
08-21-2019, 07:21 AM
Two six cavity solids NLG .459 flat base
middle earth sales and service at gmail dot com

Lakehouse2012
08-21-2019, 07:11 PM
NICE! Thanks guys, that gives this one a shot in the arm!

I've got you all added.


Two six cavity solids NLG .459 flat base
middle earth sales and service at gmail dot com


Put me in for 2-cavity HP Flat Base .459 diameter.
lawrenceamato at yahoo dot com dot au


I'm in! 2-cavity HP Flat Base .459 diameter. Thanks!

paska_10 ÄT hotmail Dot com

Lakehouse2012
09-12-2019, 07:52 AM
Miha will only be shipping via DHL from now on and i think no more invoicing, rather youll be notified the order is ready and you purchase (similar pay methods) on his website.

This is going to be a HUGE time saver for

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squints
09-29-2019, 01:31 AM
I would be interested in a 6 cavity 300 gr in 457 aulm flat base but I am in Australia i shoot single action and we do shot big gun's in some scenario

Lakehouse2012
09-29-2019, 08:03 AM
I would be interested in a 6 cavity 300 gr in 457 aulm flat base but I am in Australia i shoot single action and we do shot big gun's in some scenarioIm sorry squints, i can only run this in .459 and 462. If you can make this work, sizing .002 shouldnt be very much work.

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AnthonyB
09-29-2019, 09:36 AM
2 cavity .462 HP with all pins for Anthony no space B 45 ar Verizon dot net.

Lakehouse2012
09-29-2019, 11:00 AM
2 cavity .462 HP with all pins for Anthony no space B 45 ar Verizon dot net.Ive added you onto the list.

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squints
09-29-2019, 10:54 PM
that sounds ok I can run with that squints

Lakehouse2012
09-30-2019, 07:48 AM
that sounds ok I can run with that squintsOk, reply with all the detail here please so i can put you on the list:
Mold type
Size cavity (459 or 462)
Disguised email address

Then i will sign you up.

Thanks,


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squints
10-01-2019, 03:09 AM
with euo to us then au it would cost me about $260 plus fright I will drop out
squints

Lakehouse2012
10-01-2019, 07:07 AM
with euo to us then au it would cost me about $260 plus fright I will drop out
squintsWait minute, you are missing how shipping works. Its 7 Euro from MP direct to you, anywhere in world.

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squints
10-02-2019, 01:49 AM
ok I did not know that so put me down agene and what is a hidden email and I am 80 next year so this thigbob and I don't get on to well squints

Lakehouse2012
12-21-2019, 01:40 PM
Bumping on Saturday

Beagle333
12-21-2019, 01:50 PM
.459, 4-cav flat base HP. shutupandjump at yahoo dot com

Lakehouse2012
12-21-2019, 01:56 PM
.459, 4-cav flat base HP. shutupandjump at yahoo dot com

Thank you Sir, you are on the list

Lakehouse2012
12-07-2020, 07:33 PM
Maybe this one is ready for a bump.

Olevern
12-23-2020, 08:03 PM
I'm in for a 4 cavity brass plain base .459"

mid i mize at wildblue.net

thanks, vern

Lakehouse2012
12-24-2020, 09:49 AM
Thanks Vern! I've added you to the list!


I'm in for a 4 cavity brass plain base .459"

mid i mize at wildblue.net

thanks, vern

Olevern
01-22-2021, 06:06 PM
Thanks Vern! I've added you to the list!

Plz make a note that my email is with no spaces

Lakehouse2012
01-26-2021, 12:37 AM
Plz make a note that my email is with no spaces

Miha is aware of this, he sees this with many folks' email.

Kelz213
01-26-2021, 10:01 AM
I'm in! 4-cav, Brass, HP, Flat Base, .459 - spr02que at gmail dot com

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Lakehouse2012
03-08-2021, 12:50 AM
I'm in! 4-cav, Brass, HP, Flat Base, .459 - spr02que at gmail dot com

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I just saw this and have added you. This is going to be a GREAT bullet!

hlvabeach
03-31-2021, 07:02 PM
Looks like he was added to the 6 cavity Aluminum list instead of 4 cav brass HP list.

"I'm in! 4-cav, Brass, HP, Flat Base, .459 - spr02que at gmail dot com"

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osteodoc08
03-31-2021, 08:56 PM
4C brass all pins flat 459 add handles
t om ga rcia 15 at yahooooo dot com

Lakehouse2012
04-01-2021, 09:12 AM
Looks like he was added to the 6 cavity Aluminum list instead of 4 cav brass HP list.

"I'm in! 4-cav, Brass, HP, Flat Base, .459 - spr02que at gmail dot com"

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Thanks for catching that! Are you also interested in jumping in?

Lakehouse2012
04-01-2021, 09:14 AM
4C brass all pins flat 459 add handles
t om ga rcia 15 at yahooooo dot com

Thanks Sir, I've got you on the list!

hlvabeach
04-01-2021, 09:28 AM
Thanks for catching that! Are you also interested in jumping in?Yes, I would also like a brass 4 cav, plain base all pins cast .459. Thanks!
Vtech26atyahoodotcom

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Lakehouse2012
04-01-2021, 11:36 AM
Yes Sir, I've added you on the list!


Yes, I would also like a brass 4 cav, plain base all pins cast .459. Thanks!
Vtech26atyahoodotcom

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CLAYPOOL
04-02-2021, 12:19 AM
Add me to the 4 cavity brass flat base, all pins, cast @ .459. goodfarms1@frontierdot com...........

Lakehouse2012
04-02-2021, 07:45 AM
Add me to the 4 cavity brass flat base, all pins, cast @ .459. goodfarms1@frontierdot com...........

I've added you to the list, Thanks!

Tazman1602
04-11-2021, 03:34 PM
Man going on two years now, this really surprises me! Hanging in there....

Lakehouse2012
04-11-2021, 07:12 PM
Man going on two years now, this really surprises me! Hanging in there....

I hear ya Taz!! I need this one as bad as you! :) Need to get more folks interested in their lever guns...

dperk
04-12-2021, 01:35 PM
I'll take one of these too!

4-cav Brass, HP, FB, .459 - fuelinjected @t gmail d0t c0m

TimD
04-12-2021, 03:31 PM
Please add me to the list,

4-cav Brass, HP, FB, all pins, .459 kc2skg AT gmail DOT com

Thanks,
Tim

Lakehouse2012
04-12-2021, 05:12 PM
I'll take one of these too!

4-cav Brass, HP, FB, .459 - fuelinjected @t gmail d0t c0m


Please add me to the list,

4-cav Brass, HP, FB, all pins, .459 kc2skg AT gmail DOT com

Thanks,
Tim

Thanks gentlemen, I have you on the list!

BigHoss74
04-19-2021, 05:42 AM
Put me down for a 4 cavity HP FB .459 and a set of handles bri2906 at AOL dot com

klobbermeister
04-20-2021, 09:09 PM
If I might ask a completely novice question (and if this isn't the place, please set me straight and (re)move this post), what are the major differences between this boolit/mold in .459 and the other group buy at <https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?359485-ACTIVE-MP-Mold-459-460-300gr-RNFP-with-HP-option>? The one in the other thread looks to be a bit longer/heavier and it has an option for a gas check. But to my untrained eye they look very similar.

I have a 45-70 NEF HandiRifle, am contemplating the future purchase of a lever gun in the same caliber, and I am looking to throw in with one of these two group buys. Any input to help educate a neophyte bullet caster/reloader would be appreciated!

Tazman1602
04-20-2021, 09:40 PM
I hear ya Taz!! I need this one as bad as you! :) Need to get more folks interested in their lever guns...

Dude I was just looking and didn’t see my name on the list? I will check again....

Art

Lakehouse2012
04-20-2021, 10:48 PM
Yes you are right, but I went through all the thread postings and you never posted on this one...

Also- there is a problem with the GB threads right now, and the honchos can't update their post #1's, it's supposed to be fixed in the next few days.


Dude I was just looking and didn’t see my name on the list? I will check again....

Art

Tazman1602
04-21-2021, 02:29 PM
Yes you are right, but I went through all the thread postings and you never posted on this one...

Also- there is a problem with the GB threads right now, and the honchos can't update their post #1's, it's supposed to be fixed in the next few days.

Lake I’m sorry — I’m in on a different group buy with you. It’s been so long I panicked when I didn’t see my name here....

Art

TimD
04-22-2021, 11:52 AM
If I might ask a completely novice question (and if this isn't the place, please set me straight and (re)move this post), what are the major differences between this boolit/mold in .459 and the other group buy at <https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?359485-ACTIVE-MP-Mold-459-460-300gr-RNFP-with-HP-option>? The one in the other thread looks to be a bit longer/heavier and it has an option for a gas check. But to my untrained eye they look very similar.

I have a 45-70 NEF HandiRifle, am contemplating the future purchase of a lever gun in the same caliber, and I am looking to throw in with one of these two group buys. Any input to help educate a neophyte bullet caster/reloader would be appreciated!

Welcome to the forum!

They are very similar. I chose this design as it has been used before with good results. The other is a new design and has not been proven. I have not cast for 45-70 before and wanted a known good design to start with.

Tim

Lakehouse2012
04-22-2021, 05:16 PM
If I might ask a completely novice question (and if this isn't the place, please set me straight and (re)move this post), what are the major differences between this boolit/mold in .459 and the other group buy at <https://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?359485-ACTIVE-MP-Mold-459-460-300gr-RNFP-with-HP-option>? The one in the other thread looks to be a bit longer/heavier and it has an option for a gas check. But to my untrained eye they look very similar.

I have a 45-70 NEF HandiRifle, am contemplating the future purchase of a lever gun in the same caliber, and I am looking to throw in with one of these two group buys. Any input to help educate a neophyte bullet caster/reloader would be appreciated!

I'm catching up on replys....

TimD is right, this mold is a proven design, has been made into molds many times. The other design is also good, I drew it up for the fella out of Germany who wanted better action on a rifle used in Europe often.

In any Marlin lever 45-70, you would not notice a difference. I'm not familiar with the Handi.

41mag
04-24-2021, 06:05 AM
I'll take a brass .459, 4-cav, flat base, HP

41mag at peoplepc dot com

Lakehouse2012
04-24-2021, 08:01 PM
I'll take a brass .459, 4-cav, flat base, HP

41mag at peoplepc dot com

Ok, I've added you onto the list, Thanks!

hithard
04-26-2021, 12:11 AM
Can anyone say if this s would be a good one for 45-90 running BP out of an original 1886 first year production?

klobbermeister
04-26-2021, 09:00 AM
Please put me down for one 4 cav fb hp brass in .459, plus handles please.

klobbermeister at ameritech dot net

Thanks!

tradbear55
04-26-2021, 11:16 AM
4 cavity brass HP, GC .459
Bluewrench75 at gmail dot com
Thank you

Lakehouse2012
04-26-2021, 03:10 PM
Please put me down for one 4 cav fb hp brass in .459, plus handles please.

klobbermeister at ameritech dot net

Thanks!


4 cavity brass HP, GC .459
Bluewrench75 at gmail dot com
Thank you

Thanks Guys, I've got you both on the list.

Beagle333
05-10-2021, 07:30 AM
4-cav HP Brass
1) (Beagle333) - .459, 4-cav, flat base, HP - shutupandjump at yahoo dot com



I'm going to pull out of this one. thanks. Chuck.

Lakehouse2012
05-10-2021, 08:11 PM
I'm going to pull out of this one. thanks. Chuck.

No problem Chuck, I've removed you.

41mag
07-14-2021, 04:40 AM
Can you remove me from the list please?

Lakehouse2012
07-14-2021, 05:05 PM
Can you remove me from the list please?I've removed you.

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Olevern
08-03-2021, 08:32 PM
my email provider went out of business, can you change my email to midimize at yahoo dot com?

Lakehouse2012
08-03-2021, 11:46 PM
my email provider went out of business, can you change my email to midimize at yahoo dot com?

That stinks... I have updated you on the list :)

dperk
09-27-2021, 09:24 PM
Hi Lakehouse, please remove me from this one. Thanks!

Lakehouse2012
09-29-2021, 12:28 AM
Hi Lakehouse, please remove me from this one. Thanks!

I've removed you from the list.

Lakehouse2012
10-14-2021, 11:29 PM
Hi everyone,

I talked with Miha yesterday, he is very sorry for all the delay in mold production. There are 2 issues he is dealing with, his supplier of the HP pins and a general shortage (and high cost) of raw materials. It's no different in the USA, if you have tried to buy any steel lately, you are in for a real shock... 2-3 times the cost from "pre-covid" pricing.

The GOOD news is, he has a new lathe coming, is supposed to start it's voyage by sea on the 28th and once it arrives and gets setup, Miha will start making his own pins!! Soon this pin-issue will be behind us. Stay patient and keep posted.

-Lakehouse2012

Humbo
10-23-2021, 06:11 PM
Can this be had with GC? If so, I want a 4 cavity brass HP with all pins, GC and .459 diameter.
bardisattva at gmail dot com.
Thanks!

Lakehouse2012
10-23-2021, 08:36 PM
Can this be had with GC? If so, I want a 4 cavity brass HP with all pins, GC and .459 diameter.
bardisattva at gmail dot com.
Thanks!

Sorry sir, this one is actually a rerun and Miha already has a cherry without the GC.

pka45
12-06-2021, 10:49 PM
First group buy! If still available, please add me for a .459 HP flat base 4-cavity. Peter d0t Acker at gmail d0tcom

Thanks, look forward to it.

Lakehouse2012
12-07-2021, 08:06 PM
First group buy! If still available, please add me for a .459 HP flat base 4-cavity. Peter d0t Acker at gmail d0tcom

Thanks, look forward to it.

Welcome aboard, I put you in slot #8 of the 4-cav. Thanks,

Lakehouse2012
12-21-2021, 03:29 PM
Update for everyone from Miha:

The CNC lathe to make all the pins is now on the ocean, expecting arrival at his shop of 28JAN22. This means that sometime in Feb he'll begin making all the pins. So stay tuned HP molds will start flowing again!

Lion2017
12-29-2021, 07:17 AM
please: 1 brass 2 cavity HP all pins bavel base: herrgiessviel at gmail.com

Lakehouse2012
12-30-2021, 09:21 PM
please: 1 brass 2 cavity HP all pins bavel base: herrgiessviel at gmail.com

Hi Lion, Ive added you to the list, but this isnt available in bevel base, are you good with FB?

Lion2017
01-01-2022, 05:09 PM
thanks. FB is fine (but I prefer GC or BB)

Lakehouse2012
01-04-2022, 01:54 AM
thanks. FB is fine (but I prefer GC or BB)

I understand.... I also prefer GC, but this one wasn't my design and was dimensioned up without it. I've got you updated

Rattlesnake Charlie
01-12-2022, 01:44 PM
Add me for one .459 bevel base 2 cavity brass with all pin options.
charles underscore nuss aaat yahoo dat com

Lakehouse2012
01-12-2022, 04:27 PM
Add me for one .459 bevel base 2 cavity brass with all pin options.
charles underscore nuss aaat yahoo dat com

Thanks Charles, I've got you on the list!

Blood Trail
01-14-2022, 09:36 PM
How does these shoot in micro grooved Marlins?


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Lakehouse2012
01-15-2022, 05:43 PM
How does these shoot in micro grooved Marlins?


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They'll shoot great, its largely dependent on your loads.