What's Wrong in this 1958 Picture

[omgb]

Got a picture from the back cover of the Lyman Cast Bullet book. Ive had the book for years. Just now noticed this huge mistake. Can you see it too?242885

[Mica_Hiebert]

Time period mistake? Or dude casting in bare feet?

[Peregrine]

I mean there's the whole no protective gear of any sort whatsoever and hot lead on the floor by bare feet, but they were all real men back then, even the women.

[Blammer]

wrong caliber mold for the rifle above the mantle. :)

[Dieselhorses]

No PPE. I mean there are some shoes just a foot away from the dude.

[poppy42]

Ah guys, Picture depicts colonial times they didn’t exactly have protective gear and respirators! I’ll be a little bit more disturbed if I saw someone casting for his musket, in colonial times, Wearing a face shield, a respirator, and a full zoot/ hazmat suit!!! Maybe that’s just me though

[DonMountain]

I wonder how she is holding the mold closed as she pores in the lead?

[Walter Laich]

the wide screen TV just out of the picture? :-P

[Walter Laich]

what about the musket upside down above the fire? Doesn't all the powder drop out of the pan in that position?

Also you wouldn't want it that close to open fire.

just my 2¢

[Tom W.]

Not holding the mold closed.....
And where is the lead pot?

[CastingFool]

what about the musket upside down above the fire? Doesn't all the powder drop out of the pan in that position?

Also you wouldn't want it that close to open fire.

just my 2¢

This.

[omgb]

242892. It’s his stupid bare feet. Look at one unfocused moment did to my hand! Imagine this on your feet

[wddodge]

I'd think the happy looking dog in the pic should look a little peeved about using his bowl for boolits..

Denny

[GOPHER SLAYER]

On a flint lock rifle the pan holding the priming powder is covered by the frizzen. This would prevent the powder from falling from the pan. Most rifles were hung upside down for the simple reason, it is easier.

[Winger Ed.]

There's no way to control wooden splinters without a rug over them.

Ya didn't go barefoot on those rough hewn plank floors.

[omgb]

I’ve had this book for years and only noticed it this AM. As to the rifle frozen down, not only is that the natural balance point but it keeps oil and grease out of the stock

[omgb]

Frizzen not frozen. Stupid spell check

[M-Tecs]

Way to much junk in front of the rifle. The ladle was the pot. While actual pic's would be at a later date in these photo's over the door was common for storage.

[Taterhead]

The first thing that jumped off the page was him playing footsie with the sprues. No doubt they'd be hot enough to notice with bare feet.

[Mike H]

Not holding the mould closed.

[44Blam]

He got his wife to cast for him? How did that happen?

[MT Gianni]

If he had owned socks he would have worn them. She is melting lead in the dipper and the mold is cooling. The dipper is turned to the side to retain heat as having it flat would expose more surface area to cool. We could complain about the poor fitting of the flooring but few things from old standards meet todays standards.
He may have just come in from outside and the sprues are a known heat source for cold feet. She is insulating the mold handles with her skirt.

[lightman]

I'm thinking the bare feet.

[Tracy]

I was thinking tong loading tool/mold and a Kentucky rifle. Then I remembered that I have seen bullet molds that look like that. So I'm really not sure.
As for the bare feet, it would arguably be better to spill lead onto a bare foot than into the top of one of those moccasins with the same foot inside it.

[Walks]

Golden Retrievers didn't exist yet ? Looks like he's cutting patches, All the stuff in the way of easy access to the Rifle. She's wearing her hair in a bun on top of her head and not down on her neck. Not Holding the mold closed. The funny looking deer skull mount.

Heck, I've got so much tape holding mine together, I can't tell man from woman.

[shell70634]

How bout the swinging pot hook post is in the fireplace? How long you gonna go before you give it up?

[TCFAN]

This is one of my favorite pictures.To me it shows a more simple way of life where you have to make do for your self and family.
Wish I could find a really good copy to frame.

https://i.imgur.com/2mub4OZ.jpg

[nvbirdman]

I don't think he's cutting patches, I think he's trimming the sprues.

[shell70634]

Wood chimney?

[redhawk0]

She's wearing white after Labor Day. :bigsmyl2:

redhawk

[rubinschmidt]

It looks like his left foot has a high arch - but not his right. Kinda hard to tell, but does he have six toes?

[mdi]

The pic is from the "Pre OMG I'm gonna burn my fingers off and die from lead poisoning paranoia" era, when casting didn't require a full Haz-Mat suit. If any hot lead landed on his feet, it would probably only stay there for .2 second before he did his rain dance. During those times most people didn't need to do any more than think about what they were doing at the time and none needed Big Brother watching over them (requiring "PPG"). The mold looks pretty small, but I've seen old single cavity molds like that that incorporated a clip to hold the handles closed. Before everybody got a fancy electric bottom pour lead pot, a popular small lead melting tool looked like a large ladle with a heating coil in it and before that many melted in and poured from a large ladle. If a gun were stored away, or hanging upside down, there probably wouldn't be any powder in the pan anyway.

I may be not paying enough attention, but all I see is a frontier family making some rifle balls. The woman is pouring while on the floor, and the man is trimming sprues (with a fillet knife?). I only counted 3 legs on the dog though,but one could be under his belly...

[gwpercle]

He's Got Six Toes !!!!!

[WILCO]

Nothing wrong. It harkens back to when people minded their own business while others lived their lives.

[country gent]

Im thinking from the acuterments and equipment this pic is closer to 1858 than 1958.

[Hardcast416taylor]

It`s an artists idea of how things should have been , in his mind and nothing more. If something is in error for being incorrect - so what it still is a neat picture to look at.Robert

[flint45]

I cast in shorts and bare feet a lot have the little scars to prove it to. I am free to be me;:lol: I am to old to die.

[ShooterAZ]

Lead pot right next to the cooking pot.

[KCSO]

People didn't wear shoes much even until the 1950's. Hey I never had shoes on except for church from May to September, working in wheat stubble on gravel drives even today my feet are tough enough to walk in the snow in winter. I wear moccasins most of the time when not working and have cast bullets over an open fire wearing mocs and no socks plenty of times. You are putting a modern spin on what was a long time ago. He probably filed his powder horn in front of that same fire.

[JonB_in_Glencoe]

I have a couple thoughts.

First, if she is dipping lead out of one of the large pots over the fire, it'd be darn heavy for that bracket, that they are hanging from. But those could both be food/soup/water pots and she could be melting the lead in that ladle, right on the coals. I suspect the later.

Second, I am not a Cast Iron pot specialist, but both them pots have a seam, like they each are a two piece, for maybe double boiler style cooking...if that is the case, there is nothing supporting the bottom piece.

[Bazoo]

I think it's a neat picture. I'd like to have a larger framed one on my wall.

[Nueces]

It's a lovely, evocative painting. Who gives a rodent's nethers if it trespasses upon modern safety culture sensibilities?

[Lead pot]

Lead in those days was no problem unless you got shot with a lead ball.
In those days if you had a lot of money to be able to afford a set of falls teeth made from Lead like George Washington had.
The fire flames are moving in a wrong direction compared to the steam off the pot.
His left foot big toe looks and is shaped like a small toe.

[Cheeto303]

She ain't makin him a samich!

[Burnt Fingers]

Lead in those days was no problem unless you got shot with a lead ball.
In those days if you had a lot of money to be able to afford a set of falls teeth made from Lead like George Washington had.

His left foot big toe looks and is shaped like a small toe.

I think you mean false teeth. However too much lead in your system might make your teeth fall out.

[Thunder Stick]

He's holding a knife in his right hand and a stop watch in his left hand. He's forcing the woman to cast his boolits and timing her. :lol:

[kungfustyle]

42......
42??? What is the question?
Come back in 6 million years.....

[Lead pot]

I think you mean false teeth. However too much lead in your system might make your teeth fall out.

Yup thank you. This MAC does what it wants to do, not what I want :)

[725]

I vote for not holding the mold.

[17nut]

Two pots that big for two persons!
That lady is up to some shady stuff, running an illegal soup kitchen on the side???

[gwpercle]

I keep looking at the picture and still see his 6 toes .
I do like the way the wife holds the mould while filling it .... just lets it lie on the floor , not holding the handles ... I've never tried that method !
Gary

[MT Chambers]

This is back when men were men and women were women and both helped each other, most on here won't be happy that they are not using a drip-o-matic.

[nun2kute]

must be a stiff breeze in there with that flame going sideways like that.

[rking22]

I got it, where's the cat? Anyway, looks fine to me. Running some balls while supper is finishing. She is melting and pouring from the same ladle, mold is fine on the rock hearth. I would have left the shoes by the door and have no problem barefoot on pretty much anything, he wouldn't either. Burning a hole in a shoe was way worse than an ouchy on his foot. If they didn't help each other in those times, both would be up the creek. Yep , love the picture, great dipiction of a more laid back time. I would like a print as well!
And in 1958, lyman wasn't worried about safety fanatics, you were responsible for tourself. As it should be.

[barrabruce]

Apart from looking like his is cutting up a string of balls out of a single ball mould with a spruce cutter.(I can’t really see)
It’s obvious he is using wheel weights.
Where did he get his lead?
By digging it out of dead inguns ‘n cowboys or buffalo?
By lining up the deer with a tree and then shooting?
Running up with his Arkansaw tooth pick and digging the lead out.
:shock:
That’s it he ain’t got no booey knife.
And his wife is too purty and re-fined ‘n pampered looking unless he jist married his littlest sister.
She should be looking a lot more "weathered".

Plus I reckon the fire place is way too big unless he has a Victorian mansion log cabin.

[Silvercreek Farmer]

Forcing his wife to cast his boolits at knife point is a bit harsh.

On the other hand, he's letting her have all the fun...

[bishopgrandpa]

His left wrist. A shadow or watch band?

[scattershot]

Looks like his left moccasin doesn’t have room for his toes. Also, looks like fire coming out of the pan on the rifle over the mantle.

Other than that, great picture.

[TNsailorman]

Its an advertisement people and not necessary to be accurate as to "safe" practice. There were a lot of things different back in the day and circumstances were also different. There is nobody alive today that can relate to what life was like back in the time frame being shown--nobody!

[Hossfly]

I think I would hang that bigger pot closer to hinge point and the smaller one further out just for leverage but that’s just me.

[redhawk0]

OK...so I really do like this picture. I can't find it anywhere though. I did a google search and came up empty...anybody have a link to where I can find it.

redhawk

[rmark]

He could at least get her a 6 cavity mould for valentines day.

[TCFAN]

From the 1958 Lyman cast bullet hand book...Back Cover:The Bulletmakers,by Gayle Hoskins,depicting a scene in a backwoods cabin in the Western Reserve about 1800 from the Samworth Collection

[scattershot]

OK, 64 posts, what did we all miss?

[omgb]

It was the bare feet among the pile of sprues.

[rking22]

Nope, missing Cat

[MT Gianni]

Apart from looking like his is cutting up a string of balls out of a single ball mould with a spruce cutter.(I can’t really see)
It’s obvious he is using wheel weights.
Where did he get his lead?
By digging it out of dead inguns ‘n cowboys or buffalo?
By lining up the deer with a tree and then shooting?
Running up with his Arkansaw tooth pick and digging the lead out.
:shock:
That’s it he ain’t got no booey knife.
And his wife is too purty and re-fined ‘n pampered looking unless he jist married his littlest sister.
She should be looking a lot more "weathered".

Plus I reckon the fire place is way too big unless he has a Victorian mansion log cabin.

Gunpowder sent to trappers in the early 1800's came in 1/2 lb containers of lead. They weighed enough to match loads for a 50 cal round ball.

[MT Gianni]

It looks like his left foot has a high arch - but not his right. Kinda hard to tell, but does he have six toes?

The right foot has a large bunion.