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chuck40219
03-27-2019, 09:38 PM
Good evening everyone

Loading and gun:

45-70 black powder, shot out of a 1885, probably at or a little below 1200 fps. Have not run any over the chronograph yet, just looking at some charts.

I am looking for advice. And your thoughts why you suggest this mix.

lead type: ww, Lyman #2, 99% pure, or some mix that would be best for the above noted load and gun.

chuck40219

wills
03-27-2019, 09:51 PM
https://www.bpcr.net/site_docs-results_schedules/documents/bp_cartridge_reloading_dick_trenk.htm

mdatlanta
03-27-2019, 11:30 PM
https://www.bpcr.net/site_docs-results_schedules/documents/bp_cartridge_reloading_dick_trenk.htm

Wills, thanks for posting that link!

chuck40219
03-28-2019, 10:37 AM
A thanks from me also. Stayed up late reading most of it. Will finish later today.

chuck40219

Captain*Kirk
03-28-2019, 11:48 AM
https://www.bpcr.net/site_docs-results_schedules/documents/bp_cartridge_reloading_dick_trenk.htm

Excellent link! Thanks for sharing!

EDG
03-28-2019, 01:01 PM
To answer your question a little more directly:
You will find that the bullets for 1300 FPS and down does not require a hard alloy.
Clip on wheel weights used as is or with 1% tin added will be around 12 to 13 Brinell.
Another alloy is 20 parts pure lead plus 1 part tin added. This alloy is about 10 Brinell.
Either alloy is about right for your velocity. If you have a tough thumb nail it will barely cut wheel weight metal assuming reasonably strong fingers. Your thumb will cut a bit of a groove in 10 Brinell (20 to 1) alloy. Use which ever alloy you are happy casting with.
The key is: ease of casting good bullets.
I like to use the 20-1 alloy. It is easy to find pure lead and pure tin (I use 63/37 or 50-50 solder) so you can exactly duplicate the metal every time using one of the spreadsheets.

If you use a long pointy nose bullet you might need a 16 to 1 alloy. This is a little stronger alloy and it will prevent a long unsupported nose from slumping to one side when fired.
If you use a bullet with a short nose a softer alloy can be used if you can get it to cast well.
A softer alloy would be 25 to 1, 30 to 1 or even 40 to 1 (lead to tin). These last 3 alloys are cheaper due to less tin.


Good evening everyone

Loading and gun:

45-70 black powder, shot out of a 1885, probably at or a little below 1200 fps. Have not run any over the chronograph yet, just looking at some charts.

I am looking for advice. And your thoughts why you suggest this mix.

lead type: ww, Lyman #2, 99% pure, or some mix that would be best for the above noted load and gun.

chuck40219

chuck40219
04-01-2019, 09:23 AM
So much knowledge, so little time.

Thanks guys.

chuck40219

EDG
04-01-2019, 01:03 PM
Tons of cast bullet info at this site

http://www.lasc.us/ArticleIndex.htm

chuck40219
04-01-2019, 02:05 PM
Tons of cast bullet info at this site

http://www.lasc.us/ArticleIndex.htm

Been there. Soaking up all the knowledge my pea sized brain can.

chuck40219