Looking for HP molds

[Horace Hogsnort]

I'm looking for HP molds for .357, .429, and .451 boolits. Who makes'm?

[HeavyMetal]

Lyman is the only current maker that list HP's and it's only a few pistol rounds.

However some guys are doing HP on existing molds, I had Buckshot do a couple for me this year.

So if it's a feasible design and you can locate a single cavity mold in the design you want PM Buckshot and see what he's charging to do these.

[Horace Hogsnort]

Midway has an HP .356 mold, will that work in a .357 mag. revolver?

[MT Gianni]

If you understand from the getgo that it is a 125 gr bevel based bullet mine drop around 3575. Have you sized your throats? Gianni

[Horace Hogsnort]

If you understand from the getgo that it is a 125 gr bevel based bullet mine drop around 3575. Have you sized your throats? Gianni


No, but its apparent that I need to.

[Ghugly]

I don't own a factory hollow point mould, so I really can't comment on their quality. But, I can comment on the quality of Buckshot's work. The man is an artist. And, his prices will make you grin from ear to ear. For my money, find a quality, single cavity mould that throws the boolit you like and talk to Buckshot.

[EDK]

Go look at a FORSTER catalog. 'Way back when, they had an attachment for their case trimmer that cut a hollowpoint in the nose of loaded ammunition. That would be a simple and cheap solution.

Hollow-point moulds are usually single cavity...SLOW!...and a PITA to get working well. AND they are somewhat expensive...for the LYMANS anyhow...and even on EvilBay, they ain't cheap! The FORSTER rig saves you the price of more moulds and is usable with almost all calibers.

Pistol shooting is all about multi-cavity moulds, STAR sizers and DILLON (or other manufacturers') progressive presses. MASS PRODUCTION AND SPEED IS THE NAME OF THE GAME.

:Fire::cbpour::redneck:

[Horace Hogsnort]

OK, EDK, I'll check out that information. Thanks for posting.

[Scrounger]

They still make them, Midway has them. Under $14. http://www.midwayusa.com/esearch.exe/search?search_keywords=forester+hollow+pointer&category_selector=all_products&Click+to+Begin+Search.x=7&Click+to+Begin+Search.y=15&Click+to+Begin+Search=Search_Button

[Horace Hogsnort]

OK, that's cool, but how is the bullet held in the case trimmer? OH!! I GET IT!! This operation is done after the cartridge is assembled!! DUH! Now, does anybody have any idea what BHN number this operation works on? My softest bullet right now is BHN 12, will that expand?

[Bret4207]

Welcome to the asylum Horace. The Forster trimmer will work on about any lead alloy boolit you're likely to cast. It's a steel drill after all. I think you could hollowpoint a jacketed bullet if you could get it started right.

Expansion? At what velocity are you shooting, or rather striking, the target? How deep is your HP? Are you filling it with wax or lube to promote hydraulic expansion? Is it a design given to expansion to start with, ie- a FP or RN? Are you air cooling, quenching, oven hardening or soft nosing?

Lots of questions, I know. As a general rule 12 BHN is considered rather on the the soft side of "medium", about what I'd expect from straight WW with a little tin added. It should expand readily if the HP and velocity is balanced. Finding that balance point....there's the fun!

[deltaenterprizes]

I would think hard bullets would shatter rather than expand. I would try hitting the bullet with a hammer and see it it cracks or deforms, this may give you an idea of how your alloy will perform when it impacts a target.

[Horace Hogsnort]

Good info guys, I'll take it to heart. I ordered the pointer. Postage was $3 and "special handling" was $3, with the NRA Roundup it cost me $20!!

[GLL]

Talk to Buckshot.

His are a better design than the originals ! :)

Jerry

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[missionary5155]

A couple of alternatives...
#1 Use a soft enough mix and I do not think you need a hollow point. My opinion...
#2 Make yourself a hard wood or metal jig and drill your own hollow points. The Forster rig is very nice / expensive...
Every whitetail I have plowed with a revolver (41 mag and 375 Supermag) was downed with a soft (as soft as possible) boolit fired at magnum velocities. Each boolit plowed a GREAT wound channel and exited leaving a nice set of drain holes. Would a hollow point have done any better ???
If I want 50 HP´s I make a JIG in 15 minutes for that CALIBER. I can then HP any Boolit in that CALIBER.
Historicly when did hunters start using hollowpoints... Anyone have a series of old Ideal reprints handy that could look that up.. Accuracy.. Maybe a hollowpoint is .058 % more accurate. But at real hunting distances that 95% of us actually harvest at... that amounts to less than a heartbeat wobble...
I am not against hollow points... I make / use them off and on... But I just do not see them as "the Best thing that ever happened"... Especially when it is gonna cost me BIG $

[Bret4207]

I would think hard bullets would shatter rather than expand. I would try hitting the bullet with a hammer and see it it cracks or deforms, this may give you an idea of how your alloy will perform when it impacts a target.

There are several kinds of "hard" with cast boolits. The 2 biggies are "hard and ductile" and "hard and brittle. Lead and tin are both ductile. Antimony is brittle. You can quench a 12 BHN WW boolit and get a 20-24 BHN boolit if there is the right amount of tin and antimony and trace elements in the alloy. Or you can take monotype or linotype and create a truly hard/brittle boolit.

The alloy is only part of the issue. "Hard" is a relative term and varies.

[thehouseproduct]

Talk to Buckshot.

His are a better design than the originals ! :)

Jerry

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Is there a tutorial on how to make this type of modification yourself? Do you drill from the top or bottom?