Bucket list broomy

[dkonrai]

After a long wait. She is finally home. All matching including the grips. Cant wait to shoot her.
Grease was pretty thick at some spots, slide and safety were sticky. Hoppes did the trick. Adter a bath she's alot smoother.
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[onelight]

I like nice broom handle,!

[dkonrai]

I like nice broom handle,!Thanks!

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[Dan Cash]

You have a fine bit of ordnance there. Don't feed it Tokarev ammo and you will shoot it for years to come. You can push a 105 grain cast bullet to 12-1300 fps without stressing your prize. Only drawback to these Broom handles is they throw brass far, wide and handsome. Fortunately, Starline has it on the cheap.

[dtknowles]

Yeah, every time I see one for sale I am tempted.

Tim

[dkonrai]

You have a fine bit of ordnance there. Don't feed it Tokarev ammo and you will shoot it for years to come. You can push a 105 grain cast bullet to 12-1300 fps without stressing your prize. Only drawback to these Broom handles is they throw brass far, wide and handsome. Fortunately, Starline has it on the cheap.Should have mentioned. Shes a 9mm Prussian contract. [emoji2]

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[EMC45]

Nice "Red 9".

[GhostHawk]

Awesome!

[dkonrai]

Yeah, every time I see one for sale I am tempted.

TimI actually went in to buy a luger. Collector passed and his nephew dropped off 70 firearms on consignment.
Owner advised me to buy the mauser vs the luger. That luger was near mint, all numbers matching. So upon his advice, I went for it. Glad I did.
Now if the rain and wind would stop I can get some pew time in.

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[missionary5155]

Good evening
Always nice to see another nice Broom going out to be shot.
We have several and each one is fun to take outside.
I agree with the "Tokarev" warning. Much to hot for a Broom.
Mike in Peru

[dkonrai]

Good evening
Always nice to see another nice Broom going out to be shot.
We have several and each one is fun to take outside.
I agree with the "Tokarev" warning. Much to hot for a Broom.
Mike in PeruO no! You have several? Is this just the beginning? Lol. I tore it apart and cleaned what i could. Wolf is still out of stock on the spring set. And waiting for the stop block.
On the fence if I should just shoot the dam thing as it is.

Still have eyes on a luger [emoji2] more shooter grade.

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[charlie b]

One of the better advantages of the 9 is readily available and cheap ammo.

I reload for my wife's Mauser. Took a while to find a load that would cycle the action reliably. Close to book max. Easier to find factory ammo these days and it is about the same prices as the Tokarev ammo so no need to use the hotter stuff.

I don't like firing it much as a pistol, but, as a carbine with the buttstock it is great.

[RED BEAR]

I have always liked those but never owned one. Some day.

[dkonrai]

One of the better advantages of the 9 is readily available and cheap ammo.

I reload for my wife's Mauser. Took a while to find a load that would cycle the action reliably. Close to book max. Easier to find factory ammo these days and it is about the same prices as the Tokarev ammo so no need to use the hotter stuff.

I don't like firing it much as a pistol, but, as a carbine with the buttstock it is great.Good Intel! Heard the mausers like hotter loads. Being in Kommifornia ammo will be difficult come July.
Never knew mauser came in 9mm. Thought they were all .30 mauser.
As for the stock? Yeah No go here. Considered a sbr in this commie state.

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[dkonrai]

I have always liked those but never owned one. Some day.Getting harder to find. Prices keep increasing. I say get one now [emoji2]

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[Texas by God]

They were also chambered in 9mm Mauser Export- similar to a hot loaded 9mm Largo. Very Rare.

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[dkonrai]

They were also chambered in 9mm Mauser Export- similar to a hot loaded 9mm Largo. Very Rare.

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Would be a fun round!

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[charlie b]

The 7.63 (.30) Mauser was not a really hot load, but, not mild either. The 'hot' loads are the 7.62x25 Tokarev loads. The Russians made it hot for use in submachine guns. Do not fire those in the Mauser.

The problem with Mausers is finding out exactly which one you are looking at. They range from extremely rare to very common (since the Chinese made a huge number of them). Prices change drastically based on who is looking for which model. A while ago the British imported versions were going for bigger bucks because Churchill used one.

Here is a pretty good list of production models.
http://www.northwest-denture.com/mauser1896/Indexg.htm

[9.3X62AL]

I have one of the early 1990s imports, a mixed-parts gun in 30 Mauser. I had the now-defunct Federal Ordnance re-condition it soon after I picked it up, and I take it out a couple times each year for fun and recreation. I usually restrict it to Lee 100 grain RNs at 1100 FPS and Lyman #311249 at 1200 FPS. I use Unique powder to get to those speeds rather than usually-recommended Bullseye.

For Tokarev and CZ-52 pistols, AA-7 powder is the magic fuel to get the velocities up without spikey pressures like the Bullseye and Alliant shotgun powders produce at higher-than-shotgun pressures. AA-7 has done great work in 30 Luger, as well.

[dkonrai]

I have one of the early 1990s imports, a mixed-parts gun in 30 Mauser. I had the now-defunct Federal Ordnance re-condition it soon after I picked it up, and I take it out a couple times each year for fun and recreation. I usually restrict it to Lee 100 grain RNs at 1100 FPS and Lyman #311249 at 1200 FPS. I use Unique powder to get to those speeds rather than usually-recommended Bullseye.

For Tokarev and CZ-52 pistols, AA-7 powder is the magic fuel to get the velocities up without spikey pressures like the Bullseye and Alliant shotgun powders produce at higher-than-shotgun pressures. AA-7 has done great work in 30 Luger, as well.My powders in stock, 231, be86, universal , bullseye, unique, and v320.
Thinking of 5.0 gr of 231 behind a 115 or 124 pill should run pretty good?

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[charlie b]

If you are talking about the .30 Mauser I would use Unique.

[dkonrai]

If you are talking about the .30 Mauser I would use Unique.Oops.
I will be reloading 9mm.

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[9.3X62AL]

5.0 x WW-231 is listed as a "max" load with the RCBS 115 and 124 grain cast bullets in the 1986-produced RCBS Cast Bullet Manual, No. 1. Out of an abundance of caution, I would start with 4.5 grains of 231, and if reliable function is produced I would leave things at that. If the pistol is balky due to low pressure, step up the loadings until reliable function occurs, and go no higher.

[dkonrai]

5.0 x WW-231 is listed as a "max" load with the RCBS 115 and 124 grain cast bullets in the 1986-produced RCBS Cast Bullet Manual, No. 1. Out of an abundance of caution, I would start with 4.5 grains of 231, and if reliable function is produced I would leave things at that. If the pistol is balky due to low pressure, step up the loadings until reliable function occurs, and go no higher.Ok. Maybe I will start out at 4.0 grains and work up the load. Good tip.

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[TCLouis]

Nice looking Broomhandle.
Congrats on the purchase!
I have one of those in a "smoothbore" model.
Chinese must have never learned to clean guns after corrosive (my guess)
I kept saying I was going to send it to that outfit in Florida for a new barrel/rechamber, but never got off my duff until they disappeared.
Now I have a large paperweight!

[dkonrai]

I have one of those in a "smoothbore" model.
Chinese must have never learned to clean guns after corrosive (my guess)
I kept saying I was going to send it to that outfit in Florida for a new barrel/rechamber, but never got off my duff until they disappeared.
Now I have a large paperweight!How sad. Shot out bore? Probably need additional parts too? You need to discard that unsafe chinese knockoff. I would be glad to assist in disposal.
Imho I would put some $$ in it and have a fun time.

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[9.3X62AL]

Ok. Maybe I will start out at 4.0 grains and work up the load. Good tip.

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FWIW--I cooked up a "duplicator load" for the 9mm W-W sub-sonic 147 grain JHP load that my old shop still authorizes. It uses 4.1 grains of WW-231 and gives about 950 FPS to jacketed 147 grain HPs, which mimics the carry load pretty closely. 4.0 grains of WW-231 might make everything work with a 115-125 grain bullet, or it might be a little weak for full-function or bolt lock-back. 9mm pistols follow different rules than the 45 ACP or most revolver rounds do.

[dkonrai]

FWIW--I cooked up a "duplicator load" for the 9mm W-W sub-sonic 147 grain JHP load that my old shop still authorizes. It uses 4.1 grains of WW-231 and gives about 950 FPS to jacketed 147 grain HPs, which mimics the carry load pretty closely. 4.0 grains of WW-231 might make everything work with a 115-125 grain bullet, or it might be a little weak for full-function or bolt lock-back. 9mm pistols follow different rules than the 45 ACP or most revolver rounds do.My normal load is 4.0 gr of 231 with a 115 or 124 fmj. 3.5 or so for lead.
Also have a bunch of titegroup 4.0 gr with 124s fmj. I dont like the tg I feel it runs a bit hotter than the 231.

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[asmith80]

I've got a 1920s commercial model in .30 Mauser, but I'd love to have one in 9mm just so I could shoot it more. I guess one of these days I'll have to get around to loading for 30 Mauser, but it seems like I always have another project waiting that gets in the way

[Texas by God]

I have one of those in a "smoothbore" model.
Chinese must have never learned to clean guns after corrosive (my guess)
I kept saying I was going to send it to that outfit in Florida for a new barrel/rechamber, but never got off my duff until they disappeared.
Now I have a large paperweight!Redman's will reline it to 7.62 or rebore to 9mm- your choice. At least they used to.

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[Dan Cash]

I've got a 1920s commercial model in .30 Mauser, but I'd love to have one in 9mm just so I could shoot it more. I guess one of these days I'll have to get around to loading for 30 Mauser, but it seems like I always have another project waiting that gets in the way

Get a set of dies and a mould for that pistol and start shooting. Reloading .30 Mauser is very easy, not fraught with toil and trouble as claimed by some.

[Bulldogger]

Redman's will reline it to 7.62 or rebore to 9mm- your choice. At least they used to.

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I had one relined by Randy about 5 years ago. Tip: Call him first to make sure he has the capacity/time to take it in, don't just mail it off. He was glad I called first. He will add that if you send the bolt he will headspace it too. I got mine back in just over a month, IIRC, and the new bore and chamber were very nicely done.

BDGR

[TCLouis]

Yes Redman's still does or did last I checked last fall or so.
Trouble is I am a cheapskate and not sure I could get that much enjoyment out of it.
Barrel is shot/corroded out.
Would likely go 9mm even though I have a few hundred (I think) rounds of milsurp 7.6?X??.
Only part that I know of needed is a firiing pin and I have a new one of those lying around "somewhere".

[charlie b]

As long as it is German milsurp or is Mauser ammo then it would be ok. If it is Russian then might be subgun ammo and should not be used. Just about anything labeled 7.62x25 is suspect. Most Mauser ammo I have seen is labeled 7.63