.22LR Mosin-Nagant

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https://www.alloutdoor.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Mini-Mosin.jpg

https://www.alloutdoor.com/2019/04/29/nra-show-2019-mini-mosin-nagant/

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[Earlwb]

That is quite interesting, Unique to say the least. I expect they will be selling them for a premium as they seem to be including a lot of things to help make the experience even more better.

[lefty o]

$400 for a dressed up cricket, dont think so.

[Hardcast416taylor]

The Mauser or the Springfield `03 - MAYBE. Not this MN. I`ll stick with my 10/22`s.Robert

[BigAlofPa.]

It's ''new''. In time price will drop. And full size versions will come out.

[Mytmousemalibu]

I saw and held one at NRA, super cool LITTLE rifle! Im a MN fan and a half scale version is just neat. They did a great job replicating it. There is a poll going on for the next mini milsurp they make. They have 6-8 different rifles to choose. 03 Springfield, No4 Mk1 Lee, etc. More will be coming.

[El Bibliotecario]

I wish them well in their endeavor, but I find this a curious choice with which to begin their projected series. I would have thought a .22 M1903 rifle would have more sales appeal to Americans, whom I imagine are the only people in the world with the combination of legal access, discretionary income, and craziness to buy something like this.

[RED BEAR]

Why do people always think the mosin is not the equal of other guns they were used for a very long time . They were the gun of some of the best snipers in ww2. What better endorsement can you have.

[JSnover]

The Mauser or the Springfield `03 - MAYBE. Not this MN. I`ll stick with my 10/22`s.Robert

Same here. Ever since I saw a 1/3 scale non-functional 1903 at a gun show in the late 1980s I've wanted a mini Springfield in .22LR

[salpal48]

Original one's were trainers. I have one

[JSnover]

Original one's were trainers. I have one
I think the Germans built some .22 Mausers for the same purpose. Cant remember if it was a scaled-down '98 or just an inexpensive bolt action for the Youth.

[DDriller]

I think the Germans built some .22 Mausers for the same purpose. Cant remember if it was a scaled-down '98 or just an inexpensive bolt action for the Youth.

The .22 German Mauser my dad got during WW2 was definitely not a cheap youth rifle. It was a tack driver and very well made. Sadly some worthless piece of **** broke into his motorhome and stole it.

[Multigunner]

There were some Eastern or Central European .22 caliber training rifles built to mimic the full size Mosin Nagant, though I never saw one with full military type stock set.
The action was way oversized and strong for a .22 LR so when some were found to have worn chambers a company in the USA rechambered these to .22 Winchester Magnum.

Only handled one specimen that the owner of the local surplus store had picked up at a gun show.
Action was perhaps a tad shorter than the full size but very thick walled and heavy for a .22.
I suspect one might alter a M38 short rifle stock set to fit.

BTW
The Czar had two boy sized Mosin Nagant long rifles built for his sons, chambered for the 7.62 Nagant pistol cartridge. Perfect replicas about 3/4 scale.

[303Guy]

I like the idea of the 22 MN. I have an Oberndorf 22 Mauser that my Dad bought as a young man. I was weaned on that rifle. It's not a military clone but it is a pre-war Mauser - the only Mauser I have. I don't have a MN so to me, a mini MN in 22 would be great. It would also be great in 22 hornet.

Funny thing is, I've done a 360 and lean toward iron sights.

[EO1]

A novel idea but I dont see these in production for long, more of a short production run. One only needs to look at that .22 replica StG44 that was made for a short while. And like Lefty sez, $400 is way overboard for a cricket.

[Bigslug]

I wish them well in their endeavor, but I find this a curious choice with which to begin their projected series.

I think it was the first choice because it was probably the easiest. The cocking piece on the back of the Winchester 67 descendant's bolt already looks like a Mosin. All it needed was a straightened bolt handle, and if they wanted to make a replica M.N. sniper, they could keep a turned-down on on it.

The pipe-dream would be the eventual appearance of wee tiny stripper clips, wee tiny bayonets, wee tiny volley sights and a wee tiny mag cutoff on the wee tiny SMLE and P14, wee tiny Lange-Visier sights on a wee tiny Gew 98. . .then we'll probably need a wee tiny French 75mm and a wee tiny Paris Gun. WHERE DOES IT END!!!:veryconfu

Yeah. . .I'd be tempted to play. Y'all remember the Tippman / Lakeside rimfire mini Browning machineguns from way back?

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Get yer roll of caps & yer hobby horse, & you can be a real cowboy! :guntootsmiley:

[EO1]

How much of it is plastic ?
I'm betting at the least, the trigger guard/magazine is.
The description of these on their site is lacking in several details.
I would buy a magazine off the rack if it had an honest review of them.

[Multigunner]

"then we'll probably need a wee tiny French 75mm and a wee tiny Paris Gun. "

Coolest miniature I've seen was a large Japanese artillery and possibly AA gun scaled down to chamber the 11mm Murata cartridge.
It had a very complicated gun mount with optical sighting and range finder with trajectory computer.that was also a perfect functioning replica of the real thing. Every bolt and rivet was reproduced.

[beemer]

There were some Eastern or Central European .22 caliber training rifles built to mimic the full size Mosin Nagant, though I never saw one with full military type stock set.
The action was way oversized and strong for a .22 LR so when some were found to have worn chambers a company in the USA rechambered these to .22 Winchester Magnum.

Only handled one specimen that the owner of the local surplus store had picked up at a gun show.
Action was perhaps a tad shorter than the full size but very thick walled and heavy for a .22.
I suspect one might alter a M38 short rifle stock set to fit.

BTW
The Czar had two boy sized Mosin Nagant long rifles built for his sons, chambered for the 7.62 Nagant pistol cartridge. Perfect replicas about 3/4 scale.

I think they were Polish trainers, looked a lot like a M44 and were well made. Most of what I saw were a little rough with frosty bores. I did pick out a fairly decent one and it shot really well. Should have kept it as I think the price went out of sight.
Dave

[1Hawkeye]

Yep beemer they were polish model 29 training rifles.

[EO1]

I think they were Polish trainers, looked a lot like a M44 and were well made. Most of what I saw were a little rough with frosty bores. I did pick out a fairly decent one and it shot really well. Should have kept it as I think the price went out of sight.
Dave

WZ-48. And yes, prices have gone WAY outta sight in the past few years.

[Life Member]

Very cool

[FPGT72]

WZ-48. And yes, prices have gone WAY outta sight in the past few years.

They are really fun little rifles, and shoot pretty darn well....they are also a bit porky.

I really don't have an issue with this new offering.....

Let me ask you one question, your grand kid sees you out shooting your old mosin, and you can tell he is interested. He wants a gun like you have. So what do you do.....well you can go buy him a "normal" kid rifle, and run the risk that it will not take as it is not "cool" like your rifle is, or do you drop the few hundred and have a bigger chance of getting that 5yr old hooked on shooting for the rest of their life. To me it is worth $400 to put something in the hands of a kid that he really wants to shoot.

[Bigslug]

I really don't have an issue with this new offering.....

Let me ask you one question, your grand kid sees you out shooting your old mosin, and you can tell he is interested. He wants a gun like you have. So what do you do.....well you can go buy him a "normal" kid rifle, and run the risk that it will not take as it is not "cool" like your rifle is, or do you drop the few hundred and have a bigger chance of getting that 5yr old hooked on shooting for the rest of their life. To me it is worth $400 to put something in the hands of a kid that he really wants to shoot.

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As far as I've been able to piece together, my Granddad ran around Northern France in 1944 spotting for artillery with an '03-A3 in hand. One of my favorite toys as a kid was a mockup Springfield that had a gold painted wooden "cartridge" that nested inside the hollow bolt and sprung forward when you pulled the bolt back. The visual effect - to a kid - was that you were really feeding a round. I got to run around sniping Nazis with my Grandfather's rifle - or close enough for the purposes of a 9-year old.

I'm not sure who the current crop of elementary school kids idolizes, but convincing kid versions of the adult toys - not a bad idea.