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pack3480
04-09-2021, 06:18 AM
pack3480: one 4 cav HP Brass all pins NLG with handles
one 8 cav Solid Alum NLG with handles
one 8 cav Solid Alum with handles
dcasad(at)hotmail(dot)com

Lakehouse2012
04-09-2021, 07:13 AM
Thanks Pack, you are getting in just in time, this is next on his list!


pack3480: one 4 cav HP Brass all pins NLG with handles
one 8 cav Solid Alum NLG with handles
one 8 cav Solid Alum with handles
dcasad(at)hotmail(dot)com

Kelz213
04-19-2021, 10:43 PM
Please add me to the group buy for (1) - 4 Cavity HP all pins. Spr 02 que at gmail (dot) com

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Lakehouse2012
04-22-2021, 05:18 PM
Please add me to the group buy for (1) - 4 Cavity HP all pins. Spr 02 que at gmail (dot) com

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

Thank you Sir, I've got you on the list

Keith429421
04-24-2021, 01:21 PM
If not too late, I’d like a 4-cav HP all pins - dannybritton at att . net

Lakehouse2012
04-24-2021, 08:03 PM
If not too late, I’d like a 4-cav HP all pins - dannybritton at att . net

You are just in time! I've got you on the list! Thanks

Capt.Red.44
05-10-2021, 01:06 AM
Add me to the list. 4 cav, brass, all HP pins ( esp penta) PB + handles. Hope im not too late.
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Capt.tipton at G Mail. Com

Lakehouse2012
05-10-2021, 08:09 PM
You are good, I've added you to the list!


Add me to the list. 4 cav, brass, all HP pins ( esp penta) PB + handles. Hope im not too late.
32059
Capt.tipton at G Mail. Com

Capt.Red.44
05-13-2021, 01:43 PM
Thanks Lakehouse!

dswancutt
05-14-2021, 01:08 PM
Please add me to the list, 4 cavity HP, all pins + handles. dswancutt at msn dot com 68939

Michael J. Spangler
05-15-2021, 03:10 PM
Any updates on when Miha will get to run this batch?

I scored a 2 cavity in a trade but all it did was make me want the 4 cavity more!

Lakehouse2012
05-16-2021, 02:49 AM
Any updates on when Miha will get to run this batch?

I scored a 2 cavity in a trade but all it did was make me want the 4 cavity more!

It's coming quick!! Watch this thread this week for info...

rototerrier
05-17-2021, 02:54 PM
Watching :shock:

Eddie17
05-17-2021, 04:21 PM
Also

MiHec
05-18-2021, 08:12 AM
E-mails are out....................

rototerrier
05-18-2021, 08:27 AM
.... Nothing yet

rototerrier
05-18-2021, 08:53 AM
It showed up. Woohoo! Excited

dg31872
05-18-2021, 09:02 AM
I got my email. Is this his invoice?

TimD
05-18-2021, 09:05 AM
I got my email. Is this his invoice?

I used the link for the mold I signed up for and used the provided password when prompted.
Then selected the options, added it to the cart, and checked out.
Use the coupon code provided for an additional discount when checking out.
Worked for me!

rototerrier
05-18-2021, 09:26 AM
Yup! Got mine ordered. Worked as expected. Thanks!

dswancutt
05-18-2021, 10:14 AM
Somehow I didn't make the list

xiholdtruex
05-18-2021, 10:43 AM
Got mine ordered , looking forward to this mold :)

CoolHandMoss
05-18-2021, 01:23 PM
Very excited to finally have this ordered. During checkout the currency changed over so I'm not exactly sure how much I spent but whatever haha

Capt.Red.44
05-18-2021, 06:09 PM
Just ordered mine with handles! Cant wait to try it out!

dperk
05-18-2021, 06:54 PM
Ordered. Excited to get this one!

Michael J. Spangler
05-18-2021, 07:59 PM
Ordered both of mine. Can’t wait!! Thanks again Lakehouse!

johnfl
05-18-2021, 08:33 PM
I'm confused (not uncommon these days) shipping by FedEx included came to 161.01 in US Dollars?

CoolHandMoss
05-19-2021, 12:14 AM
Sounds like the price after shipping was added.

DW475
05-19-2021, 12:34 AM
Ordered and cant wait to get this one.

MiHec
05-19-2021, 04:14 AM
Somehow I didn't make the list

send me e-mail on

miha . prevec atttt siol . net

Lakehouse2012
05-19-2021, 11:13 AM
All- this GB will move to the Completed/awaiting for delivery section of the forum. I'm leaving a redirect link up for 1 week on this section.

rcn11thacr
05-20-2021, 01:50 PM
I got my email and my items are on the way. My only complaint is I was unable to get the website to accept the additional 5% off code. Not the end of the world, but his website is a pita.

Billwnr
05-21-2021, 10:57 AM
Mine is working towards the international shipping area. If I read it correctly it's now in Denmark.

TimD
05-21-2021, 12:32 PM
UPS is delivering mine today! :bigsmyl2:

Billwnr
05-23-2021, 11:07 AM
Mine is now in Tennessee awaiting movement to the western part of the US. I suspect a lot of others have their moulds sitting in Tennessee also.

xiholdtruex
05-25-2021, 06:32 PM
Just got mine in cant wait to cast with this. The mould is beautiful.

Michael J. Spangler
05-25-2021, 07:33 PM
Mine showed up this afternoon too.
I assembled it but I still need to clean her up and heat cycle before I cast.

I’m so happy I got all the pins because my 2 cavity only came with flat and penta IIRC.

cephas53
05-26-2021, 08:00 AM
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Showed up in NWPA late yesterday afternoon. Sat in Indianapolis a couple days.
Have used a couple of his other molds so assembling pins was no problem.
Had some time this morning so cast up a few with 40:1.
.358 and 157 grs.

Thanks to the head honcho, got a cold one for you if we ever meet.

CoolHandMoss
05-26-2021, 01:56 PM
Got mine and took it for a test drive yesterday. Very happy. Loaded a few after the sun went down. Can't wait to shoot them today.

Double D
05-27-2021, 12:56 PM
I have no email as of 5/27 - very disappointed.

Lakehouse2012
05-27-2021, 08:07 PM
I have no email as of 5/27 - very disappointed.

Your name is on the list. #43 of the 4-cav HP list. Please look at post #1 and verify that the email is correct. If so, send Miha an email directly and he will get you a mold. - miha.prevec@siol.net

- Lakehouse

JAMESGR
05-27-2021, 10:59 PM
Lakehouse, Thank You for running this buy. Received mine yesterday. Will try it soon. Gonna leave the four cavity brass set up for hollow points.
JAMESGR

Double D
05-28-2021, 08:46 AM
Your name in on the list. #43 of the 4-cav HP list. Please look at post #1 and verify that the email is correct. If so, send Miha an email directly and he will get you a mold. - miha.prevec@siol.net

- Lakehouse

All squared away. My thanks to Lakehouse and TimD for assistance.

dimaprok
05-29-2021, 04:30 PM
Got mine on May 26th and proceeded to cast the bullets using my normal mix 50% pure and 50% WW I casted a tin can full and took some measurements.
Top driving band at lowest point is .357" and bottom driving band at .358". My Lee 358 sizing die doesn't even touch the bottom band all the way around. I was expecting to be at least 359, I could live with 358, but not with 357. My aluminum MP molds drop over .001" which is fine by me. This is my first brass mold and I don't know what to think.
Anyone else measured theirs?
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Michael J. Spangler
05-29-2021, 07:18 PM
Got mine on May 26th and proceeded to cast the bullets using my normal mix 50% pure and 50% WW I casted a tin can full and took some measurements.
Top driving band at lowest point is .357" and bottom driving band at .358". My Lee 358 sizing die doesn't even touch the bottom band all the way around. I was expecting to be at least 359, I could live with 358, but not with 357. My aluminum MP molds drop over .001" which is fine by me. This is my first brass mold and I don't know what to think.
Anyone else measured theirs?
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Are you sure the micrometer is accurate? If so they maybe try a little more tin?
Sometimes the alloy isn’t always what you think it is. I learned that the hard way after doing some XRF analysis.
That solved the issue of why some alloy blends weren’t behaving as expected.

CoolHandMoss
05-29-2021, 07:31 PM
I am also finding the bottom band to be bigger than the top. But I am getting .3585 on the bottom and full contact through the .358 lube/size die. I have resolved to hi-tek this particular bullet rather than lube size in general to get the diameter consistent on all driving bands.

dimaprok
05-30-2021, 04:45 AM
Are you sure the micrometer is accurate? If so they maybe try a little more tin?
Sometimes the alloy isn’t always what you think it is. I learned that the hard way after doing some XRF analysis.
That solved the issue of why some alloy blends weren’t behaving as expected.

Yes, micrometer is accurate, I got same reading with calipers as well but micrometer is much more accurate and reliable than calipers, I do machining so I know these tools.
As far as alloy its the same alloy I've been using that dropped .359 bullets from the other mold I got also from MP, aluminum 8 cavity in 9mm that's marked 358. Also it drops true with my Lee and Lyman molds, so I can't blame alloy.

Just to be 100% clear, this is the lowest point that means as I rotate the bullet and take measurements there are higher points too but I want the lowest point to be bare minimum .358 as this is suppose to be 359 mold.

Also, I just measured couple more samples, they are wrinkle free and good fill out. I got one that measured .3575 at lowest point - OK that's better but next one measured .3564 at the lowest! Yikes! All these measurements again are taken at the top band.

dimaprok
05-30-2021, 04:50 AM
I am also finding the bottom band to be bigger than the top. But I am getting .3585 on the bottom and full contact through the .358 lube/size die. I have resolved to hi-tek this particular bullet rather than lube size in general to get the diameter consistent on all driving bands.

At the bottom band I get about 90 - 95% contact from sizing with 358 die and I understand that bottom is more important but still bummed out about the top being undersized.

KVO
05-30-2021, 02:13 PM
I did a quick test run of my new NLG aluminum today. I have a 4 cavity brass HP from a previous run. The LG solid drops right at 170gr, NLG @181gr same alloy in the pot. Alternating molds casting so about as consistent as I can make the comparison.

dimaprok- I measured drive bands on my older LG bullets and they are tapered like yours, just slightly bigger. Base bands are 0.359" and upper band at or slightly under 0.358". Base of ogive and crimp grooves come in at 0.352-0.3525". Funny enough the new NLG is bigger with the major diameter 0.360" on the dot and the ogive base again smaller @ 0.353". I PC and never thought too much about the undersized front driving band. Was more worried about the small nose but it hasn't shown to be an accuracy detriment in either revolver or lever gun. It's fairly long for caliber bullet as far as pistol bullets go. Hopefully in your case it has a long enough bearing surface that the smaller front band is inconsequential. Shooting at magnum velocities/pressures the LG disappears on mine when using softer alloy on recovered bullets.

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I'll eventually do a side by side comparison shoot of the two and try to get up a range report.

CoolHandMoss
05-30-2021, 10:06 PM
I cast another batch today and found the top band, the smaller one, to be .3580 as a pretty consistent minimum. Full contact 360 in the .358 die on most boolits.

Interesting observation though... This is my first time casting with a hollow point mold. I cast some of the small dome hollow points today and I found that the boolits would stick (not badly or anything) in the side of the mold that did not have the pins attached. When I first saw this I expected the pin to have torn the side of the hollow point in the bullet but not once did I find that. Just geometrically speaking I cannot imagine how the mold half with the pin attached could be opened and the bullet left in the other side with an intact hollow point. I suppose the pointy end just got slightly pulled out enough to allow the pin to pull free but looking at them before they dropped they did not look askew at all. Not a problem, complaint nor concern. Just an observation that made me curious.

Michael J. Spangler
05-30-2021, 10:42 PM
Ran mine today for the first time. Cleaned her up good and heat cycled a few time to build some patina.
As expected it was flawless. Made a couple hundred or so in no time flat. The alloy was basically pure with 1% or so tin added to make for some pretty soft east expanders.
Oh I ran the penta pin.
I really love this mould and I’m definitely going to buy this nose design in other calibers and weights.

Thank you again Lakehouse for running this for us

Stmtrn
06-07-2021, 01:01 AM
Got my mold about 2wks ago and finally had time to work with it. Once cleaned and heat cycled it started giving good clean bullets with the pita point weighting in at 160. Both bands where 358 with wheel lead. I powder coated and sized. All 4 guns tried where giving 1in groups at 25 yards. Darn Marlin rifle gave me a real nice clover leaf. 1 bullet retrieved retained all bullet weight when fired into sandy soil, opening to a dia of .625. This mold is going to be number 1 from know on. Thanks MP for a nice mold.

Bigbore5
06-08-2021, 02:35 AM
Had to have surgery before I got to fire all my work up loads. But as usual the MP mold is throwing perfectly after heat cycling and properly warming up. That's why I have so many of his molds. I own molds by rcbs, Lyman, saeco,arsenal, as,accurate, and lbt as well, but use mp the most.

hollow-point
11-13-2021, 07:14 AM
any 2 or 4 HP available?? marine274@outlook.com

sixshot
11-15-2021, 03:12 AM
If there are any 2 or 4 cavity plain base HP's left I'll take one. Thanks,
sixshot@gmail.com

Prodigal Son
11-20-2021, 01:56 PM
Are there any of this mold still available? Thanks Otis!

jem102
07-02-2022, 11:33 AM
I am in for a 2-cav, brass, all pins and a set of his handles.

jem10 at bellsouth dot net

Sorry, thought this was still active. If not please just drop the request.

Capt.Red.44
07-09-2022, 01:16 PM
I cast up about 300 of these. Dimensions were as stated. Ww+2% tin. I found them to be the perfect LOA for my old colt trooper using the upper crimp groove. Sized .358 and lubed with Carnuba Blue and they shoot very accurately. I ran both the small and Penta pins. Love em. Expansion with the penta was dramatic to say the least. Seen here next to another Miha perfected projectile the 432 HAMM.
Miha, please make a mold for the .458 socom next!!! 500GRn spire point in .458 301925

super6
07-09-2022, 01:52 PM
I waited forever and gave up on getting one of these molds, If your unhappy yours PM me!

Michael J. Spangler
07-09-2022, 08:14 PM
I waited forever and gave up on getting one of these molds, If your unhappy yours PM me!

MIHA had some in his website recently.

kungfustyle
07-09-2022, 09:13 PM
deleated