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Kev18
04-12-2019, 02:06 AM
Id really like this book about lever actions but I cant remember what its called and iv'e been trying to find it forever on google. Its blue and maybe has silver writing on it for the title. Last time I checked one was for sale for 300$. Id really like one, but maybe not that much...

You know what I mean?

osteodoc08
04-12-2019, 07:31 AM
Perhaps more detail would be helpful. What does it cover (subject matter)? What era is it from? Author? Where did you see this book? Sale here? Amazon? Barnes and Noble?

sparky45
04-12-2019, 09:24 AM
Glen Davis authored a book on Single Shot Leverguns.

fordwannabe
04-12-2019, 10:01 AM
Sounds like Madis book on Marlin Firearms. Blue with silver writing and has lots of leverguns but not that expensive. Could be wrong.

northmn
04-12-2019, 10:07 AM
They have a couple of excellent magazines called Lever Action Rifles that I bought back when. They are now $30@ but were excellent magazines.

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Piedmont
04-12-2019, 10:08 AM
No it is something like The Winchester Lever Legacy and the author was Clyde "Snooky" Williamson or something very close to all this. It is a great read.

KCSO
04-12-2019, 10:35 AM
Sam Fadala did one on the 30-30's.

Kev18
04-12-2019, 11:37 AM
No it is something like The Winchester Lever Legacy and the author was Clyde "Snooky" Williamson or something very close to all this. It is a great read.

YES THATS IT! Thank you!

pietro
04-12-2019, 12:08 PM
Id really like this book about lever actions but I cant remember what its called and iv'e been trying to find it forever on google. Its blue and maybe has silver writing on it for the title. Last time I checked one was for sale for 300$. Id really like one, but maybe not that much...

You know what I mean?


Available on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Winchester-lever-legacy-Clyde-Williamson/dp/0962026719/ref=asc_df_0962026719/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=312734536225&hvpos=1o1&hvnetw=g&hvrand=13239539519118064381&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9002229&hvtargid=pla-570395421984&psc=1


https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/faQAAOSw8fpcmYeJ/s-l640.jpg

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Reverend Al
04-12-2019, 12:18 PM
A very good reference book that describes his attempts to duplicate factory ballistics with old, original Winchester calibres. I just had mine out to look up some info for a friend of mine. (And I paid over $100 for my copy over 12 years ago ...)

https://i.imgur.com/HrSMZ0j.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/0EAF4kY.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gkzBjgY.jpg

Kev18
04-12-2019, 06:58 PM
[QUOTE=Reverend Al;4623842]A very good reference book that describes his attempts to duplicate factory ballistics with old, original Winchester calibres. I just had mine out to look up some info for a friend of mine. (And I paid over $100 for my copy over 12 years ago ...)

Whats the contents of the books? I can order one now for 137$. Kinda expensive for me. Its for a used one.

pietro
04-12-2019, 09:25 PM
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Kevin, if you had bothered to click on the hyperlink I posted above, you'd have seen that Amazon lists 5 new copies starting @ $77, and 7 used copies starting @ $68

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Bazoo
04-12-2019, 09:31 PM
I'm going to have to put that one on the wish list. I have a copy of Sam Fadala's book, winchesters 30-30 model 94. It was good, but not as detailed on the history as I'd liked.

Kev18
04-13-2019, 12:39 AM
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Kevin, if you had bothered to click on the hyperlink I posted above, you'd have seen that Amazon lists 5 new copies starting @ $77, and 7 used copies starting @ $68

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I did bother... I said 100+ dollars but thats in Canadian. I know they sell for cheap in the US. 70+shipping is over 100 Canadian sadly.

pietro
04-13-2019, 10:01 AM
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My bad - I didn't realize you're in Canada.

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veeman
04-13-2019, 08:06 PM
I paid like $50 for mine on ebay a couple years ago. Had one before but it disappeared. odd. Snooky's book is a great read, he could have made a good living as a gun writer.

veeman
04-13-2019, 08:08 PM
there actually are a couple copies on ebay now.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Winchester-Lever-Legacy/202635697761?epid=5163655&hash=item2f2e075e61:g:faQAAOSw8fpcmYeJ
https://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Winchester-Lever-Legacy-Winchester-rifles-Winchester-carbines/372564713711?epid=5163655&hash=item56be9660ef:g:5UUAAOSwF1dUQN0z

indian joe
04-14-2019, 12:35 AM
No it is something like The Winchester Lever Legacy and the author was Clyde "Snooky" Williamson or something very close to all this. It is a great read.

THATS THE ONE !!! I looked at it a few months back - when Kev asked - I could not for the life of me drag the title or the writer out of my memory bank but I could see the blue and silver cover like it was yesterday.

Reverend Al
04-14-2019, 01:35 PM
[QUOTE=Reverend Al;4623842]A very good reference book that describes his attempts to duplicate factory ballistics with old, original Winchester calibres. I just had mine out to look up some info for a friend of mine. (And I paid over $100 for my copy over 12 years ago ...)

Whats the contents of the books? I can order one now for 137$. Kinda expensive for me. Its for a used one.

Again, the book covers the authors testing of many old traditional Winchester calibres. He worked up loads trying to duplicate the original factory ballistics so that his rifles would shoot on point of aim with the factory sights. Lots of interesting reading and I recommend that you buy a copy of the book.

You could try contacting the book seller that I dealt with when I bought my copy since he is here in Canada. John Simmer Gun Books @ 604-524-8446 or jsimmer@shaw.ca.

https://i.imgur.com/ga7nedI.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/ULkliZk.jpg

square butte
04-14-2019, 02:12 PM
Sad to see that 50-95 Winchester is not listed in the table of contents

Bazoo
04-14-2019, 02:21 PM
Looks like a must acquire book to me. Interesting he has 348 winchester listed under 1886 rifle.

Nueces
04-14-2019, 02:56 PM
Sad to see that 50-95 Winchester is not listed in the table of contents

A chief purpose of the book was reproduction of the old Winchester high velocity lever gun loads, so the author looked at nothing before the Browning designs. No 66, 73 or 76 calibers.

indian joe
04-14-2019, 05:16 PM
Thanks for posting that little snippet ----I almost bought it ----believe I would have been seriously disappointed without the earlier models .

cat-mechanic
04-14-2019, 10:14 PM
Looks like an awesome book. I'll have to add it to the reading collection someday.

Bazoo
04-14-2019, 10:31 PM
Boy I want it for all that juicy 30-30 info! I'm a 94/30-30 nut, and a 71/348 nut. And I'm borderline nutty bout the 95.

indian joe
04-14-2019, 10:51 PM
Boy I want it for all that juicy 30-30 info! I'm a 94/30-30 nut, and a 71/348 nut. And I'm borderline nutty bout the 95.

I'm just a lever gun nut (Winchesters) but my favourite is my 45/75 1876 -----

Bazoo
04-14-2019, 11:04 PM
I hear that! Something about leverguns. The look and feel of them.

Nueces
04-15-2019, 09:48 AM
The book is full of well told stories, maybe it's best feature. Each cartridge chapter is introduced with a hunting tale. Reading it carries much the same type of flavor as reading old Elmer Keith stuff. It's 'comfort reading' to a rifle man.

veeman
04-15-2019, 10:35 AM
I'm just a lever gun nut (Winchesters) but my favourite is my 45/75 1876 -----

Is your an original or repo? Mine is a Uberti 45/75 with the longer Uberti chamber. **** main spring keeps falling off, but otherwise a blast to shoot.

Kev18
04-15-2019, 01:03 PM
Do they speak about all the calibers? I like the Winchesters too but what about the odd ball calibers? I have an 1886 40-82 for example... Convince me guys and il buy it. Its in my cart I just need motivation to spend that amount on a book...

Reverend Al
04-15-2019, 02:15 PM
I felt that it was worth buying and found it to be interesting reading ... your call as to whether you buy it or not. You could try the bookseller over in New Westminster (BC) that I bought my copy from to see if he has any used copies available right now and at what price?

John Simmer Gun Books @ 604-524-8446 or email to jsimmer@shaw.ca

Nueces
04-15-2019, 02:41 PM
Do they speak about all the calibers? I like the Winchesters too but what about the odd ball calibers? I have an 1886 40-82 for example... Convince me guys and il buy it. Its in my cart I just need motivation to spend that amount on a book...

My copy was within arm's reach, so I checked. In addition to all the 'standard' rounds, the book has chapters for 40-65, 40-82, 38-56, 38-70, 50-110, 50-100-450, 40-70, 33 WCF, 450x348 AI (Ackley's version of the 450 Alaskan) and 348 AI in the 86 and 71. For the 92, 357 and 44 are added to the standard chamberings. The 94s include 25-35 AI, 219 Zipper and 375 Win. In the 95, there are the 405 and 35 WCF.

Snooky was a fan of Barnes bullets, so strong loads are listed for all calibers for which they were available, along with several cast bullet loads.

south.net
04-15-2019, 05:16 PM
Kev18,
I don't know how close you live to the border ,,, but,,, if you've got a friend below , ship it to them, have a nice drive and a lunch for you and your friend when you pick it up. Just like most "gun guys" always have a friend that's an FFL holder ,,,,,,,,,,, know what I mean ??
Just sayin'

indian joe
04-15-2019, 08:12 PM
Is your an original or repo? Mine is a Uberti 45/75 with the longer Uberti chamber. **** main spring keeps falling off, but otherwise a blast to shoot.

Uberti repro 45/75 - later model with the more normal chamber - mainspring fell off mine too - posted a fix for that on another forum - worked on mine - yours is an earlier gun, the spring might be bent different (sounds like it is) so this may not work - spend some time cycling it with the stock removed and figure the geometry - mine only fell out when I backed the strain screw out to get lighter trigger pull.

You dont need to remove much metal !!!
The groove across the top of the spring is a touch less than ten thou
The line drawing is rough but might explain easier

Extending the strain screw like some others recommend will fix it - trouble is that adds weight to the trigger pull - (added a lot of weight to mine)
I wasnt sure if my modification here would work when I did it but has worked a treat really.
(Did you and me done this already once? )
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veeman
04-15-2019, 11:00 PM
Ah, you'll be Greyhawk over there, I be KM. Got 2 new springs on the way from KTI.

indian joe
04-15-2019, 11:51 PM
Ah, you'll be Greyhawk over there, I be KM. Got 2 new springs on the way from KTI.

Drat ! now we gonna have to change our disguises :killingpc

If you got two spares coming - I would try thinning/weakening (wasp waist it) one towards the forward end, then can crank the strain screw in, it proly dont fall out anymore -mine stays put if I tighten that strain screw but the trigger pull is just awful from the extra spring tension.

Bazoo
04-16-2019, 05:20 PM
Man that does sound like a must acquire book.

Kev18
04-17-2019, 09:21 PM
I really want to get it. I have some grace usa screwdrivers I want to buy which are 65$ , and then this book which is alot more...

Kev18
05-04-2019, 03:23 PM
Well I just went to a gun show and bought a Winchester book. Still isnt the Lever Legacy but this one looks decent too.
There was this one and the silver edition. The guy said there wasnt to much difference between them.

https://i.imgur.com/sJ7EUkM.jpg

Bazoo
05-04-2019, 04:16 PM
I have RL Wilson's book, winchester an American Legend. It's pretty neat, mostly it focuses on the company history with just a little on each model. There are tons of photographs.

Reverend Al
05-05-2019, 12:45 PM
The Madis Winchester book is a good reference for all of the many variations of factory Winchester rifles (production numbers, dates by serial number, identifying features of the many Winchester variations, etc.) while the Williamson book is more of a reference for reloading vintage Winchester cartridges to try and duplicate factory ammunition ballistics of the time. Madis and Williamson were good friends. Both of them are great books that should be in the library of any Winchester enthusiast ...

Kev18
05-05-2019, 07:35 PM
The Madis Winchester book is a good reference for all of the many variations of factory Winchester rifles (production numbers, dates by serial number, identifying features of the many Winchester variations, etc.) while the Williamson book is more of a reference for reloading vintage Winchester cartridges to try and duplicate factory ammunition ballistics of the time. Madis and Williamson were good friends. Both of them are great books that should be in the library of any Winchester enthusiast ...

Il still try to get the other book. Iv'e been wanting one for awhile now.

ohiochuck
05-10-2019, 09:27 PM
Winchester lever legacy
Amazon shows 3 left in stock new for $81.00 and used from $ 68.00. It is an excellent Winchester lever action info with much load info
Jim

alamogunr
05-11-2019, 12:32 AM
Another source that I've used many times:

https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?sts=t&cm_sp=SearchF-_-home-_-Results&an=&tn=Winchester+Lever+Legacy&kn=&isbn=

Markopolo
05-11-2019, 01:12 AM
I see many copies listed on eBay.