Suggestions for a 10mm platform for cast

[Boolseye]

I'm researching the mighty 10 and would like input on the arms (hand variety) that
you all have found to work well with the ol' silver stream. Have glanced at the RIAs, The Glocks, and The Springfield XD as contenders. Open to suggestion, probably just a matter of time before I pull the trigger on one.
-BE

[WehrmannsGeweher]

The Ruger revolver is excellent. Among 10mm semis, the new GRAND stands out: 14 capacity, accurate, 2 stage 2 lb trigger and low perceived recoil due to the rotating bbl system.

[daloper]

First I will say that I don't have a 10mm so take it with a grain of salt. I do have a Rock Island Ultra in 45 ACP and I love that gun. I am thinking about getting one in 9mm to replace my Ruger P95.
Doug

[Burnt Fingers]

Witness P Match.

[mattw]

I have several 10's, S&W 610's, MegaStars, Steel frame Witnesses and the like. I always go back to the 610 and the MegaStar, both are a bugger to find now but both are outstanding 10mm platforms.

[onelight]

I only have experience with a Glock and Ruger 40/10 convertible both shoot really nice with HI-TEK coated bullets.

[nhithaca]

Agree with mattw; the S&W 610 will out shoot most of the generally available 10mm autos. Also have a Ruger Blackhawk convertible in 38/40-10mm made in the 1980s for Buckeye Sports and it too will shoot extremely well with lead or jacked. Both guns are more accurate than I am!

[marek313]

I'm not a big 1911 fan but I ended up getting great deal on RIA Tac Ultra in 10mm and I have to tell you I'm surprised at the quality of that firearm. Fully supported bull barrel with full steel frame makes it a great size and weight for 10mm. Very accurate with Lee 401-175-tc which many people use. My only two complaints are the finish which is not that great and easy to scratch and the guide rod that requires paper clip to break down the gun. Only a pain when you clean it but other then that its a great firearm.
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[bluelund79]

I have three 10’s. A G20, RIA 2011 full rail, and a GP100 5”. Of the three I own, I prefer the revolver. Between the semi-autos, being a 1911 guy, I’d say the Rock. The Glock grip doesn’t fit me well, but every handgun is personal preference.

[Outpost75]

Ruger Blackhawk. Then you can shoot heavy 10mm boolits like these:

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Compressed charge of 16 grains IMR4227 with the 250-grainer is "da Bomb"

[RJM52]

Own or have owned:
G40/4
G20/3
G29/3
Kimber Stainless Target II
RIA Combat Commander
PARA-USA Elite LS Hunter ([now the Remington Hunter]
Ruger GP-100


If you want something for the range and maybe hunting and don't want to spend a lot of money, Kimber has a new Stainless Target long slide 6" without the firingpin safety....Usually can be had for less than $900. Has gotten great reviews over on the 1911 Forums...

Bob

[cwlongshot]

Hello Bob! :-P

I have a few too. The 10MM is one of my favorite calibers...

I would have to say the most useful is my G29 and the prettiest is the GoldCup Delta in stainless Steel. I very much like and prefer KKM aftermarket barrels. But frankly prudent cleaning and the Factory Glock barrel is just fine for hard or PC boolets.

I have 4-5 Molds for them and just last week my wife surprised me with one I have wanted to buy for nearly a decade... A Brass, 4 cavity WFN 200 ish grains and this one has HP pins too!

Just Saturday, I cast a few hundred Lyman 200g TC bullets and Yesterday a couple hundred Lyman 180 RFN bullets. Both plain base.

CW

[Boolseye]

Good stuff, thanks all.


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[RJM52]

Just saw this one over on GunBroker...don't think it can get any less expensive than this for a brand new 1911 long slide......

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/805392801

[Walks]

I bought a New Colt Delta Elite when they first came out. I was waiting for the Glock, but the Colt popped up first. Fired 200 rds of Norma 200gr ammo. Beat that poor Gun to death. Sold it off and bought a Glock when they finally got out.

Shot the RCBS 40-180-RF in the beginning, then after a friends coaxing. I got a Lee 40-180-TC 2cav.

STILL didn't seem to help, leading was still a problem. So I sold it off. Kept the reloading gear for my early production Glock 23. Cast of Linotype the bullets shot pretty well, softer alloy, the accuracy went south.

When they came out, I bought a Wolf bbl. Made a BIG DIFFERENCE. The conventional rifling made a world of difference.

I figure with a Glock 40cal & an old Colt in .38-40 that I have that .40 caliber pretty well covered.

But if I were to by another 10mm today. It would be no contest.

It would be a Glock 10mm. I'd buy a Wolf or another Co. bbl with conventional rifling. And would load the RCBS #40-200-TC or a N.O.E. or Accurate equivalent bullet from one of their fine molds.

[Boolseye]

Thanks again for all of the responses. I’m gonna keep it on the back burner for now, it’s not an imminent thing (probably)
-BE

[osteodoc08]

I’ve had a delta elite but it went down the road as trade fodder for my P220 Hunter. Love my P220 Hunter. Also have a G20 gen 3 and a XDM 5.25” model.

[Boolseye]

My inclination is to just go with a g4 if I get a Glock. I like the fact that they come with 3 mags, almost makes up for the price difference. Also would probably add a Lone Wolf 6” barrel for shooting cast.

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[Ramjet-SS]

Hunting the Glock Model 40 with a 7” KKM barrel is as good as it gets for a handgun.

They shoot cast so well a 200 grain WFN over a dose of POWER PISTOL is accurate and potent as is the 180 grain XTP. I have fantastic results with the Hawk 200 grain jacketed FP on game. 7” bbl is fantastic for cast and when combined with the red dot slide mounted optic makes for an accurate combination.

[Boolseye]

Hunting the Glock Model 40 with a 7” KKM barrel is as good as it gets for a handgun.

They shoot cast so well a 200 grain WFN over a dose of POWER PISTOL is accurate and potent as is the 180 grain XTP. I have fantastic results with the Hawk 200 grain jacketed FP on game. 7” bbl is fantastic for cast and when combined with the red dot slide mounted optic makes for an accurate combination.
That almost seals it for me.

[Bigslug]

Springfield Operator would be my choice if I were shopping for a 10mm today. The extra weight from the rail will help with recoil, and Springfield's use of smaller-diameter, .38-Super-spec titanium firing pins with beefier rebound springs is a natural choice.

By the time you buy a Glock and swap the barrel, the price won't be that different, and you'll still have the very large Glock 10mm/.45 grip frame.

I dunno. I was a 10mm fan at it's introduction during the height of the now largely debunked "stopping power" debates. Now that I've seen what a cast .45ACP can do for penetration at standard GI speeds, and that I've learned to run a DA revolver with considerable skill, I don't really see what the 10 is doing that rounds 40+ years older aren't capable of doing as well. As I regard moon clips as a colossal PITA, the notion of the rimless round in a revolver generates a major "Huh?" from me. YMMV.:neutral:

[Boolseye]

It would be a decent whitetail round in my area, although there’s a 5 round mag limit for centerfire hunting here in VT. Would have to modify a Glock mag to hunt with it. Or 1911...not that anyone would ever even check or notice...


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[Drydock]

Try some of these https://www.ezmoonclip.com/ Make speed loads on my .45acp wheelguns a pleasure.

[saleen322]

We have 4 in 10mm; 2 revolvers and 2 pistols. The NOE 200 grain bullet works very well. In fact, it groups just over 2" @ 50 yards from the Ruger SRH. If we had to go to just one bullet that would be it.

[MajorDude]

The 10 mm is one of my favorite cartridges. In my opinion you can consider the 10mm a narrower, longer 200 gr .45 acp, so any platform you could shoot a 200 grain .45 acp in would be appropriate for the 10mm cartridge. You can find some combination of cast bullet and powder that will work in any of those choices, so it boils down to your own personal preference. Some folks are pushing the envelope of 10mm power, but if you are shooting cast, you are probably looking for 1,000 to 1,200 FPS loads. All the quality, full size modern handguns can take that.

Even though I’m a revolver guy, the advantage of the 10mm over the .45 acp, all other things being equal, is magazine capacity in semi autos. So my choice is a high cap semi auto as opposed to a revolver in 10mm. I have two of those, a 15 round gen 3 Glock 20SF with a Lone Wolf barrel and a 9 round Smith & Wesson 1006. If I was to only have one 10mm, based on my experience it would be the Glock with an aftermarket barrel with conventional rifling, either gen 3 or maybe 4.

[Ramjet-SS]

The 10 mm is one of my favorite cartridges. In my opinion you can consider the 10mm a narrower, longer 200 gr .45 acp, so any platform you could shoot a 200 grain .45 acp in would be appropriate for the 10mm cartridge. You can find some combination of cast bullet and powder that will work in any of those choices, so it boils down to your own personal preference. Some folks are pushing the envelope of 10mm power, but if you are shooting cast, you are probably looking for 1,000 to 1,200 FPS loads. All the quality, full size modern handguns can take that.

Even though I’m a revolver guy, the advantage of the 10mm over the .45 acp, all other things being equal, is magazine capacity in semi autos. So my choice is a high cap semi auto as opposed to a revolver in 10mm. I have two of those, a 15 round gen 3 Glock 20SF with a Lone Wolf barrel and a 9 round Smith & Wesson 1006. If I was to only have one 10mm, based on my experience it would be the Glock with an aftermarket barrel with conventional rifling, either gen 3 or maybe 4.

Want capacity look at the Springfield XDM in 10mm love mine it shoots fantastic and functions flawless which I require for any of my carry guns. For some reason the XD series of handguns just fit my hands really well being a 10 makes it even better...

[Ramjet-SS]

It would be a decent whitetail round in my area, although there’s a 5 round mag limit for centerfire hunting here in VT. Would have to modify a Glock mag to hunt with it. Or 1911...not that anyone would ever even check or notice...


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Easy enough put a block in a Glock mag use the Model 40 MOS with a KKM 7” barrel and you have one heck of great deer gun.

[Boolseye]

Yes, I had noticed that option. I think that would be a good direction, also for an accurate range gun w/ cast. Thanks for the reminder.

[ReloaderFred]

I've got several Witnesses, a S&W 1006, a S&W 610, a Colt Delta Elite and a new Springfield XDm all in 10mm. They've all had cast bullets shot through them with the exception of the XDm, since I just got it and haven't had much chance to put many rounds through it (less than 100). They all handle cast bullets just fine, but to tell you the truth, the Witnesses and 610 have shot cast the most, since I've had them the longest. They all show a preference for the Saeco 200 gr. RNFP bullet, producing the smallest groups with that bullet.

If I ever get caught up with projects, I intend to find out how well the XDm does with them, too.

Hope this helps.

Fred

[Boolseye]

Found 20 pieces of Hornady 10mm brass at the range today...seems the universe is talking to me. Might just have to *gasp* get another....the g40 is just so outrageous that I like it.

[megasupermagnum]

I never could understand why anyone would buy a Glock with intentions of shooting accurately at any extended range. They even say not to use cast bullets. Glocks are very reliable guns, but if you want more, you pay for it in aftermarket parts.

Instead of wasting money upgrading the Glock with a different barrel, better trigger, and decent sights, just buy a Sig P220 hunter.

They come with a barrel capable of top of the line cast bullet accuracy. They come with good triggers, and they come with very good sights. The only thing Sig got wrong was the ugly camo paint. Beyond that, the P220 hunter is the 10mm auto perfected.

[cwlongshot]

I never could understand why anyone would buy a Glock with intentions of shooting accurately at any extended range. They even say not to use cast bullets. Glocks are very reliable guns, but if you want more, you pay for it in aftermarket parts.

Instead of wasting money upgrading the Glock with a different barrel, better trigger, and decent sights, just buy a Sig P220 hunter.

They come with a barrel capable of top of the line cast bullet accuracy. They come with good triggers, and they come with very good sights. The only thing Sig got wrong was the ugly camo paint. Beyond that, the P220 hunter is the 10mm auto perfected.

Most often, its the shooter not the gun... Just like a driver can drive most any car and a Singer can sing most any song. A Good shooter, Is a GOOD SHOOTER because he/she can Shoot, Drive or Sing.

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G20 @ 50 yards

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G20 & 100 Yards

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G24 in 357SIG KKM bbl 25 Yards

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CW

[Boolseye]

That's some shootin', CW. I agree with your statement, as well.
I have found that I can shoot most platforms accurately by applying the fundamentals I learned in Bullseye and general marksmanship.

[onelight]

I never could understand why anyone would buy a Glock with intentions of shooting accurately at any extended range. They even say not to use cast bullets. Glocks are very reliable guns, but if you want more, you pay for it in aftermarket parts.

Instead of wasting money upgrading the Glock with a different barrel, better trigger, and decent sights, just buy a Sig P220 hunter.

They come with a barrel capable of top of the line cast bullet accuracy. They come with good triggers, and they come with very good sights. The only thing Sig got wkrong was the ugly camo paint. Beyond that, the P220 hunter is the 10mm auto perfected.
I have no Glocks any more and I have a couple of Sigs but to make a blanket statements to a bunch of folks who have success every day shooting cast even from factory barrels does not make THEM look silly.
You could probably buy a new Glock do all you said and still have enough money left to buy a little pistol to drop in your pocket.:-P before you hit the cost of a sig. hunter

[megasupermagnum]

A blanket statement may have been the wrong way to go, but there is no doubt you are handicapping yourself with cast bullets by buying a Glock. It's not that they can't shoot good, it's just that you have to pay for it in upgrades, or put in a lot of leg work. What cwlongshot has is pretty dang impressive, but that will only serve to disappoint the OP when his can't do the same.

If you like Glock, get a Glock. If not, there are guns that will shoot cast bullets better. The P220 hunter is the best of the best 10mm's IMO, but there are other good options if that's too rich for your blood. Ruger makes a 1911 with good sights and a good trigger for just a little more than the Glock 40. I'm guessing the OP is looking for a semi auto, but if revolvers are an option, the GP100 would be a good one.

[Boolseye]

As the OP, my only request right now to all concerned is that this thread not deteriorate into a head butting session between differing views. I appreciate ALL of your thoughts, and want to keep them coming. It’s options, that’s all. We’re lucky to have them. I have seen these things go downhill, and I’d rather save this thread before that happens.
The SIG is no doubt a beast. The Glocks have their appeal. Maybe I’ll get a 1911, maybe the fever will pass without a buy, but it’s all just part of the game. Thanks to all.

And for the record, I can hold my own with a handgun. I know exactly what I’m getting into ;-)
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[onelight]

I cant think of a time when you had so many choices in 10MM available to fit most any budget or style.
Let us know what you pick and how you like it.

[Boolseye]

Thanks, I appreciate it. Will do.


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[Ramjet-SS]

Thanks, I appreciate it. Will do.


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One of the most accurate 10mm I own is the model 40 MOS with a 7” KKM and a Trijicon red dot on the slide. It will hold 4” groups all day at 100 yards if I do my part.

[Boolseye]

Cool. How are the stock sights on that rig?


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[9.3X62AL]

I get by with the Glock 20 and 29 (both 3rd gen SFs) because those are about the only 10mm pistols that can currently come into my State. "When in Rome......" I haven't run any cast bullets through the 10mm Glocks (yet), and I think aftermarket barrels are in order......not because of cast bullets, but because the Gen 3 chambers and feedramps allow 10mm brass run at Win Silvertip pressures to "guppy out". If you are going to run a 180 grain bullet past 1150 FPS, both of my Glocks show brass distentions much like those seen in Gen 2 Glock 40 S&W pistols. A chamber with better support is indicated for better brass life. The slower-twisted and more conventional lands & grooves aftermarket barrels might be helpful as well.

The 10XX-series S&W pistols were beasts, capable of digesting Norma-level loads 3 meals a day (200 grain bullets @ 1200 FPS). Winchester STHPs feature 175 grain bullets at 1225-1250 FPS in the G-20, about 1150-1175 FPS in the G-29. Yes, they are a bit of a handful in that sub-compact pistol. Pearce base plates with the finger-hook help a lot. The G-20 is not docile, but easier to control. I think the Win STHP-level loads are about as much as either a Glock or 1911A1 platform needs to absorb full-time. It was the Norma-level loads that cracked the Delta Elites and other Colt 1911A1-based receivers. The Glocks are certified by the maker to be safe with any current factory-loaded cartridge, per their info. Not sure if that means some of the Buffalo Bore concoctions, or not. I don't think Norma imports their stalwart 10mm loads any longer. More's the pity.

I have shot thousands of rounds of 10mm since about 1985. I like the caliber a great deal. I wish I had been allowed to carry it at work. It is NOT a "magazine-fed 41 Magnum" as some fan-bois have called it, but it is a bit more than a 357 Magnum has to offer at SAAMI-specs between the calibers.

[Jeff Michel]

Unless your stuck on getting a pistol, don't overlook the Ruger Stainless Black Hawk with .40 S&W/10 mm cylinders. I think it was Outpost 75 made one in .40 and did an excellent write up regarding it's performance. Convincing enough for me to give one a try and I'm glad I did. I've ran over 500 rounds through it so far and it is an amazing performer. Given the chance, the 10 mm is likely going deer hunting come November.

[Ramjet-SS]

Cool. How are the stock sights on that rig?


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They are ok nice sight radius but even with that said I would change them out for an after market set.

By the way the MOS is really an easy gun to shoot it sucks up the recoil very well. With the 7” barrel I get nice velocities with the 200 grain WFN GC cast boolits. The chamber is tight so the brass is not over expanded and you can eek more velocity with the

[Boolseye]

What does MOS stand for, and do all the G40s have it?


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[onelight]

What does MOS stand for, and do all the G40s have it?


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Modular optic system , comes setup for reflex sight

[Ramjet-SS]

Yes they do it’s cover plate you do not have use it and can run open sights if you prefer.

I love my red dot makes that 7” Model 40 a 75-yard gun from steady rest.

[bigted]

My son got a XD 40 Springfield and my ribbing was nonstop. First off the mini 40 was a joke in my estimation and as for the PLASTIC gun thing ... my tank Colt 1911 in non other than 45 ACP was my choice with total comitment ... THEN

He owed me some money on a deal we did and he offered this 12 round horse flop as a fix for our dept deficiency. And I shot the gosh darned thing;

First off it actually fit my hand perfectly ... SHEESH

Secondly I found the ballance to be most exelent ... SHEESH again.

Loved the tridium sights and they aligned every time to my eye/hold.

Shooting it I ran 12 offhand every bit as good rite outta the gate as I ever did with my 1911.

All in all ... the Colt stay's in the pickup now. This crazy 40 S&W is a shooting dream. Thought I would stub this crazy auto up with cast boolits ... namely a Lee 175 gr boolit ... this plastic ugly pistol shoots them as well as I can hold and a lotza fun as they go where I want em to go.

Get the Springfield XD 40 5 inch and never look back. Mine is a keeper and shoots cast very accurately.

Can not go wrong for 4 to 5 hundred bucks

[Boolseye]

It’s available in 10mm too...thanks for the heads up. I have shot one of them in 9mm and it was the equal to
My SIG in terms of both accuracy and smoothness...so yeah, I hear you.
-jp


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[Lloyd Smale]

depends on what you want. Ive got a 20 and a 29 and they both run like a swiss watch but aren't exactly tack drivers. If self defense or plink was the main criteria the glocks are hard to beat. If your looking for competition or hunting accuracy id look at a 1911.

[cwlongshot]

While I dont disagree. (Both my Deltas could outshoot my stock Glcoks.) my G20 with a KKM 6” Bbl is NO LESS accurate than my Deltas and a WHOLE LOT more comfortable to shoot.

Plus I dont liek the top loads, back in the day many deltas had cracked frames from the heavy loads. My Blued Delta is a very low 4 didit sn. My Delta Gold Cup is a early 1990’s model.

As much as I like them all, If I had to have one, it would be a G29. I can run the FS mags with a XGrip its a G20 sized frame. A longer bbl can be had too. Mine shoots plenty accurate. I really only see acc degradation 50+ yards. Thats allot farther than vast majority of shooters would need to shoot. Also present company excluded, the gun is more accurate than most shooters.

CW

[Boolseye]

Appreciate all the feedback. Thinking about that xdm 5.25”...not quite there yet.

[onelight]

Appreciate all the feedback. Thinking about that xdm 5.25”...not quite there yet.
I have an xdm 3.8 and 5.25 in 40 they both shoot great and are totally reliable I’m one of the guys that likes the grip safety. The way I see it the only advantages the Glocks have is much better after market support and price.
If you have modifications in mind to suit your needs research before you buy.

[Boolseye]

It looks like it’s basically what I’m looking for in the existing package/traditional rifling, 5+” barrel, fully supported chamber. I already like the XDm platform. Adjustable sights.
I’m thinking it will be a decent cast gun., which is a must for me.

But yes, a bit more research.


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[RugerFan]

Appreciate all the feedback. Thinking about that xdm 5.25”...not quite there yet.

I just bought one (4.5") and really like it. I was leaning towards a Glock and then Bass Pro had go ahead and put the XDM on sale. After holding both, the XDM just fit my hand better and I liked the trigger, so it went home with me. Have only had it to the range a couple times so far, but am really impressed with the accuracy. It's a lot of fun!

[Ramjet-SS]

XDM is a really good cast gun mine loves the 200 Grain WFN GC cast. Feeds reliable and I load over Power Pistol. The more I shoot the XDM the more fond of it I become. I will also say in my Simply Rugged Holster it carries really nice.

[Boolseye]

XDm 5.25”. enough talk ;-).
Now to load some ammo...

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[Lloyd Smale]

agree with that. 20 is a bit clubby to fall in love with but youd never pry my 29 out of my hands.
While I dont disagree. (Both my Deltas could outshoot my stock Glcoks.) my G20 with a KKM 6” Bbl is NO LESS accurate than my Deltas and a WHOLE LOT more comfortable to shoot.

Plus I dont liek the top loads, back in the day many deltas had cracked frames from the heavy loads. My Blued Delta is a very low 4 didit sn. My Delta Gold Cup is a early 1990’s model.

As much as I like them all, If I had to have one, it would be a G29. I can run the FS mags with a XGrip its a G20 sized frame. A longer bbl can be had too. Mine shoots plenty accurate. I really only see acc degradation 50+ yards. Thats allot farther than vast majority of shooters would need to shoot. Also present company excluded, the gun is more accurate than most shooters.

CW

[MrWolf]

XDm 5.25”. enough talk ;-).
Now to load some ammo...

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I tried a Glock and just didn't feel right. The Xdm10 5.25" is perfect. Haven't shot cast through it yet but really fits my hand and eye nicely.

[tazman]

I do not own and have not fired a 10mm in any configuration. I do own both 9mm and 45acp XDm pistols and can wholeheartedly recommend them from both an accuracy and reliability perspective.
They just work.

[Boolseye]

Looking forward to it. I plan to load them modestly over .40, nothing crazy (well, maybe a couple :).


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[tazman]

Somewhere on the web(available on the Springfield site) is a 10,000 round test of the 10mm XDm using factory ammunition(Federal Personal defense hydra shock). It went through all the ammo without a single malfunction with three different men shooting it in a tag team type test.
Some have complained that the ammunition used wasn't hot enough to really test the gun. I think ten thousand rounds of factory ammo would certainly be a valid test.

[Boolseye]

That seems like a definitive test to me.
I read that they used 12 mags and did it in windy, sandy conditions.


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[725]

T/C Contender. -- :). Shoots great.

[root]

I've got a new run production Delta Elite and love it.

Just ordered a GP100 match grade in 10mm

Also ordered a 220 grn mountain mold for them.

I'm planning to replace my G17 with the GP100 in IDPA should be interesting to say the least going from a auto to a revolver.


A moon clip fed revolver is the fastest reload you will ever have with wheelgun.

I really really regret selling my S&W 1917 in 2004

Rich

[cwlongshot]

I've got a new run production Delta Elite and love it.

Just ordered a GP100 match grade in 10mm

Also ordered a 220 grn mountain mold for them.

I'm planning to replace my G17 with the GP100 in IDPA should be interesting to say the least going from a auto to a revolver.


A moon clip fed revolver is the fastest reload you will ever have with wheelgun.

I really really regret selling my S&W 1917 in 2004

Rich I want a GP in 10... Just cannot wrap my head around the nearly 1K asking price... No one is gonna justify this cost to me.

CW

[colt38sp]

Just ordered this guy and I am lovin every bit of it! Not quite as expensive as the match champion. Loves cast or jacketed.
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[cwlongshot]

Just ordered this guy and I am lovin every bit of it! Not quite as expensive as the match champion. Loves cast or jacketed.
240243
That isn't even catalogued... is it some dealers exclusive?

cW

[colt38sp]

Yes. It is a Lipsey's exclusive. They offer it in .327 fed mag, 357 mag, and 44 spl too. It fits wonderful in the hand.

[cwlongshot]

Yes. It is a Lipsey's exclusive. They offer it in .327 fed mag, 357 mag, and 44 spl too. It fits wonderful in the hand. Still only the MT is listed...

http://www.lipseys.com/itemfinder.aspx?mfg=Ruger&family=GP100+Series&model=GP100&type=Revolver&caliber=10mm

Must be a conspiracy...

CW

[megasupermagnum]

Just ordered this guy and I am lovin every bit of it! Not quite as expensive as the match champion. Loves cast or jacketed.
240243

Ruger and Lipseys got this revolver perfect. Sights, looks, grips, everthing. It's one of a very short list of guns I have that I have not changed a thing. 5" is perfect for carry, I can sit without hitting the seat like a 6". I've got the 327 federal, and I wish they would chamber this same model in 41 magnum. I only paid $650 or so, that's including shipping, FFL etc. If I were looking for a 10mm revolver, this would be the one to get.

[colt38sp]

Still only the MT is listed...

http://www.lipseys.com/itemfinder.aspx?mfg=Ruger&family=GP100+Series&model=GP100&type=Revolver&caliber=10mm

Must be a conspiracy...

CW

I am not sure why it doesn't populate in the search list but here it is.

http://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=RUGP104051

[colt38sp]

Ruger and Lipseys got this revolver perfect. Sights, looks, grips, everthing. It's one of a very short list of guns I have that I have not changed a thing. 5" is perfect for carry, I can sit without hitting the seat like a 6". I've got the 327 federal, and I wish they would chamber this same model in 41 magnum. I only paid $650 or so, that's including shipping, FFL etc. If I were looking for a 10mm revolver, this would be the one to get.


I agree with you 100%. I have to fight the urge to obtain the other chamberings as well. I would love to see one in 41 magnum!

[cwlongshot]

Thank you!!

[Idaho45guy]

Somewhere on the web(available on the Springfield site) is a 10,000 round test of the 10mm XDm using factory ammunition(Federal Personal defense hydra shock). It went through all the ammo without a single malfunction with three different men shooting it in a tag team type test.
Some have complained that the ammunition used wasn't hot enough to really test the gun. I think ten thousand rounds of factory ammo would certainly be a valid test.

To be fair, I received 6 boxes of that same ammo last summer and looked up the specs and it was basically the same FPS and energy as my woods carry .40 S&W loads.

So, the new XD 10mm basically underwent 10,000 rounds of warm .40 S&W testing...

But, I am a fan of the XD series of pistols and would have no qualms getting the 10mm versions despite the misleading testing they claimed.

Edited to add:

Looked up the specs and it pushes a 180gr bullet 1030 fps and provides 424 ft lbs of energy.

My .40 S&W load with 6.3 gr of Ramshot Silhouette and a 180gr XTP is going 1,032 fps. It's stout for a .40 S&W, but in a 10mm, it will do over 1,200 fps with 7.5gr.

[tazman]

Arguments can be made about the ammunition used, but the stuff they were using wasn't light target loads. Even 10,000 rounds of 40S&W would be enough to wear out many guns. Add to that there were no failures.
I still feel it was a definitive test.

[megasupermagnum]

Arguments can be made about the ammunition used, but the stuff they were using wasn't light target loads. Even 10,000 rounds of 40S&W would be enough to wear out many guns. Add to that there were no failures.
I still feel it was a definitive test.

Its a good test of the gun, but not of it's longevity with 10mm ammo. 180 grains at 1,030 fps is pretty weak. That's normal 40 s&w, or standard pressure 45 acp. That's target ammo in my book.

[root]

The GP100 10mm I got was just @ 800.00 in a local shop.

I looked at it two weeks ago told him to order me one and put money down on it last week.

I would not have bought it if I 1st didn't get to handle it ( that sold me) and the price was a 100 to 150 cheaper then on line MSRP from vendors.

Yes it's NIB LOL

I wanted one of the new S&W ones coming out but that is unjustifiable @ that price due to all the 10mm handguns now out.
That and I already have a very nice 629 44 mag Mnt gun. ( that was a grail gun for me)

I have 40 cal moon clips on the way just need to pick up some 10mm moon clips.

Plan on shooting the 40 short & weak in IDPA and using the 220's for hunting.

10mm makes a good reloading platform like the 44 and 357 due to the wide spread of loads.

Rich

Rich

[ReloaderFred]

There's no need to buy additional moon clips. The .40 S&W moon clips are the same as 10mm moon clips. I use them for both in my S&W 610 revolver.

Hope this helps.

Fred

[cwlongshot]

Fred actually there is a difference depending on the manufactuere.

Rugers has some problems with ignition w 40 in “10” clips. So a slightly thicker clip was made specifically for the 40.

I do believe that the “40” clips would/should work across the board.

Ut I understand what you mean dimensionally (san thickness) the dia and depth or the rim recess on 10&40 are same.

CW

[ReloaderFred]

I'm not familiar with the 10mm Ruger revolvers, though I do own a couple dozen other Rugers in other calibers. I have to admit my only experience with moon clip revolvers are with my S&W 610 (10mm) and S&W 625 (.45 acp). The 610 hasn't had any problems shooting both cartridges, .40 S&W and 10mm, using the Ranch Products moon clips, so my comment was based on that. I've never tried any of the other brands of moon clips, since those made by Steve have served me well.

I wonder if there is a difference in the firing pin lengths, or in the recoil shield to cylinder gap? To tell you the truth, I've never paid any attention, since both of my revolvers go bang every time I pull the trigger on a loaded round, so I never really thought about it.

Fred

[cwlongshot]

I dont have one myself. But when i was looking I saw three different videos (uTube) where guys has issue. One was the guy in Indiana (Military Arms channel) and he mentioned the company Im referring to who is making these “better” 40 clips.

https://youtu.be/zl9PycWc1sY

CW

[root]

These are what I ordered:

http://uniquetek.com/product/T1419-05

Should stop the misfires as I also read the GP100 had some problems with lite strikes on the 40 with the moon clips made for 10mm

Ordered 24 of them for IDPA might see if I can print some and see how they hold up.

Other option was to install a new hammer spring but that ruins the trigger pull from what I have read.

Pretty much everything I have read on the gun in the week between looking at it and ordered it was positive accept the 40 pill in the 10 clip light strikes.

My 1st GP handgun but I've had a few super black hawks in 44 with the 5.5 barrels and that was what I was going in to see about buying when I saw the GP 100 LOL

Now to go back and get the super BH in .44 with the 5.5 barrel!

Rich

[reddog81]

I am not sure why it doesn't populate in the search list but here it is.

http://www.lipseys.com/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=RUGP104051

If you look on gun.deals.com that blue 5" half lug is the cheapest of the 10mm Ruger revolvers. There are a couple of online retailers with it priced under $700. It's also the best looking on of the bunch in my opinion. I've been tempted to pull the trigger on that exact one a couple of times.

[bigted]

So my friend ... did you decide on the XD series? I really think you would be tickled with one. Mine shoots cast Lee 175's so good that when a flier happens I know it was me.

Tumble lubed with the Lee Allox they just feed and shoot very well every time. I polished the sear very carefully on mine and removed the disconnect for the mag so I can feel good about early mag changes knowing I can shoot the one in the pipe without the mag in if the need.

[Boolseye]

Thanks for the tips-I sure did, 5.25”. It will be along sometime next week. I have a few rounds loaded up to meet it, 155 and 165 grain cast over 10 gr. Accurate #7. I am definitely looking forward to it. The only mould I’m really missing would be a 200 gr. WFN, I have 4 moulds to work with at lesser weights.

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[root]

Thanks for the tips-I sure did, 5.25”. It will be along sometime next week. I have a few rounds loaded up to meet it, 155 and 165 grain cast over 10 gr. Accurate #7. I am definitely looking forward to it. The only mould I’m really missing would be a 200 gr. WFN, I have 4 moulds to work with at lesser weights.

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Congrats you are gonna really like the 10mm

I can see another one in my future probably some type of carbine now that I have a auto loader and revolver.

Rich

[osteodoc08]

You’re gonna love it. I love mine. Mine got a bit of exercise a few days ago at the range. It’s more re accurate than I am.

[Ramjet-SS]

Thanks for the tips-I sure did, 5.25”. It will be along sometime next week. I have a few rounds loaded up to meet it, 155 and 165 grain cast over 10 gr. Accurate #7. I am definitely looking forward to it. The only mould I’m really missing would be a 200 gr. WFN, I have 4 moulds to work with at lesser weights.

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Nice....

I think you are really going to like it. I ran 200 rounds through mine yesterday. Ran great. Fun to shoot. I purchased a Simply Rugged holster for mine and it can be carried on the hip strong side or cross draw and if you get the harness you can use the same holster for chest rig. This is my FAVORITE carry if I am wearing pack or carrying a long gun.

Yup I am 10 fanatic have a progressive press setup only for the 10mm......:-P

[Boolseye]

Wow. Just awesome.
Loves cast and just a beast.
Far exceeds my expectations.
(First outing and first shots with a ten)
I can provide more details if ya’ll are interested...

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[onelight]

Wow. Just awesome.
Loves cast and just a beast.
Far exceeds my expectations.
(First outing and first shots with a ten)
I can provide more details if ya’ll are interested...

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Congratulations on the new 5.25 , 10 they are sweet guns.

[Ramjet-SS]

Wow. Just awesome.
Loves cast and just a beast.
Far exceeds my expectations.
(First outing and first shots with a ten)
I can provide more details if ya’ll are interested...

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Fantastic

[Boolseye]

Thank you!


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[Tyguy95]

RIA all the way, I have the double stack match tac and have fed a variety of cast and jacketed with only a few ftf's most of which were human error

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[Boolseye]

If I had gone the 1911 route it probably would have been the RIA. I have one of their .45s and it’s great.


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[Jtarm]

These are what I ordered:

http://uniquetek.com/product/T1419-05

Should stop the misfires as I also read the GP100 had some problems with lite strikes on the 40 with the moon clips made for 10mm

Ordered 24 of them for IDPA might see if I can print some and see how they hold up.

Other option was to install a new hammer spring but that ruins the trigger pull from what I have read.

Pretty much everything I have read on the gun in the week between looking at it and ordered it was positive accept the 40 pill in the 10 clip light strikes.

My 1st GP handgun but I've had a few super black hawks in 44 with the 5.5 barrels and that was what I was going in to see about buying when I saw the GP 100 LOL

Now to go back and get the super BH in .44 with the 5.5 barrel!

Rich

The factory moons suck and really suck with .40s.

I bought the TK customs which required their mooner & de-mooner case those things are tight!

[root]

Good to know^^^^

I only got one batch of the uniquetek moons in the other two packs are on back order and were supposed to be here last week but haven't shown up yet.

I've yet to get out and try it yet as I need to load up more 10mm

Rich

[Side by Side]

STI perfect Ten, 2011 Platform, 6" Bbl, it's the perfect Pistol.

[Jtarm]

What I really want to see is an S&W L-frame 10mm to better fit my stubby fingers. I don’t see the purpose of a 610. In a large frame gun, may as well go .41/.44/.45.

I have the GP100 MC 10mm. It’s pretty nice. I had to swap the grips for factory rubber.

But double action, I still can’t shoot it as well as my beloved Smiths with their short, sweet actions.

A 10R (rimmed) round would be nice.

[tazman]

Here is your S&W revolver. https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/model-610-10mm-revolver-65
If it shoots as well as my 929 does it will be a real winner.