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GP100man
06-17-2019, 04:43 PM
I live in the coastal NC area we have all kinds of no legs slithering around & I`ve found this loading to glue em to the dirt , dead rat now!
when ya first shoot this load it`ll seem benine at first ,pattern it , but it`ll do the job , I shoot it from 4"& 6" revolvers .

If it`ll penatrate an aluminum can both sides it`ll put no legs to sleep, 15ft I would say is max effective range

1: anneal mouths a bit ,not a lot.
2: prime with as hot a primer you have
3:you need a full length 222 rem sizer die, size the max case to the shoulder portion of the 222 die.
4: cut cards from cereal boxes or thick poster board ,I use 2 cards tite on 4gr of CLAYS
5:fill case with shot, I ran across some #10, fill to 1/8" ,leave room to place another card on top, run case into the 222
die a bit deeper, the shoulder portion will roll the mouth a bit.
6: seal with water proof carpenters glue


PS:

After firing the brass will fire form to the chamber & will hold even more shot!

Have fun ,Be Safe!

GP100man

rancher1913
06-17-2019, 08:28 PM
your using max brass to make a magnum round? I have been meaning to try something like this if I am understanding it correctly. the problem I was having is the max brass would not chamber in a magnum, so this gets around that problem?

hockeynick39
06-18-2019, 02:25 PM
https://www.speer-ammo.com/products/bullets/shot-capsules/shot-capsule/8780

These have worked well for me in my S&W 27 and 67.

rancher1913
06-18-2019, 08:48 PM
those work quite well hockeynick but I want to be able to make shotshells with out buying plastic capsules. several people on here do it for larger calibers but in order to get enough shot in a 357 magnum you need longer brass, such as the 357 max uses.

dverna
06-19-2019, 07:43 AM
I like the idea. Using .357max brass is a better option than plastic capsules IMHO. Good thinking!

I wonder if an old Lyman 310 tong tool in .222 would work?

rancher1913
06-19-2019, 07:19 PM
just picked up a set of used 222 dies so hopefully I can experiment this weekend.

sniper
06-27-2019, 11:19 AM
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15ft I would say is max effective range

1: anneal mouths a bit ,not a lot.
2: prime with as hot a primer you have
3:you need a full length 222 rem sizer die, size the max case to the shoulder portion of the 222 die.
4: cut cards from cereal boxes or thick poster board ,I use 2 cards tite on 4gr of CLAYS
5:fill case with shot, I ran across some #10, fill to 1/8" ,leave room to place another card on top, run case into the 222
die a bit deeper, the shoulder portion will roll the mouth a bit.
6: seal with water proof carpenters glue


PS:

After firing the brass will fire form to the chamber & will hold even more shot!

Have fun ,Be Safe!

GP100man


GP Man;
Good post! A question or three, if I may:

How do you anneal the Max. cases "a bit" ? I have used the candle method for my rifle brass, and it works very well.
Hottest primers indicate Magnum? I only have standard flavor, but am willing to spend $5 if magnum primers work better. In the interest of Science, you know! :bigsmyl2:

I have my eye on a set of 222 Rem dies.
The shot capsules hold about 106 gr. shot. How much #10 does the Max. brass hold?

Thanx! :cool:

bluejay75
06-27-2019, 12:49 PM
Pictures please.

Lefty SRH
06-27-2019, 01:29 PM
Not sure its worth it if you dont have any max brass to start with....
But I like the idea and option

Scoutdog99
07-13-2019, 10:19 PM
I’ve just loaded some 357 Max snake shot loads. Hope to get a chance to try them out next weekend in both a 357 and 38 Special. I used a 30 Carbine die to neck down the end of the brass. I did have to trim the brass just a bit so they fit in the 38 Special cylinder. I was able to get around 125 grains of #9 shot using this brass. I played with the roll crimp using a 45 ACP RN seating die as well as a Lyman 310 222 muzzle resizing die. The 222 die was definitely more consistent and easier to make the roll crimp.

Midway has a good price on 357 Max brass if anyone is looking for some.

Drm50
07-14-2019, 09:18 PM
I have a couple hundred Speer 357 shot capsules that I filled back in 70s. After loading a few and shooting them I decided they were useless and never loaded anymore. I wouldn't load a lot of any 357 shot loads without shooting a few to see if they are going to make the grade.

MT Gianni
07-17-2019, 05:00 PM
360 DW brass was available and you wouldn't need much. To anneal get a 1/4" dr deep socket and an adapter from 1/4" drive to 6 point for a cordless drill/driver. Set the cartridge in the socket turning it as it goes into an LP torch flame. When you get the color change, invert it into a bucket of water.