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Bad Ass Wallace
06-11-2019, 05:38 AM
Bought my first MZ, a 32 cal CVA squirrel rifle, almost 50 years ago and while I've bought and sold a few, I have never lost the urge to fiddle with the "holy black"

Top to bottom: Parker Hale P53, Parker Hale P58 (Navy) Parker Hale 61 (Musketoon), Parker Hale .451 Volunteer, Thompson Center 54cal Hawken, Pedersoli 50cal Kentuckys (flint and percussion.

https://i.imgur.com/SY6JH8G.jpg

Boolits are big (l - r) .446 Minnie, 425gn 54cal Minnie, 520gn x .451(Volunteer), Lyman 577 Minnie and Bugg 577 Minnie, with Speer 55gn 224's for comparison

https://i.imgur.com/59Q409H.jpg

swamp
06-11-2019, 09:08 PM
Musketoon is my favorite of the Parker Hales.

swamp

Markopolo
06-11-2019, 09:17 PM
Very beautiful group there.. looks like you have a dance partner for every mood...

megasupermagnum
06-11-2019, 09:53 PM
Not to split hairs, but your hawken appears to have a renegade stock on it.

Someone was just poking fun at me for all my muzzleloaders, I didn't even realize I had as many as I do.

My very first was a Knight TK2000 12 gauge I found in a gun shop in Pillager, MN for $110. It's the only gun I have used to turkey hunt since.

Then in no particular order

TC New Englander 54 cal
TC Impact 50 cal
TC Renegade 54 cal
TC Scout pistol 54 cal

I feel like I'm forgetting one

All mine are ready, except I want to change the front sight on the renegade. Looking at the list, maybe I'm a Thompson Center addict? Pre-1998 they made some very cool stuff. I wish they would go back to that.

Markopolo
06-11-2019, 10:03 PM
Dont you have something in .45 MSM???? My buddy has one of them scout pistols in .45. Very nice piece.

Markopolo
06-11-2019, 10:26 PM
I have about that many too, not counting the cap n ball stuff..

2 in-line traditions in 50
1 20g percussion trade gun
1 cva optima version 1 in 50
1 strange Japan made 45 percussion

I have nothing nice like the stuff you guys are running.. the only one that isn’t ready to roll is the strange Japan Gun in 45. Didn’t come with a ramrod so I need to build one. I got a hardwood dowel to build one now, just haven’t gotten around to it yet. Also need to get the end hardware. Not sure what it’s called...

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What is that end piece on the ramrod called???

Marko

megasupermagnum
06-11-2019, 11:50 PM
The end of a ramrod is usually called a jag. I use cleaning jags, they have a rounded end that works good with round ball and many conicals. Some guys who shoot sabot pointed bullets swear by dedicated loading jags like a spin jag. I load and swab with the same jag, no need to be fancy.

No, I have never owned a 45 caliber muzzleloader. I love my scout pistol. It is unwieldy, but I carried it last year for hunting with no issues. I only need to find a better holster. I'm thinking a chest holster for a TC encore 10" might work.

arcticap
06-12-2019, 10:30 AM
Track of the Wolf calls the end hardware "Ramrod Tips" --->>> https://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/584/1

They come in brass, steel or nickel silver. concave and threaded.
10-32 threaded accessory jags, worms and pullers are usually the more popular threadings and easier to find.

Also: https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Search.aspx?search=ramrod%20tips

Markopolo
06-12-2019, 10:56 AM
Thank you!!!

megasupermagnum
06-12-2019, 08:28 PM
Nothing wrong with those loading tips, but these cleaning jags are exactly the same concave end, plus function for swabbing between shots. Or cleaning.

https://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/580/1

Also I see you are using a hardwood for a ramrod. That is a good choice. Do not fall for the TOTW Delrin "unbreakable" rods. Pure trash. They are like loading with a wet noodle. Hardwood or aluminum make great ramrods. I've yet to see any other material that comes close. For a range rod, those stainless steel rods with a brass guide are the top of the line.