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Willbird
04-01-2005, 05:06 PM
William E. Danielson III

I hereby offer to Honcho this deal when we get it all hammered out, No big hurry we have other deals going.

The general idea is a 240-250 grain plain based single grease groove round nose flat point to actually cast .434 in WW


Bill

45 2.1
04-01-2005, 06:32 PM
http://www.hunt101.com/img/270373-big.JPG

First crimp groove for the 44 mag rifles
Second crimp groove for the 444 Marlin
Third crimp groove for anything else

Dutch4122
04-01-2005, 09:15 PM
Alright then! I'll step up and commit for the purchase of 2 of these molds. :D

Anybody else :?: :wink:

45 2.1
04-01-2005, 09:43 PM
45 2.1 (1)
willbird (2)
sundog (1 or 2)
Tom Myers (1)
Dutch4122 (2)
buck1 (1)
TCLouis (1)
JohnH (1)
Tpr Bret (?)

JSH
04-02-2005, 11:17 AM
If you would bump it to a 280 to 300 grains I would bite.
Jeff

buck1
04-03-2005, 02:03 AM
I'm in for 1. :D Let me know how much and where/when to send it! :?: ....Buck

Willbird
04-05-2005, 09:21 AM
We're collecting input on this, it will not reach 25 or more I think until the other group buys on pistol boolits are well underway. I myself do not desire a 280-300 grain boolit, those are already avail, altho not in .434 dia.

TCLouis
04-05-2005, 06:49 PM
Is there any reason this has to cast to 0.434"?
Isn't 0.431-0.32" big enough for most any 44?

Willbird
04-06-2005, 09:56 PM
I dunno about almost any 44, mine happens to be .4325 or so, it is an early ruger redhawk 44 magnum.

Bret4207
04-08-2005, 08:25 AM
TCLouis- Better to have it a couple thousandths over to take care of the fat chambers/throats/bores than too skinny (Lyman-itis) and have a mould that makes patterns instead of groups. I may be in for one.

Willbird
04-08-2005, 02:00 PM
And I could have said a bit more than I did.

Lee from what I read runs on the small side of what you ask for, and with a Star Lubesizer you want .001" to size down so the lube doesn't leak around the boolit.

so those two things combined helped us arrive at asking Lee for .434 dia

TCLouis
04-09-2005, 09:34 AM
OK, I'm in for one I love to watch bullets pile up out of a 6 cavity mold!

JohnH
04-09-2005, 09:49 AM
Put me down for one, my NEF has a .432 barrel, this would be ideal for it. Could we keep the weight cloer to 250 and give a little larger meplat, like .30-.35?

Willbird
04-10-2005, 09:06 PM
Both of those changes will not hurt what I want to do with it, but the lever gun guys have to kick in their input on the meplet change.



Bill

BlueSmoke
04-18-2005, 09:55 PM
:grin: Count me in for (1) of the custom moulds. Sounds like great all around shooter.

BlueSmoke

Willbird
04-19-2005, 09:09 AM
It looks like so far we have (16) molds spoken for, from talking to John Ross if folks would like more narrower grease grooves spaced for the Star Sizer I am all for that.

Bill

Dutch4122
04-19-2005, 08:24 PM
I'm happy with the design as is. Just my $.02 :)

Ol'Scudder
04-22-2005, 09:41 AM
Please put me down for one of the molds. The proposed grease-groove changes won't bother me, nor will increasing the meplat to .340 or so.

Or - the original configuration would be fine - - - - -

buck1
04-22-2005, 02:34 PM
I'm fine with the changes as well.....Buck

felix
04-22-2005, 03:39 PM
Put me down for 1, but keep the version as is. Getting that meplat too wide will cause feeding problems with lever guns designed for the 44 cartridge as is for a pistol. Some Winnie levers might have the long throw action meant for true rifle cartridges, and that action length can tolerate a wider meplat and longer boolit. But, let's don't take chances for those of us having the true pistol length actions, like what the Ruger carbines have, be it lever, bolt, or auto. The meplat cannot be over what the normal jacketed boolits are set at for this cartridge. I know that for a FACT. This is Ruger's way of saying factory cartridges only for these guns. Actually, these short throw actions are good for fun, however limited in ammo design. ... felix

Willbird
04-22-2005, 04:04 PM
MROliver77 did point out that this boolit here looks pretty close to what we are talking about.

http://www.beartoothbullets.com/open_sight/archive_open_sight.htm/8

Lyman doesnt advert that boolit as running that big tho and with my luck I would get one that runs .429 and the lyman and handles and mold cost quite a bit more too

Bill

Ol'Scudder
04-22-2005, 09:28 PM
Thanks for the information Felix - about the meplat width, my concern was only with the 444 Marlin and Super Blackhawk since i don't own a 44 Marlin.
I hope to remedy this shortcoming soon.

Dutch4122
05-06-2005, 11:35 AM
Geez, we seemed to have run out of steam all of a sudden:(

I sure hope that interest hasn't died out too quick on this one. Sure seems like a boolit that could work in almost anything .44 caliber.

Anybody else interested?

45 2.1
05-06-2005, 07:23 PM
MROliver77 did point out that this boolit here looks pretty close to what we are talking about.

http://www.beartoothbullets.com/open_sight/archive_open_sight.htm/8

Lyman doesnt advert that boolit as running that big tho and with my luck I would get one that runs .429 and the lyman and handles and mold cost quite a bit more too

Bill

It should look like it, the nose was a copy of that bullet.

Dutch, all Bill has to do is open it up for ordering.

buck1
05-09-2005, 01:13 AM
So I guess we are at 18?? so far. I check back about once a week , just so I dont miss the boat..............buck

Willbird
05-09-2005, 06:48 AM
Yep I am still interested, There are and were so many other group buys running tho that I thought we'd bide our time.

I would be nice to get to 25

Bill

45 2.1
05-09-2005, 07:52 PM
It hasn't been advertised on other boards yet.

Dutch4122
05-09-2005, 09:51 PM
It hasn't been advertised on other boards yet.

Good point. I'm sure that will bring the number up to 25 or more.

Willbird, in thinking it over you are right. We might be smart to wait on this one a little while til the dust settles down on the other group buys.

Didn't mean to jump the gun. Just didn't want to see this one get lost in the shuffle.;)

fatnhappy
05-09-2005, 11:36 PM
Make it 19, I'm in for 1 as long as it's a 6 banger.

Rrusse11
05-10-2005, 01:47 AM
#20; just keepin' it as drawn, Felix is spot on with the meplat size,
and my Marlins will feed the full length. After gettin' the Casull in a M1894, I'm tempted to try a similar length case in a 44, cut down some of the 445 brass I got to ~ 1.38. The variety of crimps will be good to juggle with.
Cheers,
R*2

Bass Ackward
05-10-2005, 06:31 AM
I am still pondering one of these. I never spoke up because I don't have a lot of experience with multiple length designs, but it seems to me that getting fillout in all 6 cavities might be a problem in an aluminum block.

.130 to divide up 3 crimp grooves may just weaken and take away from the drive band strength. I would think that this would be of little concern in the rifles, but wonder how wheelers with slight alignment issues would hold up.

Anyone got experience on this?

Willbird
05-10-2005, 06:45 AM
My interest is purely for revolvers, as most know there isnt anything off the shelf out there big enough to fit Mr. Rugers 44-1/2 magnum Redhawks...as wellas lots of other guns with 44-1/2 magnum cylinders.....I was willing to ride along with the extra crimp grooves to get a boolit that would fit the gun.


Bill

Bass Ackward
05-10-2005, 07:39 AM
My interest is purely for revolvers, as most know there isnt anything off the shelf out there big enough to fit Mr. Rugers 44-1/2 magnum Redhawks...as wellas lots of other guns with 44-1/2 magnum cylinders.....I was willing to ride along with the extra crimp grooves to get a boolit that would fit the gun. Bill

Bill,

Well, I can't say with any certainty, but at the very least, it would have to be as hard as possible. Elmer said that with his mix, (10 BHN) that it took .100 of lead to straighten out a crimp. This is minimal comparred to impact force. Personally, I think .100 is a little high for the crimp, but minimum for a drive band especially since this is not a GC design.

So with the drive band being made up mostly of free space from crimp groove, the overall velocity potential is also going to be diminished, even if the alignment strength is not an issue. This will probably be more of a negative for the rifle guys since they are going to get velocity no matter how far down they load it because of barrel length anyway.

And if I am right on the velocity restriction, then 38 twists will be at a real disadvantage because the other component to stabilization is velocity.

Sure would appreciate some opinion from others.

waksupi
05-10-2005, 08:08 AM
How much dinero for this one? I may be in.

Dutch4122
05-10-2005, 08:26 AM
I believe we are looking at a cost of $50 per mold with $6 shipping & handling. Anybody feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's what I paid for the last two custom Lee 6 bangers that I got in on.

45 2.1
05-10-2005, 06:12 PM
I am still pondering one of these. I never spoke up because I don't have a lot of experience with multiple length designs, but it seems to me that getting fillout in all 6 cavities might be a problem in an aluminum block.

.130 to divide up 3 crimp grooves may just weaken and take away from the drive band strength. I would think that this would be of little concern in the rifles, but wonder how wheelers with slight alignment issues would hold up.

Anyone got experience on this?

BA-
I remember a 45 bullet of yours that was alot of lube groove and a little of bearing surface. What brought on your question? Add up the bearing length and compare it to a keith bullet.

Willbird
05-10-2005, 06:38 PM
if we get 25 or more yes it will be 56.00 shipped for each mold. If we got 100 it would go down to 41.00 shipped I belive.

Bill

kenjuudo
05-10-2005, 08:19 PM
I'm in for one, don't think there will be a fillout problem, the BD45 six banger casts fine.

jim

Bass Ackward
05-10-2005, 08:30 PM
BA- I remember a 45 bullet of yours that was alot of lube groove and a little of bearing surface. What brought on your question? Add up the bearing length and compare it to a kieth bullet.

Bob,

I brought this up because I am considering one of these.

The bearing length was never questioned. The bullet design is very basic and technically sound. I took quite a while here to review what I wanted to say and it has been expressed.

My only concerns are the absence of a strong frontal drive band to survive impact for revolvers. And mold fillout in aluminum blocks which affects the drive band even more.

I do know that it is hard to get fillout in "aluminum blocks" with bands narrower than .050 - .060. and larger is always better no matter how hot the mix. The crimp bands can't be over .025.

"IF" .... you don't get fillout, then you won't have the bearing area you have designed on paper.

Since Lee is lathe boring this, and they must program for all three grooves anyway. Maybe they would consider making this design cutting just one or two of three crimp grooves at the locations where you currently have them designed. Less machining for them unless folks request all three. With two you have wider bands for fillout and .... less risk. Worth asking anyway.

45 2.1
05-10-2005, 09:17 PM
Wrong, the ogive is full diameter at the front crimp groove and bears as much as a normal band (0.067"). The full diameter between crimp grooves (0.020"+the slope distance on the crimp groove) is more than their tumble lube flat dimensions. We have others with about the same dimensions and they work fine.

Bass Ackward
05-11-2005, 05:45 AM
Wrong, the ogive is full diameter at the front crimp groove and bears as much as a normal band (0.067").

We have others with about the same dimensions and they work fine.

Bob & Bill,

The last statement was what I wanted to hear. I know Loverns are comparible .... for rifles. Just never saw a handgun bullet similar No matter.

Still .... it wouldn't hurt to ask Lee about crimp groove options and see what they say. I can call them with the hypothetical if their number is listed on their site.

Willbird
05-12-2005, 09:21 AM
I am totally in support of asking them about the crimp grooves...I'd rather myself have a boolit with a front driving band that would make Elmer Keith happy, but if I have to accept less-than that to get something thit fits the 44-1/2 cylinder throats I will.

Bill

Bass Ackward
05-12-2005, 12:19 PM
I am totally in support of asking them about the crimp grooves...I'd rather myself have a boolit with a front driving band that would make Elmer Keith happy, but if I have to accept less-than that to get something thit fits the 44-1/2 cylinder throats I will.

Bill

Bill,

I talked to them and there is absolutlely no flexibility period. So I guess it is as is.

But my new Redhawk is only around .432. Probably about .4325 after it smooths up, so I have some flexibility to size should I .... not be able to get complete fillout.

Willbird
05-12-2005, 12:44 PM
Yea I always come back to the fact that we should be gratefull they even talk to us about these special molds.

Bill

TCLouis
05-12-2005, 10:05 PM
Just kinda nosey and antsy . . .
When we gonna get the money moving on this one so "we" can get the order in. I have a use for this bullet this summer if the order works out!

fatnhappy
05-12-2005, 10:40 PM
Just kinda nosey and antsy . . .
When we gonna get the money moving on this one so "we" can get the order in. I have a use for this bullet this summer if the order works out!


I posted a link to this thread over at another BB I mod, and sent links to a couple guys that might be interested. I say we set a date for taking orders far enough out so the linksters can get a chance to ante up. :grin:

Willbird
05-13-2005, 06:42 AM
Sure if we can kick it past 25 molds we will be good to go. This is going to be a nice boolit I think.

Bill

Bodydoc447
05-14-2005, 09:46 AM
I'm in for one. Please let me know when and where to send the denero.

Tom

Springfield
05-15-2005, 05:43 PM
I will take 2 if the 25 moulds number is reached. mwwhyte@verizon.net

Willbird
05-15-2005, 07:19 PM
45 2.1 (1)
willbird (1 or 2)
sundog (1 or 2)
Tom Myers (1)
Dutch4122 (2)
buck1 (1)
TCLouis (1)
JohnH (1)
Tpr Bret (?)
Bluesmoke (1)
Ol' Scudder (1)
Felix (1)
fatnhappy (1)
Rrussel11 (1)
Kenjudo (1)
Bass Ackward (1)
Bodydoc 447 (1)
Springfield (2)


please correct any errors or omissions but I see 20-22 molds comitted.

Bill

waksupi
05-15-2005, 07:43 PM
I'm in for one.

alamogunr
05-15-2005, 09:19 PM
I would like to get in on this one too. Can't find an address to sent check to.
Point me in the right direction and a check will go out tomorrow.
Thanks,
John

Willbird
05-15-2005, 09:47 PM
John, we have not opened for orders yet, we are close tho.

45 2.1 (1)
willbird (1 or 2)
sundog (1 or 2)
Tom Myers (1)
Dutch4122 (2)
buck1 (1)
TCLouis (1)
JohnH (1)
Tpr Bret (?)
Bluesmoke (1)
Ol' Scudder (1)
Felix (1)
fatnhappy (1)
Rrussel11 (1)
Kenjudo (1)
Bass Ackward (1)
Bodydoc 447 (1)
Springfield (2)
alamogunr (1)
Waksupi (1)

thats got us to 24

Bill

Willbird
05-15-2005, 09:48 PM
Once we hit 25 confirmed I will post the address and get a hard copy blueprint on the way here, then we will start the 3 week timer to get checks in.

It's gonna be real quicklike here tho it looks like.

Bill

Willbird
05-15-2005, 09:56 PM
If somebody would like to host the drawing and provide a link I will post this to the cast bullet list, I'm told the admin does not allow links to here ;-)

I post a link to this thread on the subguns.com reloading board.

Bill

13Echo
05-15-2005, 10:08 PM
OK, I want one. Add me to the list.

Jerry Liles

Willbird
05-15-2005, 10:15 PM
45 2.1 (1)
willbird (1 or 2)
sundog (1 or 2)
Tom Myers (1)
Dutch4122 (2)
buck1 (1)
TCLouis (1)
JohnH (1)
Tpr Bret (?)
Bluesmoke (1)
Ol' Scudder (1)
Felix (1)
fatnhappy (1)
Rrussel11 (1)
Kenjudo (1)
Bass Ackward (1)
Bodydoc 447 (1)
Springfield (2)
alamogunr (1)
Waksupi (1)
13Echo (1)

well that looks like we got the 25, if anybody is listed and does not want to be please yell, but we are going to start the timer tomorrow.

Bill

13Echo
05-16-2005, 08:16 PM
Where do we send the check?????

Willbird
05-16-2005, 08:40 PM
The Timer starts today, I will take checks for 3 weeks starting today.

please IM me for the address to send the check to


Bill

Dutch4122
05-17-2005, 04:35 PM
Bill-

Check in the mail this afternoon for 2 molds.

Thanks for your effort heading up this deal!

Willbird
05-17-2005, 07:00 PM
Everybody is more than welcome, thanks everybody for jumping on the bandwagon, and thanks to 452.1 for the drawing.

Bill

Bass Ackward
05-18-2005, 12:46 PM
Everybody is more than welcome, thanks everybody for jumping on the bandwagon, and thanks to 452.1 for the drawing.

Bill

Bill,

I just noticed that the bullet diameter or depth of the grease groove and the angle of the cut is not specified on that drawing. They are probably going to ask that. My Keith measures .390 just so you know. I don't think we want to go below that. I don't care what the angle is as long as it isn't 90 degrees because they get to be a bear to get out when you have 6.

Willbird
05-18-2005, 12:55 PM
452.1 has not sent me the final drawing yet, I hope he sees this.

Bill

Starrbow
05-19-2005, 12:39 AM
Count me in on one of the moulds......thanks..................Marko

Willbird
05-19-2005, 09:14 AM
You are welcome, when I have a few checks in hand I will start a "checks recieved" thread and up date it as they come in. As usual I will hold the checks until the ordering closes, then deposit them. anybody that has a change of heart or an emergency prior to the order going in can have their check back.


Bill

Jeremiahm
05-19-2005, 09:29 AM
I haven't seen a cost in this thread for this mold? How many cavity is it going to be? I suppose it's going to be aluminum from Lee?

You guys sizing this bullet, where are buying your .433 size dies?

Jeremiahm
05-19-2005, 09:54 AM
I also see that this is a 6 six cavity.

Sorry, I'm new to the board, I didn't see that there was more than one page to this thread.

Also, where are all of you getting your .433 sizing dies? The cost for the die would be worth considering for me in order for me to decide if I would want to purchase a mold.

Thanks for your help.

Willbird
05-19-2005, 01:01 PM
I keep losing track of the pages too hehe.

These will run $56.00 per mold shipped to your door, if you want in you can send me an instant message and I will provide the address.

I bought my .432 sizer die from Magma, the mfg. of the Star Lube Sizer.

Stillwell tool and die will open up a .429 if you want, or I think make you a whole new one at .432 for the other types of lube sizer.

Lee will make customs too, and with the group buy there might be other guys interested too (not sure if there is a group buy savings on sizers or not)

Bill

Jeremiahm
05-19-2005, 01:14 PM
I'd be interested in what a size die for a lyman 450 would cost me before I buy a mold. If you find anything out on the subject, let me know.

Thanks.

Bass Ackward
05-19-2005, 06:31 PM
I'd be interested in what a size die for a lyman 450 would cost me before I buy a mold. If you find anything out on the subject, let me know.

Thanks.

Jer,

Mine cost me $20.00 as I already had a Lyman sizing die. Here was the guy who did it.

http://www.sizingdie.com)/

Starrbow
05-19-2005, 07:42 PM
Would you please e-mail us were to send the funds.
.............................................Thank s.....Marko

buck1
05-20-2005, 12:32 AM
Willbird This is my first group buy and first lee mold also ,so before i buy the handles..... This is a lee 6 cav?? Do I make the money ord payable to you or Lee??
Thanks... Buck
PS I will get the money order out as soon as I read the reply. :D

Willbird
05-20-2005, 06:45 AM
Please make the check out to me, a check is just fine, I will hold them all until shortly before the order goes in, then deposit them.

Yes this is a Lee 6 cavity, it takes the normal Lee 6 cavity handles

Bill

Willbird
05-20-2005, 06:47 AM
To anybody that is checking in here and did not read all the earlier posts, please sent me an instant message thru the board by clicking on my name, I will then send you the snail address, my phone number, and email addy.



Bill

sundog
05-20-2005, 08:47 AM
Ya know, it just struck me that the real deal here for Lee is not making all these special project moulds..., I be they're making a freaking fortune on the 6 gang handles. Think about it.... sundog

buck1
05-20-2005, 02:38 PM
I already bought the money order, I have used these before and you should have no trouble with it. I will get it out on my way back to work today. ...buck

13Echo
05-21-2005, 12:25 PM
Checks in the mail today.

Jerry Liles

TCLouis
05-22-2005, 05:50 PM
I'm with 13ECHO . . . . Wher do we send the check?

Willbird
05-22-2005, 06:06 PM
Once again Guy's and Gal's, please PM (private message) me for the address, that way you have the addy , my email, and my home phone number at hand for future referance. Also I would rather not have my home address plastered all over the web.

thanks

Bill

TCLouis
05-26-2005, 01:08 AM
Once again Guy's and Gal's, please PM (private message) me for the address, that way you have the addy , my email, and my home phone number at hand for future referance. Also I would rather not have my home address plastered all over the web.

thanks

Bill
After posting that msg, I logged in and found that you had posted a snail mail.
Ooooops my BAD!

As the corny old saying goes, "The check is in the mail."

jeff223
05-26-2005, 10:29 AM
im kind of interested in this mold.how fast could you push this boolit with out problems?i see it doesnt have a gas check

Willbird
05-26-2005, 06:09 PM
There are others more qualified to say than I Jeff, but I have pushed plain based 429421 Ly-Keith's sized to fit the throats 1500fps in a redhawk without leading.

Bill

Dutch4122
05-26-2005, 09:06 PM
I've seen it mentioned before on this forum (maybe by Buckshot?) that you can seat an upside down gas check in the case before seating a plain based boolit. IIRC higher velocities/pressures were possible without leading. I think he was using this "reverse gas check" in the .444 Marlin with a 270 grn plain based boolit.

Can anybody confirm or deny this?

Scrounger
05-26-2005, 09:20 PM
I've seen it mentioned before on this forum (maybe by Buckshot?) that you can seat an upside down gas check in the case before seating a plain based boolit. IIRC higher velocities/pressures were possible without leading. I think he was using this "reverse gas check" in the .444 Marlin with a 270 grn plain based boolit.

Can anybody confirm or deny this?

I think I'd be afraid of ringing my chamber with that set up unless the powder came up to the base of the bullet. I'd be more comfortable with the so called "soft gas check", or even the kapok/dacron tuft. By the way, got a full bag of dacron at a yard sale Saturday. Price is hard to say... I picked out two sets of glasses, a one gallon pitcher, two large baking pans, and the dacron. She said $2 for all of it.

Bass Ackward
05-26-2005, 09:56 PM
I've seen it mentioned before on this forum (maybe by Buckshot?) that you can seat an upside down gas check in the case before seating a plain based boolit. IIRC higher velocities/pressures were possible without leading. I think he was using this "reverse gas check" in the .444 Marlin with a 270 grn plain based boolit.

Can anybody confirm or deny this?

Matt,

I have used the upside down check routine. Even with GC bullets. There are all sorts of tricks. Those affect pressure control upon ignition. But pressure is not the velocity limiter to a PB bullet, because you can go to way slower powders and still have problems.

You often hear that the base is the steering wheel of the bullet. Well, while the bullet goes up through the bore, rotational forces are being shared by the entire length of the bearing area. When that bullet starts to leave the barrel, the base is the last part to clear and it must be able to withstand the last rotational force without stripping. Or the seal is lost. That's where a tight fitting GC pays dividends. Not just containing pressure. That's also why ol timers used to make wide base bands on PB bullets to try and improve the strength as much as possible.

The inverted check might help over other methods, but not by enough to justify cost. The best way to utilize a check is still turned around and clamped to the base.

StarMetal
05-26-2005, 10:31 PM
Except when Joe was shooting his 7mm-08 cast 135 gr bullets 2700 fps into one inch groups with not only no leading in the barrel, but actually as clean and shiney barrel as using jacketed, using a crimped on gas check and another inverted gas check loaded right behind the bullet into the case.

Bass is right though that using them on flat base bullet isn't worth the cost of the checks. You'd be better off cutting disc from one gallon milk jugs, at least they don't cost you anything but your time.

Joe

Dutch4122
05-27-2005, 10:40 PM
Thanks for settin' me straight on the "reverse gas check" thing. Maybe some experimenting with the milk jug checks might be in order down the road.

Do you use the wax/cardboard material from the 1 quart containers or the plastic from the gallon containers?

StarMetal
05-27-2005, 11:04 PM
Dutch

The first plastic discs I used were cut from the lid of the Maxwell house coffee cans. I used them mainly in handgun loads. I used an old shell case that wasn't any good for loading anymore for the punch. I placed the disc on top of the flared mouth and then seated the bullet to make sure the disc is right up against the base of the bullet. Do not place the disc atop the powder. The clear or milky color milk jugs would make good discs. You can try some, as they are free, and see what you think.

Joe

Buckshot
05-28-2005, 05:18 AM
............Those coffee can lids are LDPE, low density poly-ethlene (I htink that's spelled right) and I forget the recycle number. The BPCR shooters have been using the LDPE wads for quite some time now. Supposed to squish out radialy behind the boolit when it sees the big light!

...............Buckshot

Willbird
05-28-2005, 07:48 AM
Also on the reverse gas checks, I tried that once and no harm came of it, the crimp on checks fit the ctg. case very tight, they would not move from the bas of the bullet in a straight walled case.

what they do to pressures seated backwards I do not know, I never heard of the idea til I tried it, it makes sense that every other reloader would think of it too :-)

Bill

StarMetal
05-28-2005, 11:30 AM
When I used the reverse gas check in my hot 7mm-08 loads I sized them first before inserting them. Mine went in straight.

Joe

Willbird
06-27-2005, 08:14 PM
Lets bring this back up top due to questions

cabezaverde
08-03-2005, 08:31 AM
Did this buy ever happen ? If so, anyone interested in a second round ?

Willbird
08-03-2005, 02:30 PM
The order has been in to Lee now for (3) weeks. I keep watching for the Brown Truck :-)


Bill

cabezaverde
08-03-2005, 02:52 PM
Rats - Did anyone order an extra they want to get rid of ?

Willbird
08-04-2005, 05:05 PM
Molds are here, I will cast a few to double check that everything is fine, and ship them out

Bill