View Full Version : What is this? Found at yard sale...
Steve77
04-23-2019, 09:01 PM
Any help ID'ing this? So this must have a pretty specific purpose, and as a picker/treasure hunter I couldn't pass it up for $2. I am pretty sure it is valuable to the right person. It is marked "316", which I assume is the type of stainless steel it is made from.Another mark in the casting says "T10J48".
$5 bill for size reference.
https://i.imgur.com/G4xx8Ls.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Oqwkt0Y.jpg
Winger Ed.
04-23-2019, 09:08 PM
Not sure what it was made for, but it'd be a great mud anchor for a fishing boat.
So fancy in fact, I'd be afraid to use it instead of a cinder block
just in case I snagged and lost it.
Hickory
04-23-2019, 09:09 PM
Boat anchor!
ascast
04-23-2019, 09:10 PM
boat anchor/ mud sand
LUCKYDAWG13
04-23-2019, 09:10 PM
2 dollar conversation piece
dangitgriff
04-23-2019, 09:15 PM
Boat anchor that belonged to either Jesus or John (3:16).[emoji848][emoji51]
poppy42
04-23-2019, 09:22 PM
It’s a boat anchor specifically for mud or sand
fatelk
04-23-2019, 09:33 PM
It's an early production Hi-Point, otherwise known as a boat anchor!
Steve77
04-23-2019, 09:52 PM
I'm curious why it wasn't cast as a single piece. The crossbar is a separate piece that is either pinned or set screwed in place. Seems like unnecessary cost from a production perspective.
Ozark mike
04-23-2019, 09:55 PM
Whatever you want it to be jk
Mississippi mud anchor
salpal48
04-23-2019, 10:18 PM
It is the top most piece For an elevator sensor . installed in the Shaftway
JimB..
04-23-2019, 10:38 PM
Why machine that rim for a boat anchor? Why make it from stainless and with two arms and a cross bar? I’m probably wrong, but I think it wasn’t made to be a boat anchor.
salpal48
04-23-2019, 10:47 PM
The first picture Is the Correct way up. the rod for the Sensor touch the round bottom
Tom W.
04-23-2019, 11:55 PM
Shop Ash tray?
Texas by God
04-24-2019, 12:29 AM
Whatever you want it to be jk
Mississippi mud anchorMmmm, you said Mississippi Mud. I love that cake!
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tomme boy
04-24-2019, 12:39 AM
That is NOT an anchor. It could be used as one but not what it was originally made as.
corbinace
04-24-2019, 12:42 AM
Salpal may be right, kind of similar use as a two block on a crane.
salpal48
04-24-2019, 08:38 AM
Between 1900 and 1950 hand operator elevators were in use. and had a human operator. sensors were on The cables. as the elevator rose or lowered . the sensor would hit the round shape dome and send a signal to the operator with a red Light to tell him he was approaching the next floor . a very simple system
dangitgriff
04-24-2019, 11:01 AM
Looks like zirk fittings were once on the cross-bar, I see holes there.
waksupi
04-24-2019, 11:44 AM
I think it's a shimdiddiwe.
Steve77
04-24-2019, 11:55 AM
It is the top most piece For an elevator sensor . installed in the Shaftway
Seriously?
Steve77
04-24-2019, 11:57 AM
Between 1900 and 1950 hand operator elevators were in use. and had a human operator. sensors were on The cables. as the elevator rose or lowered . the sensor would hit the round shape dome and send a signal to the operator with a red Light to tell him he was approaching the next floor . a very simple system
i'm curious why it would be made of stainless steel instead of iron or brass?
Steve77
04-24-2019, 12:06 PM
Looks like zirk fittings were once on the cross-bar, I see holes there.
Those are hex head set screws.
Steve77
04-24-2019, 12:12 PM
So, I did a little more inspection on this thing.
On the top of the casting where the horizontal bar passes through, there are hex head set screws.
Also the shaft is keywayed into the casting. Also there is a through hole on the opposite end that goes through the casting and the bar.
Also there are hundreds of dents and dings near the end with the through hole. It would appear that it has been struck with a hammer a LOT!
https://i.imgur.com/qmdc8WL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/erCxes9.jpg
That would make a great cigar ash tray!
--Wag--
Steve77
04-24-2019, 05:33 PM
Alright, a fella on another forum seems to have solved the puzzle. It looks to be a repurposed part from a large ball valve!
https://i.imgur.com/4IxTl4v.jpg
Winger Ed.
04-24-2019, 05:39 PM
That would explain it.
If not one from that company, maybe one of their competitors.
And the little loop on top of the 'handle' looks like it was welded on in some bodys garage or barn.
A factory weld would look much smoother, and not have the over penetration or slag left on it.
rancher1913
04-24-2019, 06:06 PM
not part of a ball valve in any way. I would do a little research on what salpal said it was.
Steve77
04-24-2019, 07:06 PM
not part of a ball valve in any way. I would do a little research on what salpal said it was.
I spent half an hour looking at cutaway drawings, pictures and renderings of large industrial segmented ball valves. I absolutely believe that is what this is. The segmented ball valve stopper isn't shaped like a traditional ball valve stopper.
Here is a link to google images that will show many different brands that are extremely similar:
https://www.google.com/search?q=segmented+ball+valve+cutaway&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjM1s686-nhAhVRXK0KHRpRAF0Q_AUIDygC&biw=1366&bih=625
RU shooter
04-24-2019, 07:13 PM
I think it's a shimdiddiwe.
I was gonna say a thingamabob
Winger Ed.
04-24-2019, 07:46 PM
I was gonna say a thingamabob
I don't know,,,,,,,,,, upon further contemplation, it looks more like a hutus to me.
Hannibal
04-24-2019, 08:11 PM
It's one of 'them there thangs'.
tommag
04-24-2019, 08:27 PM
I was thinking it might be an Asperly Aimless trigger counter weight.
fatelk
04-24-2019, 08:47 PM
It's hard to tell from the photo, but it looks like the ring around the bottom is a machined surface?
If so, that would lead me to believe that it was originally part of some kind of valve or plug, that and the keyway in the shaft.
salpal48
04-24-2019, 09:05 PM
Otis elevator Sensor
please note where the Sensor scraps in the center to send the signal
rancher1913
04-24-2019, 09:06 PM
look a little closer at the part that moves in your valve photo, it has no lip. your item has a lip that would inhibit making a seal. I have taken goobs of the type of valve in your link apart and although your item looks close, all of the ones that I have dissembled all have a smooth ball with no lip, when the valve opens and closes it has to have a smooth surface for the seal to work with. I could be out in left field but I dont think so.
tomme boy
04-24-2019, 09:15 PM
I have installed 1000's of ball valves of every sort from 3/8 to 12" and this is NOT a part of one
OldBearHair
04-24-2019, 09:21 PM
I'm with salpal48 unless something a whole lot better than a ball valve comes along. Anyway ball valves do not have the raised ridge above the rounded surface at the outer edge. IMO only.
OldBearHair
04-24-2019, 09:25 PM
Also sort of liked Waksupi's word shimdiddiwe. Big LOL
fatelk
04-24-2019, 09:44 PM
I'm with salpal48 unless something a whole lot better than a ball valve comes along. Anyway ball valves do not have the raised ridge above the rounded surface at the outer edge. IMO only.
I've seen and worked on a lot of different types of valves and actuators, from cryogenic ball valves to huge, stainless steel, high purity butterfly valves, and have never seen anything in any of them that looked like that either. BUT, there's also a lot of stuff I haven't seen. I just thought that the front ring looked like a machined sealing surface of some kind, which would indicate some sort of valve or plug application.
Whatever it was, I think it's an anchor now. :)
fatelk
04-24-2019, 09:52 PM
When I said that the machined surface looked like it could be a valve application, I wasn't referring to a ball valve, myself. It just reminds me a little of the sealing surface of an engine valve. What kind of valve-type application I absolutely haven't a clue, and I'm probably totally off-base, just a thought based on appearance.
fiberoptik
04-24-2019, 11:36 PM
It’s a doohickey!
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Ozark mike
04-25-2019, 01:06 AM
I think we can all agree that it ain't what it used to be it will become something else now and now it is apparently a conversation piece
Steve77
04-25-2019, 11:58 AM
Resembles this particular model to me:
https://www.jandsvalve.com/pdf08/JSV%20Ball%20Valve%20-%20Segmented%20Metal%20Seated%20-%206%20-%2072%20%20Brochure%208%20Pages.pdf
Thundarstick
04-25-2019, 12:08 PM
More likely a large swinging check valve, hince the one mating surface.
Conditor22
04-25-2019, 12:12 PM
Looks like T10?48 SN
myg30
04-28-2019, 11:04 AM
Seems to have a ground seat area about 45deg. , and ground OD, with a hook on pivot arm, made of stainless steel some said,...
My guess is a big drain plug ! Maybe hooked to a float arm.
Sewer treatment plant ? Big toilet bowl
Mike
Traffer
04-28-2019, 01:12 PM
It was something at one time (probably elevator sensor as that is hard to argue against) but has had the "handle" crudely welded on to apparently create a darn good (although overly complex) boat anchor for muddy or sandy bottoms.
Thundarstick
04-28-2019, 01:12 PM
Seems to have a ground seat area about 45deg. , and ground OD, with a hook on pivot arm, made of stainless steel some said,...
My guess is a big drain plug ! Maybe hooked to a float arm.
Sewer treatment plant ? Big toilet bowl
Mike
And! That's exactly how a floating check valve works! Unlike a ball valve that rotates around a pivot and must be smooth all way around. The floating check valve uses a back and forth motion so it only needs the sealing edge machined. Think of the flapper in your toilet, and do some searches for visual. However, it's a dandy boat anchor now, we used a piston with the connecting rod attached from a D John Deere as a boat anchor for years.
Check valve on a dam overflow
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